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To: deedgirl
It is truly a waste of the President's time. They will never vote for him nomatter what's he does for this race.

So by extension, am I wasting my time trying to spread the message?

6 posted on 07/23/2003 3:27:49 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
It is truly a waste of the President's time. They will never vote for him nomatter what's he does for this race. So by extension, am I wasting my time trying to spread the message?

I, for one, strongly disagree... It'll take time to reinforce the message that our party is not one of hate, taking medicine from older people, dragging people through the streets... Decades of lib lies are not going to be rectified right away, it takes lots of time and effort. We need to think long-term, and we need to include Afr-Americans and Hispanics in our ranks, or we'll become the dinosaur party.

I've said if before and I'll say it again, education, harping on the facts, blasting the lib lies... We need to do this again and again until the message starts to get out there.

14 posted on 07/23/2003 6:08:59 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: mhking
Don't sweat it, big bruh. Let us keep doing what we have to do. I don't even challenge folks about this anymore because I already know that we're always outnumbered and always outgunned.

Some of those guns come from our own side. It's sad, but now completely expected.


Cooler than a fan.

15 posted on 07/23/2003 6:36:22 AM PDT by rdb3 (Nerve-racking since 0413hrs on XII-XXII-MCMLXXI)
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To: mhking
I posted this on a thread datesd 6/27/03... Interestingly enough, no one could respond to it, not even the ones asking the questions...

Write them off. Today. It is a waste of time and political capital to ever think that they will leave the plantation. And, why should we waste said time and capital on only 8% of the vote, anyway?

I've got to play devil's advocate here... The Jewish vote is about 2% of the population, and they vote over 60% "socialist" (your terminology), about 24% Republican. To put it in comparible terms (to African American terms), it translates to the same exact number of votes. To make it even more controversial, most of the Jewish votes are concentrated in some of the most non-contested states (NY, Cali, NJ) that go Democrat anyway, and Florida which is pivotal... Black votes are much more scattered throughout the country, and many states could flip by a 1% margin (see the 2000 vote)... Given the fact that in absolute terms, we receive the same exact number of votes from both of these voting groups, would you ever advocate not caring about the Jewish vote, and writing that off? Every voting constituency counts, as long as we don't go off the deep end and lean left to gather votes.

Although, please answer the question: why is GWB courting that vote?

It's the margins... There are several states that could potentially be tos-ups, especially when you factor in the democratic "cheat" factor... I genuinely believe that a great deal of the population has been conned by 50 years of liberal brainwashing- that they're the only party that cares about the minorities and the common man, while the reality is that they want the minorities to be embolden to them, relying on them for government gifts. I truly want the Republican party to become dominant for decades. The best way to do that is to continue to educate, pound the message over and over, that the Republican party cares about the average person... Over time, several members of the democratic party will switch over... Think about it... In a few years, the hispanic and African American votes will surpass the white vote... If we don't reach out to try and obtain their support, even if it's babysteps, our future looks bleak. While I would never espouse changing our platform wholesale, I'd have no problem continuing to reach out to communites that are not typically considered Republican. Consider the future demographics.

18 posted on 07/23/2003 7:21:07 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: mhking
What is your message? Sorry I'm not a mind reader,and I do not get your point at all.
52 posted on 07/24/2003 12:48:51 AM PDT by deedgirl
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To: mhking
So by extension, am I wasting my time trying to spread the message?

Of course not. The girl's statement was stupid. Speaking the truth to anyone is never a waste of time.

64 posted on 07/24/2003 5:45:50 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: mhking
No, you are not. The Black Americans who turn to President Bush and the Republican Party are those who learn that success goes to those who work for it and not for those who sit on their butts and wait for it to be handed to them.

The RATS will always get the votes of the minorities who expect the free ride. They are the ones the "workers" leave behind in the ghetto when they move out and up.

90 posted on 07/25/2003 10:16:25 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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