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To: jack gillis
>>People.

This cartoon is sympathetic to Bush.

Want me to walk through it? <<

Based on the reactions I have seen here and in a few duplicate threads, there are many, many dolts here. It took me a while to figure out Ramirez' message (it helps that I know he is a very strong conservative -- probably the only one at the LAT).

It is a little frightening just how stupid and knee-jerking some of our fellow FReepers are.
57 posted on 07/20/2003 5:20:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: freedumb2003
It is a little frightening...

How old are you?

75 posted on 07/20/2003 5:22:47 PM PDT by Libloather (Proud member of the Vast Right Wing Fatwa...)
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To: freedumb2003
I got the cartoon from the moment I saw it. The fact that many do not is not because they are stupid, but because they were not adults during the Viet Nam war.

The photo from the Viet Nam war has always haunted me. It has a visceral reaction, and I am sorry if you think I am clueless, but this is a poorly done effort, because most people's reactions are NOT what the cartoonist intended.

It should not have been run, if for no other reason than that the hate-filled left will have some folks who think summary execution of the President is a good idea.

88 posted on 07/20/2003 5:25:20 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: freedumb2003
It is a little frightening just how stupid and knee-jerking some of our fellow FReepers are.

Most FReepers were OK during Clinton. But they got crazier after Bush, and much crazier after 9/11.

207 posted on 07/20/2003 5:51:30 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: freedumb2003
Ramirez at the LA Times is pro Bush

As for the cartoon it is intended to be pro bush...

The picture in question that cartoon is copied from, is famed on the left as showing an evil South Vietnamese unjustly committing a summery execution of a bound prisoner

With Bush being beat up unjustly over uranium issue the cartoon point is bush is being unjustly executed on a trumped up charge by a kangaroo court ...

Picking and image famed on the left for showing just that shoves it right in there face....

I’m sure the 60’s leftover leftist LA Times readers got it.....

But Ramirez screw up in forgetting other might not

219 posted on 07/20/2003 5:54:07 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: freedumb2003
It is a little frightening just how stupid and knee-jerking some of our fellow FReepers are.

Be gentle with your fellow Freepers. We have every reason to be defensive and to expect the worse from the press right now. Calmer voices will prevail in the end. Still, if thoughtful Freepers respond instantly in this way, what might an inflamed actual Bush-hater do seeing that pic?

Did you ever read the transcript of the UN racism conference - a week of anti-American, anti-Israel bashing - ending 9-9-01?

420 posted on 07/20/2003 6:53:46 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dep.Ast SOD, Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: freedumb2003
"It is a little frightening just how stupid and knee-jerking some of our fellow FReepers are."

Now there's a statement that surely does not belong in "Breaking News"
427 posted on 07/20/2003 6:56:54 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: freedumb2003
here! here!!! Lots of knee jerks is right!
499 posted on 07/20/2003 7:32:06 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: freedumb2003
In a strict intellectual sense this cartoon has the message that Bush is being hit with a lot of purely political attacks over Iraq. In that sense the cartoon is somewhat sympathetic. But this message is lost and overwhelmed by these anti-Bush factors:

1) Ugly caricature of Bush.
2) Portrays Bush as an impotent President with his hands tied (when in fact he's rapidly crushing what was once a large insurgent movement in Iraq.)
3) Cartoon makes a veiled suggestion that his political enemies may actually attempt violence against Bush. Given the context of numerous other threats of violence against Bush by left-wingers, the cartoon could be perceived by left-wing nuts as a suggestion to use violence against Bush.
4) Cartoon indirectly makes the usual false liberal accusation that Iraq is "another Vietnam" (when in fact the strategic situation there is much less difficult than what we faced in Vietnam).

So on the whole I would call this a clever attack cartoon against Bush, which at first glance may appears somewhat sympathetic. See, it isn't quite as simple as you thought (in your legendary superior mind).

797 posted on 08/21/2004 11:34:31 AM PDT by carl in alaska (Suddenly the raven on Scalia's shoulder stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven..."NeverGore")
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To: freedumb2003
It is a little frightening just how stupid and knee-jerking some of our fellow FReepers are.

I'm surprised that we don't have more knee problems amongst the FReepers, what with all the jerking going on...

831 posted on 08/22/2004 12:42:34 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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