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President makes overtures to blacks
Washington Times ^ | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 | By Bill Sammon

Posted on 07/22/2003 10:46:34 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:05:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush's upcoming meeting with the Urban League, coupled with his snubbing of more-militant black groups, mirrors his outreach to moderate Palestinians while ignoring Yasser Arafat.

In both cases, Mr. Bush hopes to turn nearly hopeless relationships into constructive dialogues with groups not known for their fondness of conservatives.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; blackvote; donnabrazile; gwb2004; naacp; outreach; urbanleague
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Wednesday, July 23, 2003

Quote of the Day by rintense

1 posted on 07/22/2003 10:46:34 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Anyone who litens at all to any black radio or tv talk shows knows that Bush hasn't a chance in hell of picking up any more black votes than he did in 2000.
Yet he has to make these overtures for the sake of the white"moderates"who want him to at least go through the motions.
2 posted on 07/22/2003 11:13:05 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610
It is truly a waste of the President's time. They will never vote for him nomatter what's he does for this race.
3 posted on 07/23/2003 12:17:00 AM PDT by deedgirl
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To: JohnHuang2
My take on making inroads into the black vote is that we need to create a comprehensive strategy and then execute it rapidly. I hate to use the comparison, but it's almost like storming a beach. The problem with trying to make incremental efforts is that we show up for a day but Democrats have them for the month. Whatever we say gets dispelled through black TV, radio, casual discussions, etc. We need to address black churches, black radio, black magazines, black TV and other influencers of public opinion within the black community. We need to have Alan Keyes challenge Jesse Jackson to debates in the Apollo. We need to put Democrats on the defensive and have them testify before the black community how exactly they've made life better for them? Why are the ghettos as bad today or worse than they wore 30 years ago? We need to be willing to get in there and slug it out- and I think Keyes is the guy.
4 posted on 07/23/2003 1:09:46 AM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: JohnHuang2
Even if Mr. Bush came out in favor of reparations and gave blacks the moon they still would vote dim.
Is it brainwashing or just that they have bought the line the dims use that they aren't capeable of taking care of themselves? Theyt need handouts from the govt to survive?
They need quotas to compete?
5 posted on 07/23/2003 3:20:02 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: deedgirl
It is truly a waste of the President's time. They will never vote for him nomatter what's he does for this race.

So by extension, am I wasting my time trying to spread the message?

6 posted on 07/23/2003 3:27:49 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Riverman94610
Yet he has to make these overtures for the sake of the white"moderates"who want him to at least go through the motions.

So you write off every and anyone who might be thinking of leaving the Plantation? That makes sense?

7 posted on 07/23/2003 3:29:12 AM PDT by mhking
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

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8 posted on 07/23/2003 3:30:34 AM PDT by mhking
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To: deedgirl
It is truly a waste of the President's time. They will never vote for him nomatter what's he does for this race.

It's only a waste of time if the Conservatives let the left continue to preach the gospel of "poor black souls, lost without the gummint handout, the affirmative action, the guiding hand of the Democratic white massah."

The average black person is no more or less capable of making an informed decision than anyone else...they just need the WHOLE story in order to make that decision.

9 posted on 07/23/2003 4:51:55 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Exercise your right to vote, or they'll take that one too!)
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To: Joe Boucher; mhking
Even if Mr. Bush came out in favor of reparations and gave blacks the moon they still would vote dim.

I really think that the Republicans are becoming more appealing to our black citizens. With people like J.C. Watts, Michael King, Alan Keyes, Ken Hamblin and others, I think many people are now understanding that the democrats aren't doing blacks (or other minorities) any favors.

I think we should continue to support the black conservatives. They are the only ones really pushing for equal opportunity. All the democrats are doing is propagating racism.

I look forward to the day when people are people and not identified by the color of their skin. I think conservatives have this goal in mind.

10 posted on 07/23/2003 5:26:55 AM PDT by Pest
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To: JohnHuang2
Is it just me, or does Donna Brazile sound almost reasonable in this article?
11 posted on 07/23/2003 5:36:15 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: TontoKowalski
Is it just me, or does Donna Brazile sound almost reasonable in this article?

It's just you. Donna Brazile couldn't be reasonable, even on Judgement Day.

12 posted on 07/23/2003 6:02:38 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
OK, I can accept that criticism. How's this revision:

Is it just me, or does Donna Brazile sound not too drunk in this article?

13 posted on 07/23/2003 6:05:49 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: mhking
It is truly a waste of the President's time. They will never vote for him nomatter what's he does for this race. So by extension, am I wasting my time trying to spread the message?

