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Republican History Revealed

Posted on 07/23/2003 10:03:09 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit

In Back to Basics for the Republican Party author Michael Zak (FR's distinguished patriot, Grand Old Partisian) undertakes the heroic and herculean task of clearing the name of the Republican Party from the thicket of lies, distortions and misrepresentations which has been cultivated by the Democrat/media alliance. Since any partisian argument in today's America must begin with the refutation of chronic and consistent lies told about the GOP, Zak's book provides the necessary ammunition to do just that.

This well-written, interesting and enjoyable tour of GOP history can be of use to any patriot who wants to know the truth about the histories of the two major parties. It traces the origins of the GOP to the proto-Republican, Alexander Hamilton, and the Federalists and that of the Democrat Party to its ancestors Jefferson, Clinton and Burr. A brief survery of Federalist and Whig antecedents and policies is sketched to give historic context to events. Since the GOP was created and grew in opposition to the policies and failures of the Democrat Party to extend the benefits of the Constitution to all Americans, that party's history is also examined.

And a sorry history it is. A story of treachery, short-sightedness, racism and economic ignorance unfolds as we see the Democrats consistently for 170+ years fight against allowing the Blacks a chance to achieve full freedom and economic success. Opposition to that fight has defined the best of the GOP's actions. Every advance in Civil Rights for Blacks has come from GOP initiatives and against Democrat opposition. Every setback for Blacks achieving constitutional protection has come from Democrat intitiatives and against GOP opposition. Racists have led the Democrats during most of their history, in sharp contrast to Republicans. All the evils visited against Black are of Democrat design. Democrats created and maintained the KKK, the Jim Crow laws, the Black Codes, it was Democrats lynching Blacks, beating Blacks, exploiting Blacks and perpetrating murderous riots which killed Blacks in

Zak rescues the reputation of the party from the slanders thrown against it during the Civil War and Reconstruction, many of which are popular around FR. He also clearly shows the mistaken disavowal of GOP principles which brought the modern party to its lowest state and allowed the demagogues of Democrats to paint the party as "racist." This was because of the disastrous turn to States' Rights which grew from the Goldwater campaign. It was the final straw in the process which transformed the share of the Black vote from 90-95% GOP to 90% democrat. A modern tragedy of immense proportions.

This is a book which should be studied carefully by Republicans in order to counter the barrage of Lies trumpeted daily by the RAT/media. While it is a work of a partisian, Back to Basics does not hesitate to point to GOP mistakes, failures and incompetence in carrying out its mission nor does it neglect to give Democrats credit when credit is due for actions which are productive of good for our nation as a whole. Unfortunately, those are far too few.

In order to effectively plan for the future we must be fully aware of the past, Zak helps us achieve that awareness.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: Grand Old Partisan
In Back to Basics for the Republican Party author Michael Zak (FR's distinguished patriot, Grand Old Partisian) undertakes the heroic and herculean task of clearing the name of the Republican Party from the thicket of lies, distortions and misrepresentations which has been cultivated by the Democrat/media alliance.

Do you include anything about the republicans clamoring for disunion/secession from the South before the war? Anyhing at all where Garrison et al call the Constitution a compact with the devil? Or that it was a covenant with death and agreement with hell?

Just wondering.

101 posted on 07/23/2003 9:04:27 PM PDT by 4CJ (Dims, living proof that almost everywhere, villages are missing their idiot.)
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To: bourbon
Many thanks for your research. I had no idea the South's contribution was that high! Shameful to think those folks are protecting our country while some posters on FR take cheap shots at them.
102 posted on 07/23/2003 9:07:52 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Were it not for the votes of moderate Republicans such as Specter and Chafee, Bill Frist would not be Majority Leader. Your hatred for the Republican Party blinds to reality.

Were it not for the votes of RINOs such as Specter and Chafee, Bill Clinton's presidency may have ended around 1999. Your blind adoration for all people who claim the Republican title, leftists included, inhibits your ability to pursue a conservative agenda.

103 posted on 07/23/2003 10:14:53 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Grand Old Partisan
There were 40,000 white Tenneseans in the U.S. Army during the Civil War -- hardly a negigible number.

Yeah, cause Tennessee was on the border and had divided loyalties, though still a minority of unionists. Go deeper south though. Check Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and the Carolinas. Check Mississippi and Arkansas. Check the heart of dixie - at most you will find a few thousand, if not a few dozen. You claimed 100,000 soldiers served yet that number simply isn't supportable.

