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To: Jim Cane
So then the problem is we like to live better, which costs more, and we then think we are entitled to that and we then think it's ok to take away fundamental freedoms so we can keep up our preferred lifestyle. And then anyone who is more competitive than us should be somehow thwarted.

Sounds reasonable.

61 posted on 07/16/2003 12:36:04 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
So then the problem is we like to live better, which costs more, and we then think we are entitled to that and we then think it's ok to take away fundamental freedoms so we can keep up our preferred lifestyle. And then anyone who is more competitive than us should be somehow thwarted.

You mean the way American products are thwarted from being sold overseas by other nations high import duties?

Exactly what fundamental freedoms are you talking about?

Freedeom From Tariffs? The Constitution says otherwise.

Freedom to take money from me and my business and hand it over to my competitor? That's not in the Constitution.

What fundamental freedom did you lose by Reagans bike tariff?

68 posted on 07/16/2003 12:55:27 PM PDT by Jim Cane
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To: Protagoras
"Sounds reasonable."

Boy, you had better get over your idea of 'fairness', and realize who the 'enemy' is. The offshore cheap labor, will have no such compunction when it comes to your livelyhood.

Currently the US consumer is driving the economies of these offshore corps, but what happens when US consumers no longer have the means to buy anything due to a wholesale reduction in the living standard?

I'll tell you what: bloodshed.

91 posted on 07/16/2003 2:46:41 PM PDT by wcbtinman (Only the first one is expensive, all the rest are free.)
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To: Protagoras
What fundamental freedom is taken away by reducing or elminating the H1-B and L-1 visa? The rights of Indian IT workers to jobs in America? I don't think the constitution protects that. Tariffs were a part of the Constitutional plan. Is charging a 40% fee on a outsourced service taking away a fundamental freedom? Which of the Ammendments in the Bill of RIghts is violated. Sorry, I am missing your point.
95 posted on 07/16/2003 3:37:14 PM PDT by Jack Black
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