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To: exodus
In one of the Waco movies the negotiator is depicted as being quite ticked off at the person in charge. At one point he had achieved a concession by Koresh, which he felt signified progress, but that very night the all night music and spotlights were implemented. He made it very clear that he didn't not concur with management's actions and basicly minced no words.

I've got to admit, you and I share the same basic frame of reference with this though.

About five years ago my wife and I were asked out to dinner by a physician friend. Joining us that evening was supposed to be his wife, a nurse and her FBI agent husband.

During our dinner conversation it surfaced that this guy had been at Waco. He was a rapid response team member. This guy was very tight lipped. I'm sure he'd have rather this not come up.

I don't remember exactly how our conversation progressed now, but at one point I was asked my thoughts on Waco. After a moment I said, "People don't generally think of our nation in these terms, but our nation is not immune from the dangers that afflict other nations. The thing that concerns me, is that even in the United States we need to be vigilant against government abusing the rights of our people."

I don't think there is any doubt that at least two people at that table knew exactly what was on my mind.

18 posted on 07/16/2003 1:35:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
In one of the Waco movies the negotiator is depicted as being quite ticked off at the person in charge. At one point he had achieved a concession by Koresh, which he felt signified progress, but that very night the all night music and spotlights were implemented. He made it very clear that he didn't not concur with management's actions and basicly minced no words.
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The movies are fun at times, but propaganda movies are a sign of government tyranny.

This "ticked-off" negotiator participated in an action he could plainly see leading to the death of Koresh and his family, even if he didn't have advance knowledge that the Davidians were slated for death. After the killings, the negotiator's only complaint was in "procedural" differences between departments.

The negotiator didn't testify in support of the Davidians in court, and I don't believe that anyone who was there thought the Davidians were guilty of the crimes that they were accused of.

I also don't believe that anyone with experience (or reasoning ability) would believe that four attackers were killed in the first few minutes of a frontal assault, each being shot in the left temple by the exact same caliper weapon, in the middle of a furious firefight. Those four law enforcement men were executed by some of their companions, not shot by Davidians defending their home.

For the sceptics among you lurkers, remember that each one of those four dead officers had recently served on the exact same Presidential detail as bodyguards for President Bill Clinton, who is famous for having well-publicized murders, suicides, and accidents linked to his name.

The Davidians didn't kill anyone, not even in self-defence. I'm not saying the Davidians didn't try, but they did not kill any of their attackers.

20 posted on 07/16/2003 2:45:35 PM PDT by exodus
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