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Land of the Free?
USA News and Views ^ | 07/23/03 | Paul Walfield

Posted on 07/23/2003 5:53:35 AM PDT by political_chick

Apparently having a sleeping kitten next to you in a subway station is a serious enough offense in New York City to get you put in jail. “Melendez and Gizmo spent 40 hours in separate city lockups before a loving reunion on Wednesday afternoon

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cat; crime; jail; newyork; stateofmind; zerotolerance

1 posted on 07/23/2003 5:53:35 AM PDT by political_chick
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To: political_chick
bump for afters
2 posted on 07/23/2003 5:58:52 AM PDT by prisoner6 ( Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: prisoner6
Yesterday's NY Post exposes why it took so long. The man was so uncooperative, it took the NYPD 11 hrs just to fingerprint him. He is a felon with many aliases among other things.

He is not a poster child for an unjust system.

3 posted on 07/23/2003 6:05:08 AM PDT by correctthought
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To: correctthought
... and the reason the authorities wanted to fingerprint him in the first place was ... having a kitten in a subway station, as the title implies?
4 posted on 07/23/2003 6:29:49 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: coloradan
Hey you're right, didn't think this one through. I just let my dislike of subway bums banging away on plastic containers get the best of me. It just adds atmosphere on a hot, dank and crowded platform.
5 posted on 07/23/2003 6:50:28 AM PDT by correctthought
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To: political_chick
What's the point of not posting the whole article? The source has no affiliation with the LAT or WP.


Land of the Free?

When just about anyone thinks of high crime and dirty streets, New York City seems to be among the first places to come to mind. It is actually a bad rap, but nevertheless, a common conclusion. Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani is credited with cleaning up the streets of NYC, and significantly reducing crime in the Big Apple by enforcing a “zero tolerance” policy. However, it is just recently that the true meaning of “zero tolerance” has surfaced.

Reuters News Service in a July 20, 2003, article reported that a musician named Angel Melendez was plying his trade on a couple of plastic drums in Manhattan’s Fourteenth Street subway station, ostensibly in the hope of receiving tips for serenading New York’s subway passengers. While he was busy tapping away, his kitten “Gizmo,” was sound asleep nearby.

Along comes New York’s finest, and Angel and Gizmo are led away to the hoosegow. New York has a law that any pet in the subway system must be “enclosed” in a container. Little Gizmo was asleep “on top of an upside down bucket,” and according to the arresting officer’s criminal complaint; people are “not allowed to possess a cat not enclosed in a container inside a subway facility.” Apparently having a sleeping kitten next to you in a subway station is a serious enough offense in New York City to get you put in jail. “Melendez and Gizmo spent 40 hours in separate city lockups before a loving reunion on Wednesday afternoon.”

Melendez it seems understood the law in question, but wanted to have his little friend with him anyway, “She's like my baby. I didn't want to leave her alone at home.”

In the same Reuter’s article, it was reported that New York “officials fined a man for sitting on a milk crate and ticketed a woman for talking loudly to her neighbor.”

WorldNet Daily ran an article on July 19, 2003, about a 21-year-old man named Stephen Lamarch who was on his way to work on a New York City train at about 2:30 in the morning. Stephen has a job at Rockefeller Center as a grounds keeper and he starts work at 4:00am.

The train car Stephen was riding in was empty but for one other passenger, which is not unusual for a train car traveling at 2:30am, even in New York City. Steven is only five-foot-six inches tall and was not expecting a rush of people to be entering the car any time soon, so he thought he would stretch out a bit. He put his feet up on the seat next to his.

Along come New York’s finest. Stephen, according to WorldNet Daily was told by the officers, “'NYPD. You're coming with us.” Stephen was then “grilled” by the officers for fifteen minutes and given a summons which read, “Did observe respondent laying across three seats.” Though, Stephen is adamant that he only used two seats, it doesn’t matter anyway. New York has a law that says one seat per person and no more.

Because of the delay, Stephen was late for work, so in addition to his fine, Stephen was also docked an hour’s pay.

There are a number of other equally horrendous stories reported in other sources but suffice it to say, NYC seems to have gone off the deep end in their search for more revenue. Though, NYC does claim that there has been a “14.5 percent decline in major crimes in the transit system in 2003,” and they credit that decline to the enforcement of “zero tolerance.” It sounds good, but it is still hard to accept the idea that if you incarcerate a musician for having a sleeping kitten next to him, overall murders and rapes in NYC will be reduced.

More to the point, shouldn’t we all be a little more concerned when city officials anywhere are advocating the incarceration and fining of its otherwise decent citizens, in the hopes of preventing violent criminal activity within their jurisdiction? In other words, aren’t the NYC folks at the same time making convicts out of ordinary citizens, and creating huge problems for adjacent jurisdictions?

It doesn’t take a criminologist to figure out that the people who commit violent crimes would, if the city’s explanation is correct, find new haunts. That may be good news for the NYC politicians, but not so good news for the residents of cities and towns that become the new homes for the displaced NYC criminals.

