Restoring the 2nd Amendment in D.C.

Human Events ^ | Jul 18, 2003 | Chris Field

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[Atlas Sneezed]

Bang

[Centurion2000]

It won't pass ... too many democrats (and RINO's) are fearful of the population being armed and being close to where they work.

If Rome didn't trust the Legions to be in the city, the DC boy will not trust it's 'peons' with guns either. Cynical but probably true.

[spodefly]

Now this sounds like "Common Sense" gun legislation. Does anyone think Eleanor Holmes Whatever will go along with it?

Also, you gotta love Zell Miller, the lone (D) in a sea of (R)'s.

[Orangedog]

She and the rest of CBC (the klan with a tan, as Walter Williams calls them) will oppose this. Why?... Because if the DC residents weren't spending so much time being scared and at the mercy of criminals, they might realize that they are being used by those poverty pimps.

[Shooter 2.5]

The only democrat to make the honor roll is Zell Miller.


Does anyone want to bring up the "there's no difference in the parties" argument?

[Gringo1]

Zell Miller is a Georgia boy, that is the difference in this case. He also isn't an idiot.

[Grut]

Does anyone want to bring up the "there's no difference in the parties" argument?

Both parties favor big government, but the 'pubbies want it to do one set of things while the Dems want it to do the opposite set. By alternating power and never repealing anything, the two parties combine to ensure that big government does everything.

Anything sponsored by Orrin Hatch is doomed, by the way.

[Shooter 2.5]

Since the Second Amendment is my number one priority, I'll support the Republican Party over all others.

[El Laton Caliente]

I agree, once the 2nd is gone the rest will follow rapidly.

[jdege]

Truthfully, I'd rather see the D.C. ban overturned by the Courts.

[Grut]

Since the Second Amendment is my number one priority, I'll support the Republican Party over all others.

Why? The 'pubbies may not be for gun control but they're not so against it that they'll fight the Dems to keep it from happening.

[Shooter 2.5]

You apparently haven't been following the state CCW laws lately.

The CCW laws have stopped the handgun bans in their tracks and it's all because of the Republican Party. The dem party has constantly been against the carry laws.

As far as reversing the Assault Weapons Ban or the Gun Manufacturers Protection Bill, check to see which party is against them and which one is for it.

[Grut]

The CCW laws have stopped the handgun bans in their tracks and it's all because of the Republican Party.

I admit I haven't been following things too closely, but my impression is that CCW reform is largely the result of private efforts the GOP has been willing to 'go along' with, not anything they've initiated themselves. The trouble with that is, they're also often willing to 'go along' with the Democrats.

[Shooter 2.5]

Wrong.

The next time a CCW vote is on the net, watch the debates between the two parties. The Minnesota Senate vote was on FR. You should have taken the time to watch it for a real eyeopener. Ask someone like Dead Corpse or Jdege what it was like.

The vote on the Missouri CCW law is going to be next. Do a little research.

[jdege]

There were Republicans who opposed shall-issue in Minnesota, but not many of them. Of the four Minnesota GOP Senators who voted against shall-issue carry in 2001, only one returned to the Senate in 2003, and she was refused endorsement by the district GOP convention, and ran as an Independent.

There have been some Democrats who were strong supporters of shall-issue, but even so, they voted for a rabidly anti-gun Senate leadership. The GOP leadership was openly pro-gun. Not all of them truly see the light on the issue, understanding how fundamentally important it is to ensure that we maintain an armed citizenry, but some do. And the rest understand the political reality.

The shall-issue bill passed in Minnesota because over the last seven years, through three election cycles, the pro-carry advocates turned out people at the caucuses, the primaries, and the general elections, and put pro-carry candidates in office.

[Shooter 2.5]

Exactly.

If anyone looks at the debates, the rift between the parties is evident.

The dem party is starting to abandon gun control as a campaign issue but that doesn't mean once they get in office they still continue down that path.

They will continue to lose until they start supporting the Bill of Rights.

[Dead Corpse]

For the most part, you are right on this one. Where you are wrong is in thinking that the Republicans are the most pro-2A. That would be the Liberatarians.

Didn't Alaska just vote in Vermont style carry? 2 down 49 to go....