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Marriage, Horror, And Susan Reimer
Fred on Everything ^ | 072003 | Fred Reed

Posted on 07/20/2003 7:59:11 PM PDT by Archangelsk

Marriage, Horror, And Susan Reimer


Take Horror. It's A Better Bet.

July 21, 2003

Were I to offer thoughts on marriage to young American men today, in these the declining years of a once-great civilization, my advice would be as follows: Don't do it. Or, if you do, do it in another country. In America marriage is a grievous error.

And why so? Because of The Chip. The Attitude. The bandsaw whine of anger, anger, anger that makes American women an international horror. It's there. It's real.

You, a young man, may not recognize the Chip if you have never seen normal, warm, happy women. If you are twenty-something and haven't been out of the US, you haven't seen them. They exist by the billion-in Latin America, Singapore, Taiwan, Malaya, China and, last I looked, France and Holland. And of course not every woman in America carries the Chip. None of them think they do. Yet it is the default, the usual, what comes out of the box.

The following is a perfectly ordinary, everyday, bulk-lot example, suitable for poisoning a cistern:

"Other than a 29-inch waist and a full head of hair, there isn't much to recommend the twentysomething male…He is living an extended adolescence -- an adult-olescence -- and every immature, irresponsible, self-absorbed thing he does is reinforced by the latest issue of his favorite men's magazine." (Susan Reimer, a columnist for the Baltimore Sun. I bet she goes out a lot.)*

Hers is the Attitude -- and what they think of you. It is the defining trait of American women. Exceptions exist, and they have my apologies, but they are few, and no, sport, your Sally probably isn't one of them. They're coiled to bite. As soon as problems arise in the marriage, they turn into Susan.

Susan Reimer is what is out there, guys: bitter that no one wants her (as who in his right mind could?), sure that no one is good enough for her, never having grasped that those who would be loved must first be lovable. Understand this: Susan is America. Some hide it better, springing it on you after the ceremony, but Susan is the rule.

The Susans do not like men. Sometimes they actually take courses in disliking men ("Women's Studies"). Yet they want to marry one and have babies. For them, the contradiction actually makes a kind of sense, because (and they know this, believe me) they will get the house, the children, and the child support.

For you, it makes no sense. You will get raped in the divorce courts. You don't know how bad it is. Don't do it.

A prime effect of marriage is backbreaking financial overhead: the excessive house in the prestigious suburb, the pricey but boring cars, all that. But if you don't fall into the trap, keeping your expenses down means you can live in Alaska or overseas and enjoy existence. There is more to life than debt service. Yet, although these are bad times for marrying, they are extraordinarily good times for being single.

Now, children. This is sticky. You may want them, or think you want them, or think you may want them. She wants them. My advice is to move to almost any country where English isn't spoken and women don't want their husbands to be the mothers of their children. Any country inhabited by the Chinese would do nicely.

Incidentally, remember that it is never now or never. Your prospects improve with time. At thirty-five or fifty you will be perfectly able to find a good woman if you know where to look. See above list.

Remember also that these are not good times for having children in America. It is almost irresponsible. The schools are scholastically poor, drug-ridden, given chiefly to political indoctrination, and hostile to male children. The universities are little better. Divorce is hell on children and their fathers, and nearly universal. The country lunges to police-statedom and isn't, I suspect, as stable as it might be. Worse, worst, there is Susan Reimer. Her name is legion, and she seeps everywhere, like the effluvium of unwashed socks.

Further, there is no social duty to have children. Some argue that the white population is in decline. Tough. If the country chooses to make having kids undesirable, then let it decline. It is not your problem.

Now, you might well wonder, why are American women carrying the Chip? Practically, it doesn't matter: They do carry it, and will continue. Still, it is partly because from birth they are fed the notion that they have been oppressed, battered, cheated, deprived, harassed, used as sex objects, not used as sex objects, on and on. Being rational, you are perhaps inclined to point out that never has a female population been less any of these things, but don't bother. It will have no effect. The Chip is an emotional artifact to which they respond emotionally.

The bedrock of The Attitude is that everything is the man's fault. Wonders Reimer, "What is the answer, especially if the 20- and 30-year-old male is such poor marriage material?" She does not wonder, "If I am such a grindingly awful termagant that men on three continents are crossing their legs and feeling queasy over my mere column, and won't come near me except in a Kevlar bathysphere with a disinfectant system, maybe I'm doing something wrong. Gosh. I wonder what?"