104 posted on 07/23/2003 10:20:12 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Grand Old Partisan
You claim to be an expert on precisely how many black troops were in the United States Army and Navy during the Civil War

I make no claims of expertise on those numbers. I simply looked up the easily accessable records of the United States Government and found that the grand total from ALL sections of the country is about 178,000. I also looked up the breakdown by state and the south makes up only about 50% of those, not the 200,000 number you frequently pull out of thin air and post as if it were fact.

yet give credence to absurdities such as black rebel soldiers.

Both confederate and union records indicate that there were as do many corroborated historical accounts. To deny that they existed or call their existence an "absurdity" is to fib about historical fact.

Further, while you count white rebels from the non-CSA states in the Confederate ranks as southerners

I don't believe I've made any specific claims of soldier counts for the south, CSA and non-CSA states included. Most historians put the grand total somewhere in the 800K to 1.2M range but due to lack of records on the confederate side precise numbers are difficult to know. As for the counts by state, it seems that the fairest way is to tabulate first by non-border and non-contested states. That generally means that the starting totals for both sides should exclude Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland where the populations split both ways. Excluding those three states, the northern ones went almost entirely northern and the southern ones went almost entirely southern.

you do not count blacks from non-CSA southerner states in the Unions ranks.

Uh, yes I do. There were about 178,000 blacks TOTAL from ALL states in the yankee ranks. Roughly one half of those were from the CSA proper. BOTH numbers are less than your absurd claim of 200,000, which not only exceeds by double the number of southern blacks in the union army but also exceed the TOTAL number of northern black troops from ALL states. It is therefore a false statistic.

To gain some credibility on this subject, read Lincoln's Loyalists by Richard N. Current.

No need to. I can just as easily look to the official records themselves and find that your numbers are wrong. If you desire credibility of your own I advise that you similarly look to those records. The yankee military records survived the war intact and are easy to tabulate. Add them up and you get about 178,000 blacks total.

105 posted on 07/23/2003 10:31:01 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: mac_truck
Last time I checked, Spector and Kolbe were not fillibustering GWBs judicial nominations, UNLIKE Mary Landrieu.

Last I checked Kolbe wasn't in the senate and therefore could not filibuster in the first place.

106 posted on 07/23/2003 10:42:12 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Maybe 300,000 Southerners sided with the yankees, while MILLIONS of Northerners sided with the Confederacy. That ought to tell you something.

Exactly, and Partisan's stats aren't even right. There were not even 200,000 blacks in the entire federal army, much less southern blacks. Yet do you think that stops him from posting that number incessantly?

107 posted on 07/23/2003 10:46:23 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
they are not the Reagan/Goldwater/Gingrich/Helms Republicans of a few years ago.

A few weeks ago The Economist made an editorial observation about the leaders of today's GOP. Under Reagan et al, the party advanced an ideology of "liberty" as realized by combatting the size of the state. Under Bush II, the party advances an ideology of "virtue" as realized by the exercise of power through the state. It's the best description of the difference between the two types of republicans that I have seen to date.

108 posted on 07/23/2003 10:55:05 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Grand Old Partisan
You vastly overestimate the number of southerners today who give a damn about Democrat traitors of the 1860s.

Last I checked, the confederate flag as an issue was on the winning side of statewide elections in three different southern states.

In Mississippi citizens overwhelmingly voted to keep it in their state flag. For the record, Mississippi consistently votes for the GOP presidential candidate and sends two republicans to the senate.

In South Carolina citizens threw out a Democrat governor who orchestrated a plot to remove the confederate flag from the capitol. For the record, South Carolina consistently votes for the GOP presidential candidate, has sent a Republican to the senate for almost half a century, and is about to replace its aging democrat segregationist leftover Fritz Hollings in 2004.

In Georgia citizens threw out a Democrat governor who removed confederate symbols from the state flag. Most analysts are in agreement that the unexpected GOP upset turned on the flag issue. For the record, Georgia is an up and coming Republican state that just elected a GOP governor and senator and also supported the Republican candidate for president.

That makes three states, Partisan, where Dixie has won and your PC mongering ilk has lost the popular vote. I have little doubt that were it put to a vote in any of the other CSA states similar results would follow.

It is not any of us who "overestimate" the politics of southerners around here. It is you who consistently underestimates them, just as Jim Hodges, Roy Barnes, Ronnie Musgrave, the DNC, the NAACP, the leftist media and everybody else who got it dead wrong in the Georgia, Mississippi, and South Carolina elections underestimated them.

