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The Sun (U.K.) ^ | 07/23/03 | The editors

Posted on 07/22/2003 7:30:27 PM PDT by Pokey78

WITH one stunning strike, America’s special forces have wiped out two of Iraq’s most wanted monsters.

Saddam Hussein’s sons Uday and Qusay were truly the incarnation of evil.

They murdered, raped and tortured without pity.

They laughed and smoked fat cigars as their screaming victims were dropped into shredding machines or boiled in vats of acid.

They held the nation of Iraq in trembling terror. No husband, no wife, no young girl or boy was safe from their disgusting clutches.

And they were busy making ghastly weapons so they could turn their murderous attentions to us in the West.

It was to rid the world of creatures like these that America and her Allies went to war.

Every time you hear someone whining — probably on the BBC — that the war in Iraq was unjust, spare a thought for the thousands who suffered unspeakable miseries under the Saddam regime.

Facing up to beasts and bullies takes courage. Not just physical courage on the battlefield, although we thank our Forces profoundly for that, but moral courage in the political world too.

Tony Blair had that courage. He submitted himself to criticism and abuse to do what he knew in his heart was right.

Today, that courage has reaped another dividend with the death of Saddam’s hateful sons.

Now there remains Saddam himself. He must not — and WILL not — escape the fate he so richly deserves.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: decapitation; next; qusay; uday

1 posted on 07/22/2003 7:30:27 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Saw the History Channel special on this pair the other night. They didn't even try to hide what they did - it was more effective if everybody knew. No sympathy.
2 posted on 07/22/2003 7:33:59 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Pokey78
Tony Blair had that courage. He submitted himself to criticism and abuse to do what he knew in his heart was right.

Yes. Some vindication for Tony Blair today.

3 posted on 07/22/2003 7:37:03 PM PDT by veronica (http://www.petitiononline.com/KN50711/petition.html - Confirm Daniel Pipes to USIP ......sign this!)
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To: Pokey78

4 posted on 07/22/2003 7:38:43 PM PDT by armymarinemom
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To: Pokey78
Bump...
5 posted on 07/22/2003 7:38:59 PM PDT by TomServo ("Hi! I'm Moisty, the national spokesman for sweat!")
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To: Pokey78
With the sons gone now, it is time to bag Dad!
6 posted on 07/22/2003 7:47:53 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: Pokey78
***Every time you hear someone whining — probably on the BBC — that the war in Iraq
was unjust, spare a thought for the thousands who suffered unspeakable miseries
under the Saddam regime. ****

BBC? Na. try DU! There is a grand fight going on now between the yeas and nays over this.
7 posted on 07/22/2003 7:52:29 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ethyl
With the sons gone now, it is time to bag Dad!

Paper or plastique?

8 posted on 07/22/2003 7:59:02 PM PDT by Mark Turbo (The saga continues.)
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To: Pokey78
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

The best thing we could do for the troops is to get the truth out about their awesome efforts and to expose the traitor press that's
selling 'em out for political purposes:

Forwarded Message From: ***** Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:39:56 EDT To:***** Subject: Spec Opns Email from Iraq COL**** wrote:
Language may be a bit off color to some and it is long. However, it is well worth the read. I recommend it. Original message, which came
from e-mail thread out of SOCOM (spec. ops command) in Tampa, it is from Army spec. ops Subject: FW: Message From Iraq It Ain't
Necessarily So. Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003, 11:09:09 GMT

Hey Guys, sorry it's been so long since I've sent anything but a quick note to you individually. However things have been pretty hectic
since the end of hostilities and the start of the real war.

Despite what the assholes in the press like to say over and over about the Ba'ath Party and Feydaheen. 2) It isn't any worse than
expected; 3) Things are getting better each day, and 4) The morale of the troops is A-1, except for the normal bitching and griping. My
brief love affair with the press, especially the guys who had the cajones to be embedded with the troops during the fighting, is probably
over, especially since we are back being criticized by them same RolandHeadly types that used to hang around the Palestine Hotel
drinking Baghdad Bob's whiskey and parroting his ridiculous B.S.

I'm in Baghdad now, since SpOpComm 5 relocated here from Qatar. It looks, sounds and smells about the same but at least you can get
Maker's Mark at the local OC. We came up in mid-June to help set up operation Scorpion and Sidewinder. It represents a major (and long
overdue) shift in tactics. Instead of being sitting ducks for the ragheads we now are going after the worthless pieces of fecal matter.
[OD NOTE: VERY understated!]