While it may be intuitive to also claim victory for NYC’s population, it may not be. This may be the day and age of mandatory seat belts when you drive, helmets when you ride a bicycle, and no smoking in a restaurant or even an office building, it still doesn’t sit well to think that any infraction, no matter how small will be met by rigid police persons and a rigid justice system. Do we all want to sacrifice a few good people in an effort to drive out some bad? What does that make the people who advocate that policy?

We all need to remember that we are humans, and that’s what made America the best place to live in the world. We have always looked at each person and each situation as unique, and we always involved our hearts in spite of the concept that justice is blind. It is one of the things that make Americans proud to be Americans. Jury nullification, the right of jurors to find a defendant not-guilty in spite of a judge's instructions and the law.

Our Founding Fathers knew what state tyranny was and what Alexander Hamilton said more than two hundred years ago is as true today as it was then, “Jurors should acquit, even against the judge's instruction... if exercising their judgment with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction the charge of the court is wrong.”

Even Mr. Giuliani is quoted as saying in the UK Guardian newspaper in describing his policy, “It really isn't zero tolerance. It's concentrated on small areas of crime so you reduce the number of murders and robberies.” It seems New York has distorted the goal, and expanded the technique. Billy Joel sings a song called, “A New York State of Mind;” if the trend continues and expands, we will all know too well what that “state of mind,” entails.




6 posted on 07/23/2003 6:51:24 AM PDT by William Terrell (People can exist without government but government can't exist without people)
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To: coloradan
Smoking catnip again? ;<)
7 posted on 07/23/2003 6:55:04 AM PDT by verity
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To: correctthought
You are correct, sir...from the article:

"Melendez it seems understood the law in question, but wanted to have his little friend with him anyway, "


So, if the law in question was 'smoking crack' and Melendez decided to light up, would this even be news? No.

It's the law. It may suck and be completely stupid, but that doesn't give you a green-light to break it.
8 posted on 07/23/2003 7:17:23 AM PDT by Blzbba
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To: William Terrell
Perhaps you know more about this stuff than I do as you posted(Published) the copyrighted article. I was of the opinion that people copyright their articles so that they are only published with their permission.

Am I wrong?

Thanks
Political Chick
9 posted on 07/23/2003 7:53:16 AM PDT by political_chick
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To: political_chick
The owner of the forum says he would like full text of articles be posted, except those from LAT and WP and affiliates. The issue is fair use. It's also the fact that articles posted on news sites vanish afer a few days, making the link to them useless.

Besides that and subordinate to it, the article itself has a link to email it to anyone the reader might want to read it, without visiting the article site. The source of the article can not expect it to be emailed to any less people than would read it on FR, thereby modifying the force of any copyright.

10 posted on 07/23/2003 8:08:12 AM PDT by William Terrell (People can exist without government but government can't exist without people)
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To: Blzbba
It's the law. It may suck and be completely stupid, but that doesn't give you a green-light to break it.

Did you read this:

Even Mr. Giuliani is quoted as saying in the UK Guardian newspaper in describing his policy, “It really isn't zero tolerance. It's concentrated on small areas of crime so you reduce the number of murders and robberies.”

What Guiliani seems to understand and you don't is that no law is, can be or is meant to be an absolute. Bloomberg got one right recently when he said, "The police have discretion." And the DAs and the courts have discretion as well. It's the American way.

11 posted on 07/23/2003 8:31:27 AM PDT by decimon
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To: political_chick
Police Jail Drummer and His Cat
Fri July 18, 2003 08:54 AM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York City transit police prowling the subway for scofflaws jailed a month-old kitten this week.
"Gizmo," a black and white kitten, and its owner, Angel Melendez, were placed in a city lockup early on Tuesday after an officer cited the 35-year-old subway musician for having an uncaged animal inside the subway system.

The incident was the latest example of what critics say is a ticketing blitz designed to help the cash-strapped city. Recently, officials fined a man for sitting on a milk crate and ticketed a woman for talking loudly to her neighbor.

Officials deny increased ticketing and statistics show the number of summonses has not risen.

Melendez was playing plastic drums in Manhattan's 14th Street station when police issued him a summons for having the kitten on a bucket next to him, lawyer David Kapner said. The kitten was sound asleep.

According to the criminal complaint, the arresting officer wrote he "observed the defendant in close proximity to a cat, which was on top of an upside down bucket, not enclosed in a container ... the defendant knew he was not allowed to possess a cat not enclosed in a container inside a subway facility."

Melendez and Gizmo spent 40 hours in separate city lockups before a loving reunion on Wednesday afternoon.

"She's like my baby. I didn't want to leave her alone at home," Melendez said.

A Manhattan criminal court judge on Wednesday sentenced Melendez to time served.


From: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=HU5H1BKVBL0TGCRBAELCFFA?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=3115524
12 posted on 07/23/2003 10:12:58 AM PDT by coloradan
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