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1 posted on 07/22/2003 8:38:29 PM PDT by Timesink
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Great News! [sarc]
2 posted on 07/22/2003 8:45:14 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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4 posted on 07/22/2003 8:53:48 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (For the clueless: Conservatives DO NOT believe in "subsidized" drugs.)
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This would be more useful if I knew what a "lanmanager hash" was. They want information from me that I don't even have, let alone am willing to give out. So what's the catch - you give them a code, they decode it for you?
5 posted on 07/22/2003 8:54:07 PM PDT by meyer
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To: Timesink
This is almost completely useless as an exploit.
6 posted on 07/22/2003 8:55:12 PM PDT by general_re (The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.)
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Oh please. All you need is the emergency boot disk to have access to the whole Windows system sans password.
8 posted on 07/22/2003 9:15:24 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Timesink
This isn't an exploit. It's a cute sophomore computer science programming exercise.
9 posted on 07/22/2003 9:19:32 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Timesink
Assuming the numbers in the article...

This only speeds things up by a factor of 10,000, so a brute-force attack would only take about 14 hours.  That may seem much longer but a password that can be brute-force cracked in 14 hours stinks big time  And since the attacks can be done away from the target computer, what's the hurry?

Salting passwords does slow down the storage/time tradeoff attacks, but does zilch against the brute-force attack - the same password still takes only 14 hours to crack against Unix.

Does anyone know how much salt Unix uses these days? It believe it used to be only 12 bits. If that is the case now, 12 bits of salt only retard things by a factor of 4096. That could be a crack in 6 hours instead of 5 seconds with the same storage,  a crack in 5 seconds with about 4000 GB, or a crack in 100 seconds with only about 200GB.

There is no technology to make a short password secure. Use a long password whether or not they make you.
56 posted on 07/22/2003 10:45:36 PM PDT by Russian Sage
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bump
71 posted on 07/22/2003 11:12:28 PM PDT by amarok
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To: Timesink
We have implemented an online demo of this method which cracks alphanumerical passwords in 5 seconds average

Except we only allow 3 bad passwords in a row. Sorry

75 posted on 07/23/2003 4:29:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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Does this mean my wife will be able to find my porn?

Techies, anyone?

85 posted on 07/23/2003 1:07:00 PM PDT by TravisBickle
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bttt
92 posted on 07/23/2003 1:39:47 PM PDT by tutstar
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Dude, that's some powerful hash!
93 posted on 07/23/2003 1:43:06 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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