As it stands right now you are 0 for 3 at the southern ballot box, yet you persist in telling those of us who live here that you know our electorates better than we do! Why is that, Partisan? What do you know about our electorate that we don't? And why, if what you say is true, has the exact opposite happened in three out of three elections where the confederate flag was a major issue? Many of us grew up here and have been involved in local politics for years if not decades. We know our states and we know their electorates. You do not.

You may know your own northern state's electorate and you may even succeed in predicting it. If you do, fine! I'm happy for you and happy that the GOP has one more voice in Maryland or Illinois or wherever you may be to help them guide that state in our direction. But don't think that what you know up there will work down here. Despite popular belief among those who reside there, yankeeland does not know everything. If you try to export what works up there to the south, if you try to run our campaigns and elections the way you run your own, if you give us candidates who reflect yankeeland values and not our own, and if you mess with Dixie, you will lose. You will continue to lose elections involving the flag just as you have lost all of them to date. And if you push us hard enough you will lose the votes that are not only beneficial but also now NECESSARY for a Republican to win the white house. The choice is yours.

109 posted on 07/23/2003 11:15:13 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Yes, the influence of the Radical Republicans did not become significant until after the war, as the northern electorate was outraged by the southern Democrats' treatment of blacks and white Unionists.


110 posted on 07/24/2003 1:21:21 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Some Republicans did indeed suggest disunion, but they were fringe characters by 1860. Garrison, the abolitionist zealot, had zilch political influence.

111 posted on 07/24/2003 1:24:41 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: GOPcapitalist
Again, see Lincoln's Loyalists, by Richard N. Current. There were, for examle, 35 regiments of white soldoiers with southern designations (e.g. 1oth U.S. Tennessee Infantry, 4th U.S. Arkansas Infantry, 2nd Florida Cavalry) and tens of thousands in other regiments).


112 posted on 07/24/2003 1:28:10 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: GOPcapitalist
There were at least 180,000 blacks in the U.S. Army and another 30,000 at least in the U.S. Navy -- and nearly all were from the South. You know very well that I say "fought for the United States Government," yet you choose to mislead others by just talking about the army.
113 posted on 07/24/2003 1:31:29 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The United States emerged from the Civil War a vastly different country. Supremacy of the federal government stood unchallenged.
114 posted on 07/24/2003 2:14:53 AM PDT by nolu chan
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Per the "supremacy clause" of the Constitution, the supremacy of the federal government is supposed to be unchallenged.
115 posted on 07/24/2003 2:34:11 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Per the "supremacy clause" of the Constitution, the supremacy of the federal government is supposed to be unchallenged.

No. Only in it's proper shere of enumerated/delegated powers. Only the Constitution & the laws PURSUANT to it are supreme. And the founders created a Supreme Court to handle such challeneges. The 9th & 10th reserve EVERYTHING not delegated to the federal behemouth nor prohibited to the states.

116 posted on 07/24/2003 4:46:30 AM PDT by 4CJ (Dims, living proof that almost everywhere, villages are missing their idiot.)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
This Constitution Federal Government, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
117 posted on 07/24/2003 5:02:48 AM PDT by nolu chan
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Anyhing at all where Garrison et al call the Constitution a compact with the devil? Or that it was a covenant with death and agreement with hell?

Garrison's name does not appear in the index.

There are 7 words quoted from Wendell Phillips on page 78. Leaving the old power structure in place, wrote abolitionist Wendell Phillips, "makes the negro's freedom a mere sham."

118 posted on 07/24/2003 5:17:37 AM PDT by nolu chan
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Denigrating the South" means pointing out that the Confederacy was a tyranny thru and thru and that it never believed those truths expressed in the Declaration of Independence such as all men are created equal.

North and South did not really believe those truths expressed in the Declaration of Independence such as all men are created equal. In most states, women were prohibited from owning real property. The 19th Amendment giving women the right to vote became law in 1920.

They did not mean that all men were equal, and all were superior to women did they?

119 posted on 07/24/2003 6:17:39 AM PDT by nolu chan
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To: nolu chan
While there were plenty of warts on the Yankees at least their society was not completely structured around an abomination that was the antithesis of the Declaration's beliefs.

Actually, this book has interesting summary of the role of the GOP in bringing voting rights to women. Almost all the most prominent figures in that fight were Republicans and the states which allowed women to vote prior to the amendment were Republican. Almost all the DemocRATS were opposed.

Americans generally believed all white men were superior to all women until fairly recently but other generalizations get fuzzy though it could be concluded that they believed everyone was superior to Black women.
120 posted on 07/24/2003 6:41:24 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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