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The man behind the `Savage Nation'
Mercury News ^ | July 20, 2003 | Mark de la ViƱa

Posted on 07/20/2003 4:29:01 PM PDT by Sunnyvale CA Eng.

In the pantheon of popular, bombastic radio and cable talk-show hosts, Michael Savage occupies a special place.

In contrast to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Schlesinger, Bay Area-based Savage mixes conservative diatribe and blunt observations with acerbic humor and a gift of gab. It has propelled him to the top of radio talk-show ratings as well as bestseller book lists.

Savage crossed a line recently, however. MSNBC fired him from his 5-month-old television cable show ``The Savage Nation'' on July 7 after he responded to a prank caller by calling him a ``sodomite'' and saying, ``you should only get AIDS and die.'' As a result, Savage's radio show, also called ``The Savage Nation,'' was suspended from stations in Boston and Los Angeles.

Savage, 61, apologized for the outburst in interviews and on his Web site. But whether the fiasco will affect his multimedia success remains to be seen.

There's no denying his popularity. His nationally syndicated radio show reaches about 6 million listeners on 310 stations (just behind Limbaugh, Hannity, Howard Stern and Schlesinger). In the liberal Bay Area it's the No. 1 program in the 4-7 p.m. Monday-Friday time slot, attracting 226,000 listeners each week. His book, ``The Savage Nation: Saving America From the Liberal Assault on Our Borders, Language and Culture,'' was on the New York Times bestseller list for five months this year.

KNEW-AM (910), Savage's radio home in San Francisco, decided not to suspend him because he apologized, said Ed Krampf, regional vice president in Northern California for Clear Channel, the owner of the station.

``His comments on MSNBC were wrong,'' Krampf said. ``He's admitted that and apologized to his listening audience. He assured us that this is not who he is, that it was an unfortunate mistake, and that I'd never have to worry about it again.''

Savage strikes a chord in fans -- and alienates opponents -- with his assertion that immigrants from ``turd world'' nations, ``seditious'' anti-war protesters and a cabal of ``feminist zealots'' that has ``feminized and homosexualized'' America are dragging us down.

On his MSNBC premiere in March, he explained his appeal: ``I have touched on a raw nerve that has been buried and suppressed in this country.''

Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz, who wrote about the talk-radio phenomenon in ``Hot Air: All Talk, All the Time,'' says, ``Savage pushes the envelope of acceptable discourse and taps into the grievances of folks who are angry at society. But he also has a cutting sense of humor that saves him from sounding like just another ranter.''

``He's a showman,'' says Michael Harrison, editor of Talkers Magazine, a talk-radio trade publication. ``He's a smart, mature, seasoned guy who knows instinctively how to make the radio pop. He knows how to . . . get people listening.''

``You say all I do is insults?'' he said in a Mercury News phone interview in February that turned contentious. ``I guess an awful lot of people like my insults.'' Savage refused several additional requests for an interview.

Those who knew Savage years ago are shocked by his metamorphosis, from 1960s author and proponent of herbal medicine, to 1970s hanger-on in the North Beach Beat poets crowd, to the right-wing talk-show host they hear today.

When asked about the apparent shift in his views, Savage said, ``I was once a child; I am now a man.''

Savage, whose legal name is Michael Weiner, was born in New York City in 1942 into a Russian immigrant family ``raised on neglect, anger and hate,'' he writes in his book, an autobiographical rehashing of his radio broadcasts.

In 1964, Savage met his first wife, Carol Ely (who is not mentioned in the book). Ely, an advertising copy writer who lives in Florida, says she underwent two abortions during their marriage. Savage now strongly opposes abortion.

By 1967, after Ely and Savage had separated, Savage met his second wife, Janet. She followed him to Hawaii, where he earned master's degrees in anthropology and botany at the University of Hawaii. He and Janet have two children.