Yet something more is going on, though one does not easily see just what. Note that in recent decades we have seen the invention by women of bulimia and anorexia, which no one had heard of in 1965. Men made them do it. At roughly the same time women began getting breast implants, which men also made them do, and then suing about it. In the same period they began having induced memories of being raped or satanically abused by their fathers. Men again. The psychotherapy racket grew like kudzu, a sure sign of deep unhappiness over something.

All of this is recent. You have to be fifty to remember women who were resilient, sane, psychically strong and, within the limits of an often sorry existence, content. But whatever the answer, guys, the problem isn't yours.

Spend a year overseas, however you have to do it. For smart, classy, just plain glorious women who often speak English, try Singapore. Argentina is splendid. Many places are. You would be amazed. See what's out there before you marry a gringa with her Inner Susan, who will one day burst from her chest like one of those beaked space-aliens in the movies, dripping venom. They're death.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: attitude; chip; fredreed; marriage; reimer; susanreimer; wimmen
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Fred gets down right prehistoric here.
1 posted on 07/20/2003 7:59:12 PM PDT by Archangelsk
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To: Archangelsk
He's too correct to be comfortable.
2 posted on 07/20/2003 8:10:04 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Archangelsk
Licentiousness increases. This has been the long term trend in America since at least 1830. This will lead to tyranny, tyranny to a more Spartan morality (I hope!)
3 posted on 07/20/2003 8:21:10 PM PDT by Iris7
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To: Archangelsk
Fred is RIGHT ON. I'm a Canadian, foreign descent, dated and experienced women from India, Mideast, Britain, Europe and America. Young American women are absolutely in a state of deep hatred of young American (white) males. It is more than a "Chip", it is mass psychosis. Let me give you one small example. Watch Temptation Island; watch the attitude and negativity of the women. Now watch Temptation Island UK - the Brit version. Note how relaxed, cheerful and trusting the females are of the males and vice versa. It's quite an eye -opener!
4 posted on 07/20/2003 8:21:47 PM PDT by CanadianLibertarian
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To: Archangelsk
Feminism has created terrible problems, no doubt about it. No one should want to marry a diesel-dyke.

But men who think they want nice, docile, self-effacing wives should think again. Not too many such women exist, even in other countries or in earlier times. And if they did exist, they'd get pretty boring after a while.
5 posted on 07/20/2003 8:22:35 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Archangelsk
He sounds as bitter and paranoid as Susan. I smell a possible love match in the making.
6 posted on 07/20/2003 8:22:48 PM PDT by CaptainK
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To: Cicero
But men who think they want nice, docile, self-effacing wives should think again. Not too many such women exist, even in other countries or in earlier times. And if they did exist, they'd get pretty boring after a while.

Fred doesn't say he wants a docile, self-effacing wife. Just a human being who doens't instinctively mistrust and dislike men. And yknow what? Outside America they DO exist in huge numbers.

7 posted on 07/20/2003 8:24:38 PM PDT by CanadianLibertarian
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To: Archangelsk
This is the most courageous and accurate article I've read in a long while, and I love to read. The author's words are chilingly true - most American women are unfriendly, selfish, rude man-haters. Most American marriages end in divorce, and most divorces are filed by women. And they do get the house, the kids, and the man's money. Then they move on to another man. Women don't believe the "man-hating" label because they enjoy sex with men, thinking this means they must like them. Young American women are shallow, restless and angry. And young American men are equally shallow and clueless, thinking that the cheaper and easier their "significant others" are, the more fortunate they are. Bravo, for an insightful, accurate and refreshing article. You'll be scalded by all the angry, embittered women out there, as I will be for agreeing with you. But who really gives a damn? ;o) Regards!
8 posted on 07/20/2003 8:38:16 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Archangelsk
I have watched too many of my friends marriages go down the tubes and while it takes both parties to make the mess. The woman is most likely to be the one who "leaves", no matter what amends are made. I put leaves in quotes because she will actually stay but the guy will be removed although she ran out on the marriage.

I refuse to get married. I am now completely convinced there is not a woman out there that is worth my time or effort, at least not in the states.

