[Enemy Of The State]

[Jeremiah Jr]

Daniel 11:2

[Ff--150]

remember...the symbol of the dragon and what it represents is very powerful in this nation of 1.3 billion.

[Always Right]

The tycoon class has expanded so substantially that the American business magazine Forbes produces an annual list of China's 100 richest.

If China were a pure communist state there would be no 'tycoon class'. The only reason China is having success is it has let some degree of capitalism in and it has elimated some of its socialsitic ways. Unfortunately China still is run by a brutal totalitarian regime.

[raybbr]

Having started by making cheap goods, Chinese firms are moving on to more profitable ones as their country's membership of the WTO guarantees them access to world markets.

Nobody here cares. They only want cheap goods regardless of the effect to our economy.

BTW. Do any of you free-traders wonder what our economy would be like if, instead of a 500 billion dollar deficit with China, we had a 500 billion dollar surplus, or, at least even trade?

[Leisler]

Iran was booming when the Sha fell.

I don't trust Chinese government stats, or even non Chinese stats as they are based up guesses or the again suspect government.

All this wealth is going to end up, if not already, in the insiders hands.

You can not have this type of growth without great internal political tensions. The domestic political swamp is ripe for civil strife.

Lastly, Chinese finances are opeque, at best, so know one really knows their health, or sickness. Of course you could always go into a Chinese civil court...( insert lauging here )

[Rebelbase]

The rise in wealth and social status of the city masses direclty conflicts with the poverty and age old social structure of the rural areas of China.

Becuase travel can be restricted, I beleive there will always be a "serf" class in the rural areas and...unlike America where technology has made farming more productive with less labor allowing rural masses to escape to suburan lives.

This gap between the impoverished and the wealthy class will only grow larger with time. What happens when this gap reaches critical mass is going to be interesting to say the least.

[Savage Beast]

Poor Jacques Chirac. Don't tell him about all this. He can't handle any more shattered illusions.

[RonHolzwarth]

re: "In Shanghai, a new business district has gone up on marshland and gleaming blocks of flats line the eight-lane roads into the city. A German magnetic-levitation train whisks passengers in from Shanghai's new Pudong airport at 402kph, and a Japanese bullet train is likely to link the city to Beijing.

The Three Gorges dam, with its enormous hydro-electric potential, has gone into operation, and there are plans for a mammoth waterway across the country to check the recurrent pattern of droughts and floods."


Isn't there supposed to be some BIG PROBLEM with the Three Gorges dam??? Like, when it breaks, Shanghai will be flooded, and GONE? This will be the biggest man made disaster in history, so far. Millions are likely to die.

That project will quite likely cause severe hardships for the Chinese people, it was built mostly as an assertion of the central government's authority after Tianiman square.

Anyway, there is one thing that is FOR SURE! China is over 5,000 years old, many political systems all over the world have come and gone, and China is still there.

China will certinly outlive communism. I am SURE of that!

[Little Ray]

I'd say China already IS a super power.
They can't project their power very well (we could make the People's Liberation Army Navy disappear almost without a ripple... their Air Force would be a tougher project, but I bet we could take 'em, too) but nobody could win a land war with the PLA - there is just too many of 'em and they are suprisingly well equipped!
It will be interesting to see how the "Great Game" plays out in Far East. I hope Japan starts becoming more belligerent, soon!

[sergeantdave]

The Chinese Supermen, who have created all the many inventions we enjoy today, including...uh, ummmm, uh...

The Chinese Supermen, who have invented and deployed the many awesome weapons for their armed forces, including,,,er, ah, hmmmmm...

The Chinese Supermen, whose brilliant scientists have created the folowing wonder drugs, including...uhh, um, er...

[Cacique]

All no doubdt with the help of our corporations that export our technology and jobs to them. Let us not forget a bit of history, that GM and Ford truck factories in Germany supplied the Wermacht in WW II. PING

If you would like to be removed from my job export ping list FReepmail me. If you'd like to be on it FReepmail me too.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

"China has put on its best face for the world, particularly since it realized the benefits to be gained from Sept. 11. Blair and the other leaders beating a path to Beijing should realize, however, that, useful as foreigners are, China has never set much store by them. THE ROUND-EYES CAN PROVIDE TECHNOLOGY AND MONEY, BUT THE COUNTRY WILL GO ITS OWN PATH, making temporary alliances that suit it while increasingly using its clout as it chooses, in its bid to displace Japan as Asia's economic and political motor."

[Quix]

Didn't yet make it through every paragraph but it seems rather accurate to me.

Thanks.

[Helms]

China: ANOTHER COUNTRY WHICH WILL TRY MISCHIEF
AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR WORLD PREDICAMENT.

[Paulus Invictus]

It all boils down to the great support from Wal-Mart, et aluis, for buying Chicom-made junk, bought in quantities by American brain-dead buyers.

The fact of the $80 Billion trade deficit with China does not seem to penetrate American numb skulls as a threat. The Chicoms have already developed advanced missiles tipped with multi-targeted H bombs and the delivery systems to turn the US into dust (all no thanks to the Felon and his evil crew).

[Travis McGee]

China ping.