I'm no longer baby-sitting the pukes from CNN and the canned hams from the networks, but have a combat mission coordinating a bunch
of A teams, seeking, finding and rooting out the mostly non-Iraqis that are well-armed, well-paid (in U.S. dollars) and always waiting to wail
for the press and then shoot some GI in the back in the midst of a crowd.

The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream
in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly
news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us. Some do.

But the vast majority don't and more and more see that the GIs don't start anything, are by-and-large friendly, and very compassionate,
especially to kids and old people. I saw a bunch of 19 year-olds from the 82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they
got a group of elderly civilians out of harm's way. So did the Iraqis. A bunch of bad guys used a group of women and children as human
shields.The GIs surrounded them and negotiated their surrender fifteen hours later and when they discovered a three year-old girl had
been injured by the big tough guys throwing her down a flight of stairs, the GIs called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother
to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem inthat neighborhood since.

How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, never get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada. The civilians
who have figured it out faster than anyone are the local teenagers. They watch the GIs and try to talk to them and ask questions about
America and Now wear wrap-around sunglasses, GAP T- shirts, Dockers (or even better Levis with the red tags) and Nikes (or Egyptian
knock-offs, but with the "swoosh") and love to listen to AFN when the GIs play it on their radios. They participate less and less in the
demonstrations and help keep us informed when a wannabe bad-ass shows up in the neighborhood.

The younger kids are going back to school again, don't have to listen to some mullah rant about the Koran ten hours a day, and they get
a hot meal. They see the same GIs who man the corner checkpoint, helping clear the playground, install new swingsets and create soccer
fields. I watched a bunch of kids playing baseball in one playground, under the supervision of a couple of GIs from Oklahoma. They weren't
very good but were having fun, probably more than most Little Leaguers

The place is still a mess but most of it has been for years. But the Hospitals are open and are in the process of being brought into the
21stCentury. The MOs and visiting surgeons from home are teaching their docs new techniques and One American pharmaceutical
company (you know, the kind that all the hippies like to scream about as greedy) donated enough medicine to stock 45 hospital
pharmacies for a year. > Safe water is more available. > Electricity has been restored to pre-war levels but saboteurs keep cutting the
lines. And The old Ba'ath big shots are upset because they can't get fuel for their private generators. One actually complained to General
McKeirnan, who told him it was a rough world.

The MPs are screening the 80,000 Iraqi police force and rehabbing the ones that weren't goons, shake-down artists or torturers like they
did in East Berlin, Kosovo and Afghanistan. > There are dual patrols of Iraqi cops and U.S./U.K./Polish MPs now in most of the larger cities.
>

Basra has 3.5 million inhabitants. > Mosul is a city of 2 million. > Kirkuk has 1 million. > How many and hundreds of other small towns have
not had riots or shootings? The vast majority. > >

The six U.K. cops were killed in a small Shiite town by the ex-cops they were re-habbing. > According to a Royal Marine colonel I talked to,
the town now has about twenty permanent vacancies in its police force. > Mick, he's a big potato eater from Belfast named Huggins and
knows how to handle terrorists after twenty years fighting with the IRA. He sends his regards and says he'd love to have you here.
Thinks you'd make a great police chief, even though the cops would be more frightened of you than the local hoods (then he laughed) >
>

I heard one doofus on MSNBC the other night talk about how "nearly 60" GIs have been killed since 01 May. The truth is that 21 GIs have
been killed in combat, mostly from ambush, from 01 May through 30 June, Another 29 have been killed by accidents or other causes (two
drowned while swimming in the Tigris). > > The [MSNBC turd] is the same jerk who reported on the air that "dozens of GIs" were badly
burned when two RPGs hit a truck belonging to an Engineer Battalion that was parked by a construction site. The truck was hit and
burned, three GIs received minor injuries (including the driver who burnt his hand) and three warriors of Allah were promptly sent to enjoy
their 72 slave girls in Paradise. Hell of a way to get laid. > >

A mosque in that shithole Fallujah blew up this morning while the local > imam, a creep named Fahlil (who was one of the biggest local
loudmouths that frequently appeared on CNN) was helping a Syrian Hamas member teach eight teenagers how to make belt bombs. Right
away the local Feyhadeen propaganda group started wailing that the Americans hit it with a TOW missile (If they had there wouldn't have
been any mosque left!) and the usual suspects took to the streets for CNN and BBC. One fool was dragging around a piece of tin with
blood on it, claiming it was part of the missile. > > The cameras rolled and the idiot started repeating his story, then one of my guys
asked him in Arabic where he had left the rag he usually wore around his face that made him look like a girl.