Savage built a career as a nutritionist and herbalist. In his 1980 book ``Weiner's Herbal: The Guide to Herb Medicine,'' he praised the ``remarkable'' medicinal benefits of marijuana. He now attacks advocates of medicinal marijuana and rails against drug use.

While in Hawaii, he offered to produce readings by poets Allen Ginsberg and Lawrence Ferlinghetti, leaders of the Beat Generation. In a letter in the Ginsberg papers at Stanford University, Savage explained that he would like others ``to hear and see and know why I adore your public image.'' He signed one letter ``Love (archaic), Michael Weiner.'' Both writers took him up on his offer, participating in a reading there in 1972.

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1 posted on 07/20/2003 4:29:02 PM PDT by Sunnyvale CA Eng.
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.
Savage, whose legal name is Michael Weiner, was born in New York City in 1942 into a Russian immigrant family ``raised on neglect, anger and hate,'' he writes in his book, an autobiographical rehashing of his radio broadcasts.

Well it's a good thing he's clearly outgrown that.

2 posted on 07/20/2003 4:34:02 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.
(Why the excerpt only?) The man behind the `Savage Nation'
NEO-CONSERVATIVE HOST ONCE EMBRACED THE COUNTERCULTURE

Mercury News
>Savage, center, in 1975 with poet Neeli Cherkovski, left, and Nancy Peters, co-owner of San Francisco's City Lights bookstore.
Savage, center, in 1975 with poet Neeli Cherkovski, left, and Nancy Peters, co-owner of San Francisco's City Lights bookstore.

In the pantheon of popular, bombastic radio and cable talk-show hosts, Michael Savage occupies a special place.

In contrast to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Schlesinger, Bay Area-based Savage mixes conservative diatribe and blunt observations with acerbic humor and a gift of gab. It has propelled him to the top of radio talk-show ratings as well as bestseller book lists.

Savage crossed a line recently, however. MSNBC fired him from his 5-month-old television cable show ``The Savage Nation'' on July 7 after he responded to a prank caller by calling him a ``sodomite'' and saying, ``you should only get AIDS and die.'' As a result, Savage's radio show, also called ``The Savage Nation,'' was suspended from stations in Boston and Los Angeles.

Savage, 61, apologized for the outburst in interviews and on his Web site. But whether the fiasco will affect his multimedia success remains to be seen.

There's no denying his popularity. His nationally syndicated radio show reaches about 6 million listeners on 310 stations (just behind Limbaugh, Hannity, Howard Stern and Schlesinger). In the liberal Bay Area it's the No. 1 program in the 4-7 p.m. Monday-Friday time slot, attracting 226,000 listeners each week. His book, ``The Savage Nation: Saving America From the Liberal Assault on Our Borders, Language and Culture,'' was on the New York Times bestseller list for five months this year.

KNEW-AM (910), Savage's radio home in San Francisco, decided not to suspend him because he apologized, said Ed Krampf, regional vice president in Northern California for Clear Channel, the owner of the station.

``His comments on MSNBC were wrong,'' Krampf said. ``He's admitted that and apologized to his listening audience. He assured us that this is not who he is, that it was an unfortunate mistake, and that I'd never have to worry about it again.''

Savage strikes a chord in fans -- and alienates opponents -- with his assertion that immigrants from ``turd world'' nations, ``seditious'' anti-war protesters and a cabal of ``feminist zealots'' that has ``feminized and homosexualized'' America are dragging us down.

On his MSNBC premiere in March, he explained his appeal: ``I have touched on a raw nerve that has been buried and suppressed in this country.''

Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz, who wrote about the talk-radio phenomenon in ``Hot Air: All Talk, All the Time,'' says, ``Savage pushes the envelope of acceptable discourse and taps into the grievances of folks who are angry at society. But he also has a cutting sense of humor that saves him from sounding like just another ranter.''

``He's a showman,'' says Michael Harrison, editor of Talkers Magazine, a talk-radio trade publication. ``He's a smart, mature, seasoned guy who knows instinctively how to make the radio pop. He knows how to . . . get people listening.''

