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MSNBC: Alleged (Kobe Byrant) Victim seen bragging at a party 3 days later
MSNBC.COM ^ | 7/22/03 | MSNBC

Posted on 07/22/2003 8:20:57 AM PDT by Smogger

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To: honeygrl
But you doing anything wouldn't sell copies of their papers. The story about the famous person would sell quite a lot.

But if it can't be done, then it can't be done.

381 posted on 07/22/2003 2:00:29 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: nyconse
Saddam's evil sons are dead. Yes! It is now confirmed. The DNC must be crying in their lattes. They are going to need to wear black armbands!
382 posted on 07/22/2003 2:02:30 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: phreebass
Doubtfull... Perry Mason or Matlock is going to get her to crack up on the stand and she is going to admit that she made the whole thing up? Unlikely.. SHE is the one who led the charge out of the colorado woodwork... not the other way around.

The attacks by you guys and the media proves she has a lot to lose. Plus as I said filing false charges could lead to jailtime or at the very least brand her a liar. These people coming out of the woodwork have nothing to lose on the other hand.

Your opinions are clouded by hate as it is quite evident.

You're a goofball. What opinion of mine shows I hate Bryant?

Once you made up your mind it was set like concrete... some of us have been evaluating the stories as they come in... which leads us to believe the charges are unfounded.

Ha! You just said above that she will crack on the stand and say she lied. You're not even holding out the possibility that she was raped.

Did you get beat up in gym class or something?

Look at my handle, I like sports. I don't let it make me attack alleged victims who may be telling the truth though.

Money... as indicated by her partytime discussions...

You take for granted that she was at the party. If this is some big party, why wasn't the media there doing interviews with her?

...attention, sympathy, fame.. many of the things her prior cry for help failed to get her.

So you hold out no possibility that she was raped. Talk about concrete minds.

383 posted on 07/22/2003 2:08:58 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: nyconse
How do you know these people are really her friends? They could be anyone looking for a few bucks or a little attention

I think you are confusing hotel girl's "friends" with hotel girl. Or, maybe they all come from the same money-grubing, attention-seeking stock down thar.

384 posted on 07/22/2003 2:09:56 PM PDT by phreebass
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To: onyx
"I have a meatloaf to throw together. Please stand-in for me! "

lol I'll try!
385 posted on 07/22/2003 2:10:16 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: phreebass
I guess we will have to see how it plays out. Thanks for an interesting discussion, Must finish dinner. LOL
386 posted on 07/22/2003 2:11:01 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
"Good grief- a couple of weeks ago, they said aliens had landed. Must excuse me, need to get my tinfoil hat so they can't read my mind (just kidding). "

You are confusing the Star with one of the other tabloids. The Star and The Enquirer only deal with celebrities. They have their magazine mostly online, try proving what you said about the aliens. (you can't because they don't do those stories)
387 posted on 07/22/2003 2:12:47 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: nyconse
However, she went to the hospital immediately.

Really, do you know this; or do you believe this?? I have seen absolutely no reports of this fact. If she did this; then one is pre-disposed to believe her side of the story. However, from the reports I have heard/read; the victim waited 12 hours before deciding to do anything. The wait period causes me to question 'why'.

388 posted on 07/22/2003 2:12:52 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: nyconse
"How do you know these people are really her friends? They could be anyone looking for a few bucks or a little attention. "

Apparently they are people she is comfortable enough around to get drunk with.
389 posted on 07/22/2003 2:13:33 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: #3Fan
"But if it can't be done, then it can't be done. "

Are you agreeing that they can't find dirt on KB?
390 posted on 07/22/2003 2:14:35 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: #3Fan
"You take for granted that she was at the party. If this is some big party, why wasn't the media there doing interviews with her?"

If you read about the 5 kids who talked about the party, it said they were surprised to see her there after the incident. If they were surprised she was there, how would the media know she would be there either? I'm not even sure the media even knew who the girl was at that time. Plus, teens aren't going to advertise a party with alcohol to adults beforehand.
392 posted on 07/22/2003 2:18:54 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: honeygrl; All
I don't know the truth. I heard somewhere she came down and told people at the front desk she had been raped. She was injured, and they took her to the hospital. Don't know if it is true. I am going to wait and see what happens. I am not going to condemn Kobe (except for bad judgement cheating on his wife) or the girl. I don't know what the truth is. My only point is why should we automatically believe Kobe is telling the truth? He may be guilty or innocent. I don't know.
393 posted on 07/22/2003 2:21:42 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: #3Fan
Plus as I said filing false charges could lead to jailtime

Kobe being found innocent is NOT going to result her being found guilty of filing false charges, even in your bizarro universe.

Ha! You just said above that she will crack on the stand and say she lied

Actually, if you had read it, that was a rhetorical question which I answered was un UNLIKELY scenario.

You take for granted that she was at the party. If this is some big party, why wasn't the media there doing interviews with her?

Get with the program... This was not some sorta press conference for your anonymous victim. It was apparently a simple party.. and the her behavior was reported by the person who was throwing the party... and several other witnesses.

394 posted on 07/22/2003 2:23:12 PM PDT by phreebass
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To: honeygrl
Are you agreeing that they can't find dirt on KB?

I was talking about lies. It's easier to lie about an unfamous person who is not followed 24/7 than a famous person who usually has paparazzi and entourages.

395 posted on 07/22/2003 2:25:06 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Smogger
This just keeps getting better and better...

You're ENJOYING this?

396 posted on 07/22/2003 2:26:29 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: honeygrl
Please read this post:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/950757/posts

Kobe and his lawyers don't want witnesses testimony made public, they want to trash the girl without having to defend Kobe from lies and innuendo.




397 posted on 07/22/2003 2:27:32 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: honeygrl
If you read about the 5 kids who talked about the party, it said they were surprised to see her there after the incident. If they were surprised she was there, how would the media know she would be there either? I'm not even sure the media even knew who the girl was at that time. Plus, teens aren't going to advertise a party with alcohol to adults beforehand.

You'd be surprised at what teens tell their parents. Hell, the parents sometimes let them throw these parties. Beats scooping them up off the highway later. You're still assuming she was at a party. Big assumption.

398 posted on 07/22/2003 2:28:53 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: nyconse
"My only point is why should we automatically believe Kobe is telling the truth? "

I don't think any of us automatically believe anything KB says. Some just doubt the credibility of the girl more and more as things are leaked out. So far no one has been able to dig up any real dirt on KB's history showing him to be the type of person to rape. Many things have been pointed out about the girl's history to show her as mentally unstable and attention seeking.
399 posted on 07/22/2003 2:31:12 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: nyconse
>>>> I heard somewhere she came down and told people at the front desk she had been raped. She was injured, and they took her to the hospital. Don't know if it is true. <<<<

It's NOT. Never happened. Fact: She did not report the 'rape allegation' until the follwoing day at Noon.

See what I meant when I asked you where have you been?
400 posted on 07/22/2003 2:31:24 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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