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Biblical verses removed from Grand Canyon
CNN ^ | 7-14-03

Posted on 07/15/2003 7:05:37 PM PDT by hope

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

PHOENIX, Arizona (Reuters) -- After more than three decades at the Grand Canyon, three bronze plaques inscribed with biblical passages have been removed by U.S. park officials over concern that the religious messages violate the U.S. Constitution, officials said Monday.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aclu; bushdoctrine; galenorton; grandcanyon; interior; nps
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1 posted on 07/15/2003 7:05:37 PM PDT by hope
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To: hope
This is getting ridiculous. I believe the ACLU should be outlawed.

I don't believe the majority of American citizens want this to happen.

It's time to change the law back.
2 posted on 07/15/2003 7:09:52 PM PDT by freekitty
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A horse walks into a bar. The bartender comes up and says "Hey pal, what will it be?"

The horse orders a beer.

A few minutes later, John Kerry walks in and sits at the bar. The bartender walks up and says "Hey pal, cheer up. Why the long face?"

I'll stop if you guys will donate and get us over our fundraising goal

3 posted on 07/15/2003 7:10:31 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: hope
Sad
4 posted on 07/15/2003 7:10:45 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: hope
They were just fine for 33 years. The ACLU is pushing their religion, secular humanism, because it goes so well with the oppressive socialism they want to foist on us. Oh well. They can't take God out of our hearts and souls.
5 posted on 07/15/2003 7:11:06 PM PDT by arasina (I'm not sure if I really care for indecisive people. Maybe I do; maybe not.)
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To: hope
"They are religious plaques on federal buildings and that's not allowed based on the law," said Maureen Oltrogge, a Grand Canyon National Park spokeswoman.

Based on what specific law?

6 posted on 07/15/2003 7:11:45 PM PDT by Sokol
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To: hope
Boy the evil ACLU doesn't miss a beat does it?

Jay Sekalow alert

7 posted on 07/15/2003 7:11:54 PM PDT by apackof2 (Listen much, talk little, learn greatly)
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To: hope
Today I read an article about the establishment of a governing council in Iraq, in which Muslim clerics will have considerable influence because Iraq is primarily Muslim and we wish to respect their traditions, etc.

But what about respecting the Judeo-Christian tradition of the majority of Americans right here in our own country?

There was nothing in those verses that could possibly have offended any group, except the 1 millionth of 1 percent that are ACLU members. Why do they get to dominate the rest of us?
9 posted on 07/15/2003 7:13:45 PM PDT by livius
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To: hope
This is the type of thing that worries me as much,if not more than,some of the fiscal policies of the current administration.These items survived eight years of the U. S. Department of Interior as ran by Bill Clinton and didn't make it three years under George Bush's Interior Department.Why?
10 posted on 07/15/2003 7:16:03 PM PDT by John W
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To: hope
Ummm, the First Amendment forbids state-established churches. I'm not sure that these plaques count.
11 posted on 07/15/2003 7:17:21 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (If you don't check her hand first, you're dumber'n a bag of doorknobs!)
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The ACLU doesn't realize that it won't be long before they are ruled with a fist of iron
12 posted on 07/15/2003 7:18:13 PM PDT by hope (Whom the Son set free is free indeed!)
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To: hope
More importantly, the ACLU didn't sue to get them removed, they didn't have a court order, they didn't ask that they be removed even, they simply inquired about to whom they belonged. The kneejerk reaction of removing them was something the NPS did.
13 posted on 07/15/2003 7:19:19 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: hope
Let's cover that story this way:

"A virulently anti-semitic mob of government apparatchiks vented it's rage today by ripping ancient Jewish folk sayings from various locations in the Grand Canyon."

14 posted on 07/15/2003 7:21:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Here's the way the ACLU works. Take something from the Constitution, and sue over the part THAT FITS. Sure, the 'no establishment of religion' clause fits nicely here, but they left off 'or the prohibition thereof.' Same with the 2nd amendment. A 'militia' doesn't 'mean' the individual citizen, you see. No irony that it was included so that the 'individual' could be armed to overthrow a tyrannical government. I 'get' their tactics, just not their actual motive. I wonder specifically what about Christianity frightens them so much - besides outlawing it basically undermines each and every principle this country was built on and all of our values. Oh, wait! I just answered my own question.
15 posted on 07/15/2003 7:23:30 PM PDT by ysoitanly
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To: hope
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that these plaques were a gift put up with private funds. So, I wonder, are the folks that originally collected and donated the money going to be compensated?

FAT CHANCE!

16 posted on 07/15/2003 7:24:12 PM PDT by StACase
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and that's not allowed based on the law," Whose law? Please someone show me the words in the law that says thou shalt not display the law.
17 posted on 07/15/2003 7:24:44 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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Boy the evil ACLU doesn't miss a beat does it? Yeah, but the sad part is good folks keep caving by remaining silent.
18 posted on 07/15/2003 7:27:57 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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The plaques will be returned this week to their owners, the Evangelical Sisterhood of Mary in Phoenix, Oltrogge said. The signs were taken out last week.

I should have read the article first!

19 posted on 07/15/2003 7:28:33 PM PDT by StACase
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To: hope
"They are religious plaques on federal buildings and that's not allowed based
on the law," said Maureen Oltrogge, a Grand Canyon National Park spokeswoman.


So what's up with that carving of the Jewish guy with the two stone tablets
at The Supreme Court Building?

The ACLU doesn't touch that one, no sirree!

(that's not a knock on Moses...it's a slam to the weasel-NAMBLA-huggin'
monsters at the ACLU)
20 posted on 07/15/2003 7:29:32 PM PDT by VOA
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