``You say all I do is insults?'' he said in a Mercury News phone interview in February that turned contentious. ``I guess an awful lot of people like my insults.'' Savage refused several additional requests for an interview.

Those who knew Savage years ago are shocked by his metamorphosis, from 1960s author and proponent of herbal medicine, to 1970s hanger-on in the North Beach Beat poets crowd, to the right-wing talk-show host they hear today.

When asked about the apparent shift in his views, Savage said, ``I was once a child; I am now a man.''

Savage, whose legal name is Michael Weiner, was born in New York City in 1942 into a Russian immigrant family ``raised on neglect, anger and hate,'' he writes in his book, an autobiographical rehashing of his radio broadcasts.

In 1964, Savage met his first wife, Carol Ely (who is not mentioned in the book). Ely, an advertising copy writer who lives in Florida, says she underwent two abortions during their marriage. Savage now strongly opposes abortion.

By 1967, after Ely and Savage had separated, Savage met his second wife, Janet. She followed him to Hawaii, where he earned master's degrees in anthropology and botany at the University of Hawaii. He and Janet have two children.

Savage built a career as a nutritionist and herbalist. In his 1980 book ``Weiner's Herbal: The Guide to Herb Medicine,'' he praised the ``remarkable'' medicinal benefits of marijuana. He now attacks advocates of medicinal marijuana and rails against drug use.

While in Hawaii, he offered to produce readings by poets Allen Ginsberg and Lawrence Ferlinghetti, leaders of the Beat Generation. In a letter in the Ginsberg papers at Stanford University, Savage explained that he would like others ``to hear and see and know why I adore your public image.'' He signed one letter ``Love (archaic), Michael Weiner.'' Both writers took him up on his offer, participating in a reading there in 1972.

Savage moved to the Bay Area in 1974. He enrolled at the University of California-Berkeley, earning a doctorate in nutritional ethnomedicine in 1978.

Through Ferlinghetti, he met many poets and artists in North Beach, the birthplace of the Beats. Savage, now blasted by the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation for his hateful rhetoric, did not shy from highlighting his association with Ginsburg, the openly gay poet.

Stephen Schwartz, a senior policy analyst at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies in Washington, D.C., and North Beach regular in the '70s, recalls that Savage ``seemed like a BS artist, a person who wanted attention and wanted to be taken very seriously.'' Others remember him then as opinionated, funny and devoted to his children, a man who was accepted by the same counterculture crowd he now disparages.

``I really don't understand the transformation of Michael Weiner into a Jew hater and a poet hater and a leftist hater,'' says Ferlinghetti, co-founder of City Lights bookstore of San Francisco. ``I don't know what happened in his life that caused that.''

In other media interviews and in his book, Savage has said that his experience with higher education altered his outlook. Despite his doctorate, Savage was rejected for various academic positions. He writes in ``The Savage Nation'' that affirmative action ``almost destroyed my family and me,'' and in 1996 he sued UC-Berkeley when he was denied an interview for the job as dean of its graduate school of journalism. The reverse-discrimination case was eventually dropped.

Whether Savage's current right-wing positions are the product of some epiphany at midlife or just opportunistic showmanship is unclear.

Longtime friend and physicist Jack Sarfatti likens him to Lenny Bruce, saying that much of what Savage says is misunderstood satire. ``Michael's just a smart Jewish kid from New York,'' Sarfatti says. ``He's extremely funny much of the time. But he's angry. A lot of Jewish intellectuals are angry, so Michael has kind of channeled his anger into a high form of art.''

But New York marketing consultant Alan Zaitz, a former friend who has known Savage for more than 50 years, is unsure how seriously the radio host takes his own message.

``Does he really believe what he speaks?'' Zaitz says. ``I don't know. Years ago he was anti-war, but now all of a sudden he's George Bush's best fan. It's hypocrisy, but it makes damn good radio.''


