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To: Cinnamon Girl
....or it could be she's telling the truth..he raped her....saving my opinion until I hear the evidence.
4 posted on 07/18/2003 6:51:01 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: mystery-ak
Absolutely. I really meant to suggest this as a possible scenario. I don't know what happened, obviously.
5 posted on 07/18/2003 6:51:59 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: mystery-ak
*****....or it could be she's telling the truth..he raped her....saving my opinion until I hear the evidence. *****

That's which side of the fence I am on too. I've done rape counseling and have seen BOTH sides of this coin. I expect this to be a brutal trial.
6 posted on 07/18/2003 6:53:19 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: mystery-ak
Could be. Did she go voluntarily and then consent to sex with him or not? That's for a jury to decide.
8 posted on 07/18/2003 6:53:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mystery-ak
But a basketball super star doesn't commit rape. Don't you know that? They are beyond doing anything like that.
101 posted on 07/18/2003 7:46:13 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: mystery-ak
"Here's what I think happened: this girl went up to Kobe's bedroom in the hotel, like she said.

She started having intimate contact with Kobe, they ended up in bed, and while they were in the middle of the act, the girl starts freaking out that she's only 19, Kobe isn't wearing protection, and she doesn't want to get pregnant.

So she starts telling him to stop.

But at that point, any man in that situation doesn't have a lot of concentration going on in his brain, and Kobe naturally wanted to complete the act, so maybe he restrained her a little.

Afterward, the girl was so upset, she ran to the police or whatever, knowing what she has been taught her whole life: "NO MEANS NO" even if you went up to a guy's room at night, even if you made out with him, even if you got in bed with him and starting doing stuff. "NO MEANS NO!!!"

-- mystery-ak

This is like me imagining that I could play pro NBA starting center for the Lakers.

First of all my very ultra liberal NYC sister was just on the phone with me defending Kobe Bryant.

I was telling her that "Dream Team II" was going to rip the girl to shreds and challenge the DNA even if was taken From Kobe and DNA tested right in front of the Judge and jury and on C-Span, CNN, and MSNBC as well as FNC and the three networks.

In this case the deep pockets of the State Prosecutor will not equal the massive amounts of cash that Kobe Bryant and his PR team will throw at defense attorneys, State medical examiners (OJ had 2! Lee-CT & ?-NYS), and DNA labs.

PR firms will fill the TV screens; Jesse Jackson will ejaculate his usual tired race-baiting crud.

Guys like Johnnie Cohran will ask Kobe to "try on the condum he did not used". (Proof, therefore that he is innocent.)

The print media and broadcast can and will be bought again, as will jury pools. If not thru cash, then by the diabolical PC racist refusal to convict a popular black athlete.



For one thing, Kobe Bryant is an utter moron!

One of God's chosen and gifted golden boys, he makes megabucks more from his Nike and Sprite endorsement contracts each year then he does playing for the LA Lakers. He also has other endorsements. Just what does Kobe gross a year, $40,000,000?

Is this an mature adult willing to trade his huge present and past income for a quick roll in the hay?

Another point is that few multi-millionaire athlete's wives ever leave them; neither do wives of Bill Cosby and Jesse Jackson.

Sorry to be crude, but his wife thinks of herself, her kids, and a biggo bank account.

If she turns on Kobe it would be like Hillary turning divorcing Bill Clinton.

That does not prove that Bryant is really guilty of forcible rape, but it points out he is an ignorant unappreciative wealthy jerk.



Will all the jerks out there please argue with me here:

Kobe could have had a room full of bimbos, like Magic Johnson did; look what unprotected sex got him!

How about Herpes?

There is a lovely little take-out dish to take home to your lovely wife!

Many of us grew up and "socialized" before 100% deadly and lifetime communical diseases were rampant.

Now don't start throwing me your BS numbers about "survival"! The longer they live, the more they infect, the more they kill! AIDS is a 99% voluntary disease.

The cemetaries are full of gay doctors who "knew it all". So much for IQ and intelligence.

I myself cannot compete with my ex-NASA construction engineer brother in math or memory(he recalls everything and where it was on a page 40 years ago!) or my lib NYC sister on computer (but I beat here at HTML and) and organization skills. (yet I run circles around both in product development [inventing, etc], business marketing and sales.)

Still bugs me, but I run with what God brunged me and attempt to have 1/2 the sense of my Bluetick hound dawg Tex.

Bryant is somewhat older then this young women; is he can remember all of his playbook, he should be able to remember how much he makes playing bb and how to keep his zipper up.

It is sad to see two people destroyed like this. On other FR threads you may have read my comments:

Stay out of court. Period. when you win you lose. There is no sum of cash or amount of time that will replace what a court case can do to you.

Proving a point can be destructive to your health and welfare; you rarely have the Kobe/Skakal/OJ/Clinton bucks or juice to survive the Prosecutor's US taxpayer funded attack.

If you look at Skakal (Kennedy cuz), OJ, or Clinton you will see in their faces that cort cases and playing with the devil will age you quickly.

Doubt me?

Look at Hillary's face! My Aunt looked better at 75.

<RANT>Sorry for taking so much bandwidth!</RANT>

Happy trails......

223 posted on 07/18/2003 9:22:09 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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