This is good advice, if your are single and male stay single. it will be less headaches down the road.
9 posted on 07/20/2003 8:39:33 PM PDT by BudgieRamone (Not an ALPHA male...............................By modern womyn's standards :-D)
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To: Archangelsk
For the record, Susan Reimer is an extremely liberal, PC, proNARAL mother of teenagers, who writes a column for the Baltimore Sun.
10 posted on 07/20/2003 8:40:02 PM PDT by maica
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To: CaptainK; Cicero
He sounds as bitter and paranoid as Susan. I smell a possible love match in the making.

Fred is as bitter and paranoid as Susan. He has a point, though: a lot of women really are ugly-natured, manipulative, hostile, and as they used to say of Lord Byron, "mad, bad, and dangerous to know." Any man foolish enough to marry such feminist harridans--well, I won't say a man deserves such a fate, but he should have seen it coming. If a woman is nasty and grasping before marriage, how much worse will she be afterwards?

Solution? Marry a sweet-tempered Christian woman, a person of emotional stability, strength, courage in the face of adversity, calm, reverence, and joy. Where do you find such a woman? Well, not in a bar, Joe. There are millions of such women out there and most likely you'll find them in church. What? You say you don't go to church? Maybe that's half the problem. Maybe that's why guys like Fred end up in divorce court, sometimes more than once.

But men who think they want nice, docile, self-effacing wives should think again. Not too many such women exist, even in other countries or in earlier times. And if they did exist, they'd get pretty boring after a while.

Scuse me, Mr. Cicero. I have very little in the way of temper, and most people find me pretty docile. No one finds me boring, though. It's possible for a lady to be gentle, docile, supportive, and cooperative and still know how to break a stallion, write a novel, drive a front-end loader, handle a chainsaw, shoot a rifle, or converse skilfully at a diplomatic reception.

11 posted on 07/20/2003 8:52:23 PM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: TheCrusader
Young American women are shallow, restless and angry. And young American men are equally shallow and clueless, ...p ---------------------------

That's much of the basis of the problem. Nobody of intelligent sensibility can tolerate either of them.

12 posted on 07/20/2003 8:54:49 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Archangelsk
In three days I'm going to get on an airplane and fly to Ukraine, to search for my future wife.
This article reaffirms my reasons for making this trip.
Guys, if you're single, and decent marriage material, you've got to go to Russia. The women there are everything you could want.
13 posted on 07/20/2003 9:10:17 PM PDT by shekkian
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To: Archangelsk
I know that my experience with American women has made adopt the motto, "I hate people in general, and women in particular."

Mark
14 posted on 07/20/2003 9:14:02 PM PDT by MarkL (OK, I'm going to crawl back under my rock now!)
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To: Capriole
>>Marry a sweet-tempered Christian woman, a person of emotional stability, strength, courage in the face of adversity, calm, reverence, and joy. <<

Sorry, guys. You can't have her. I already married her.
15 posted on 07/20/2003 9:21:58 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: RLK
See what's out there before you marry a gringa with her Inner Susan, who will one day burst from her chest like one of those beaked space-aliens in the movies, dripping venom. They're death.

Been there. Done that. Pure and utter hell. You're right - Fred's entirely too accurate with his observations. But who could be surprised at the consequences - unintended and otherwise - of the feminist Left's war against men and the family. This is only the beginning.

16 posted on 07/20/2003 9:24:03 PM PDT by Noumenon (Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away. -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: Capriole
"Marry a sweet-tempered Christian woman, a person of emotional stability, strength, courage in the face of adversity, calm, reverence, and joy."

If it were only that simple.
17 posted on 07/20/2003 9:39:35 PM PDT by shekkian
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To: Archangelsk
I'm 29 and pretty financially successfull, townhouse paid for, etc. I would never, ever, even consider marrying an American woman. Period. Know too many friends that ended up w/nothing but an apartment and some old furniture and the wife gets the kids and the rest. Screw that.
18 posted on 07/20/2003 9:40:25 PM PDT by NoNewTaleToTell (Hay for my men, tequila for the horses.)
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To: Archangelsk
Some of these women Fred Reed complains about should be sent on a cultural exchange to the Middle East as wives for the local men.

Six months there will give them a new-found appreciation for the men at home.
19 posted on 07/20/2003 9:42:58 PM PDT by Loyalist
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To: NoNewTaleToTell; All
"Know too many friends that ended up w/nothing but an apartment and some old furniture and the wife gets the kids and the rest. Screw that."

What about pre-nups for the common folk? Could they be used to build in a little security in the event of divorce?
20 posted on 07/20/2003 10:07:02 PM PDT by avenir
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