3 posted on 07/20/2003 4:45:26 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
(Why the excerpt only?)

No reason - I figured the link will take you there.

4 posted on 07/20/2003 5:06:12 PM PDT by Sunnyvale CA Eng.
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
So what exactly was the point of putting that rather personal information in that article, I wonder? Perhaps it was done in some fervent hope harm will come to Mike?

If so, and something indeed happens, I'd expect Mike to sue the hell out of Mark de la Viña and the Mercury News.

5 posted on 07/20/2003 5:17:43 PM PDT by Houmatt ("Best that we can do is alert people there to LP and the truth that FR has fallen."--TLBSHOW)
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.
No reason - I figured the link will take you there.

Formatting an entire article for posting here is more work, but it has the advantage of being permanent. On many or most news servers, links change and expire, files are shuffled around and deleted. Someone tracking down info via this post in a few months of years may well find that it is a dead end.

This is especially important for stories that cause their parent media organization to blush after release. Stories modified or pulled to squelch damning information are not unknown. If it has been archived on the FR server a story can't just disappear into the bit bucket.

Most news organizations don't require that we excerpt, the Washington Times and LA Times being two notable exceptions. Take the extra time and effort to post full articles - it's very much appreciated.

7 posted on 07/20/2003 5:45:19 PM PDT by Denver Ditdat
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To: fr_longtimer
I think Savage's schtick is an act.

Maybe so, but I can only take someone at the words of theirs which they give me to by. And his are pretty sorry.

8 posted on 07/20/2003 5:45:29 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.
Well he is free to land huge contracts now for his major talent.

He will either soar or more than likely end up on local city cable.
10 posted on 07/20/2003 5:49:10 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: LOL Clinton Was Impeached
I saw that the seconds I watched him.

I could never keep him on in the car and would have to switch to someone else who didn't sound like they were a crybaby all the time.

I guess he will enjoy his retirement and must have billions to fall back on from his stunning career.
12 posted on 07/20/2003 5:57:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Denver Ditdat
Most news organizations don't require that we excerpt, the Washington Times and LA Times being two notable exceptions. Take the extra time and effort to post full articles - it's very much appreciated.

Point taken - I'll include the whole article on future posts.

13 posted on 07/20/2003 6:01:32 PM PDT by Sunnyvale CA Eng.
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To: Denver Ditdat
Washington POST I think you mean! Wash. Times is on our side ;)
14 posted on 07/20/2003 6:15:07 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.
Alot of us were taken in by the brain washing of the sixties. How could you get away from it in the populated areas.. Those who always doubted the hippie wierdo life style were the ones who grew up to be the most open minded conservative thinkers today.
15 posted on 07/20/2003 6:20:03 PM PDT by jetson
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To: jetson
You didn't have Free Republic then to counter the LIES put out by the newsmedia.

It's a changed world, and they can't brainwash like they used to. We're not going to take, and they aren't going to push us their way. Period.
16 posted on 07/20/2003 6:30:08 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Right on mama.
17 posted on 07/20/2003 6:38:46 PM PDT by jetson
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To: jetson
I heard him on the radio once. A caller asked a reasonable question. Instead of using it as a chance to further explain his views, he spewed venom at the caller and boasted about how incredibly intelligent he (Savage) is. He sounded like a stupid jerk to me, so I turned the radio off. Haven't wasted time on him since.
18 posted on 07/20/2003 6:54:47 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Washington POST I think you mean! Wash. Times is on our side ;)

Whoops! You're absolutely right. I meant the PostHole, not the Times. Thanks for the correction!

19 posted on 07/20/2003 6:57:22 PM PDT by Denver Ditdat
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To: jetson
The leftist propaganda was overwhelming in '60's and up to early '90s. Just overwhelming. All that was bright and smart and sophisticated and classy was leftist. The good life was leftist. Smart, engaged caring people were leftist. It just seemed to come from every direction.
20 posted on 07/20/2003 7:04:38 PM PDT by squarebarb
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