I, for one, strongly disagree... It'll take time to reinforce the message that our party is not one of hate, taking medicine from older people, dragging people through the streets... Decades of lib lies are not going to be rectified right away, it takes lots of time and effort. We need to think long-term, and we need to include Afr-Americans and Hispanics in our ranks, or we'll become the dinosaur party.

I've said if before and I'll say it again, education, harping on the facts, blasting the lib lies... We need to do this again and again until the message starts to get out there.

14 posted on 07/23/2003 6:08:59 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: mhking
Don't sweat it, big bruh. Let us keep doing what we have to do. I don't even challenge folks about this anymore because I already know that we're always outnumbered and always outgunned.

Some of those guns come from our own side. It's sad, but now completely expected.


Cooler than a fan.

15 posted on 07/23/2003 6:36:22 AM PDT by rdb3 (Nerve-racking since 0413hrs on XII-XXII-MCMLXXI)
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To: rdb3
I don't even challenge folks about this anymore because I already know that we're always outnumbered and always outgunned.

Yeah, but it's pretty damn sad when some of the guns that are supposed to be helping us are instead pointing at our backs.

Talk about fighting battles on multiple fronts!

16 posted on 07/23/2003 6:42:19 AM PDT by mhking
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To: rdb3
I don't even challenge folks about this anymore because I already know that we're always outnumbered and always outgunned.

Count me as a "whitey" who's on your side. We have no right to gripe about the scant share of the black vote we earn, if we don't take proactive steps to share our message.

17 posted on 07/23/2003 6:42:35 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: mhking
I posted this on a thread datesd 6/27/03... Interestingly enough, no one could respond to it, not even the ones asking the questions...

Write them off. Today. It is a waste of time and political capital to ever think that they will leave the plantation. And, why should we waste said time and capital on only 8% of the vote, anyway?

I've got to play devil's advocate here... The Jewish vote is about 2% of the population, and they vote over 60% "socialist" (your terminology), about 24% Republican. To put it in comparible terms (to African American terms), it translates to the same exact number of votes. To make it even more controversial, most of the Jewish votes are concentrated in some of the most non-contested states (NY, Cali, NJ) that go Democrat anyway, and Florida which is pivotal... Black votes are much more scattered throughout the country, and many states could flip by a 1% margin (see the 2000 vote)... Given the fact that in absolute terms, we receive the same exact number of votes from both of these voting groups, would you ever advocate not caring about the Jewish vote, and writing that off? Every voting constituency counts, as long as we don't go off the deep end and lean left to gather votes.

Although, please answer the question: why is GWB courting that vote?

It's the margins... There are several states that could potentially be tos-ups, especially when you factor in the democratic "cheat" factor... I genuinely believe that a great deal of the population has been conned by 50 years of liberal brainwashing- that they're the only party that cares about the minorities and the common man, while the reality is that they want the minorities to be embolden to them, relying on them for government gifts. I truly want the Republican party to become dominant for decades. The best way to do that is to continue to educate, pound the message over and over, that the Republican party cares about the average person... Over time, several members of the democratic party will switch over... Think about it... In a few years, the hispanic and African American votes will surpass the white vote... If we don't reach out to try and obtain their support, even if it's babysteps, our future looks bleak. While I would never espouse changing our platform wholesale, I'd have no problem continuing to reach out to communites that are not typically considered Republican. Consider the future demographics.

18 posted on 07/23/2003 7:21:07 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: jagrmeister
"We need to address black churches, black radio, black magazines, black TV and other influences of opinion within the black community."

Lotsa luck on that, fella. Especially with the Black publications. It seems every time I pick up an edition of Jet Magazine, they're always addressing a Democratic issue in its Politics section. The same goes for Ebony, Essense, and even Black Enterprise. The day any of these DNC tip sheets say anything positive about the Republican party or President Bush in particular, will be the day that you-know-where freezes over. I can say this, because I'm Black, and grew up reading most of those publications prior to changing my party affiliation. They only make good kindling for a fire in my opinion.

-Regards, T.
19 posted on 07/23/2003 7:24:40 AM PDT by T Lady (.Freed From the Dimocratic Shackles since 1992)
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To: mhking
Bush and the Republicans should stop pandering to blacks. The conservative message is in itself a winning message to blacks.

Blacks have always been conservative. Black families used to look after each other kids and report them to their parents when they goofed off. Blacks have always prided themselves with family reunions, picnics, and other gatherings.

Blacks need to learn the hard way that the Rats are playing them for fools.

20 posted on 07/23/2003 7:25:01 AM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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