He was a local leader of the Feyhadeen. We took the clown in custody and were asked rather indignantly by the twit from BBC if we were
trying to shut up "the poor man who had seen his mosque and friends blown up." I told the airy-fairy who the raghead was and if he knew
Arabic (which he obviously didn't) he'd know he was a Palestinian. I suggested we take him down to the local jail and we'd lock him and his
cameraman in a cell with the "poor man" and they could interview him until we took him to headquarters. They declined the invitation. >

Guess what played on the Bullshit Broadcasting System that evening? Did the > Americans blow up a mosque? See the poor man who is
still in a state of shock over losing his mosque and relatives? Yep. Our friend the > Palestinian. > >

Our search and destroy missions are largely at night, free of reporters and > generally terrifying to those brave warriors of Allah. The
only thing that frightens them more is hearing the word "Gitmo". The word is out that a trip to Guantanimo Bay is not a Caribbean vacation
and they usually start squealing like the little mice they are, when an interrogator mentions "Gitmo". No wonder the International Red
Cross, the National Council of Churches and the French keep protesting about the place. They know it has proven to be very effective in
keeping several hundred real fanatical psychopaths in check and very frankly would rather see them cut loose to go kill some more GIs or
innocent Americans, just to make W. look bad. > >

We have about 200 really bad guys in custody now and probably will park them in the desert behind a triple roll of razor wire, backed up
by a couple of Bradleys pointed their way, if they decide to riot. Maybe a few will get to Gitmo but most are human garbage that wouldn't
take on your five-year old grandson face-to-face. The more we go after them and not vice-versa I think we will see the sniper attacks go
down. Yeah, they'll get lucky now and then, but it's showtime, fellows. > >

Our first objective is to get the die-hards off the street (or make them too > scared to come out in them) and destroy their caches of
weapons (we have > collected more than 227,000 A-47s and that is only the tip of the iceburg; > Curly bought nearly a million of them
from our pal Vladimir), then cut off > their money supply, mostly from Syria and Lebanon.

We must continue to get > public services up and running, so the local families can get water, sewage > and garbage service; electricity,
public transportation; oil fields and > refineries working and a dinar that won't halve in value every month. > >

It's going to be a long haul (remember it took 10-15 years in Japan and West > Germany) but if we don't stick with it, nobody else will,
and we'll have > some other looney running the place again. > > This place has greater potential than Saudi Arabia (bunch of
goat-herders > who struck black gold) or Iran (weird dudes who can't run a rug bazaar much > less a major country). > > Armageddon,
here we come. Remember, it's located on the outskirts of > Jerusalem. > > Enough of that cheery speculation. >

The good news is that General Schoonmaker is going to appointed ChiefArmy > and the old man is coming to Tampa to run the SpOps
desk at CentComm. He's > tops and will be getting his second star. To me it means that SpOps will be > more predominant in future
operations and after 18 years as a GB maybe I'll > have a shot at a bird-level combat command. The old man asked me to come to >
MacDill and be his ACS but I told him after I spent four months changing the > diapers of the media types, I wanted to go back to action.
Hence, my > current gig. As the movie quoted old General Patton, "God help me, I love > it." I do. Nothing more satisfying than working
with the BEST damn soldiers > in the world, flushing real human poop down the drain and giving some folks > a chance at trying freedom
for a change. They may learn to like it and then > my great-great-grandson won't have to worry about some maniac trying to > destroy
the planet. > >

My tour is over at the end of August, and I plan to return to Tampa, brief > the old man, then head to San Rafael and see my two
sweethearts. I'd like > to visit my parents in Toronto and my brother in London, before taking on a > trip across the country. Just like any
other family. It will charge my > batteries before I end up back in some other shit ... er, interesting and > challenging location. I hope to
see most of you and ask for some advice, > not support. I know I've had that all along. Thanks. > > Now about that Maker's Mark. > God
Bless America > Mark. > > "War doesn't determine who wins, war determines who is left" De Oppresso Liber - RLTW! Special Forces
Association PO Box 41436 Fayetteville, NC 28309-1436 email: ***** Telephone ***** website: www.sfahq.org Fax ***** ------ End of
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2 posted on 07/21/2003 6:21 PM EDT by Lexington Green


For more pro-Coalition news click on my homepage.

Thanks for the ping, Tonkin.
9 posted on 07/22/2003 8:44:16 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Pokey78
"WITH one stunning strike, America’s special forces have wiped out two of Iraq’s most wanted monsters"

I love this statement - it's striking fear into the hearts of Arabs everywhere - lookout Syria and Iran - you could be next!!
10 posted on 07/22/2003 11:38:44 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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