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To: gcruse
There's the idea that homosexuals "recruit" heterosexuals. This is absurd because you can't change someone else's sexual orientation. If you don't believe that, try changing your own. If you can't do it to yourself, what chance does anyone else have to do it to you? My sexual orientation is not up for grabs, and I defy anyone to sweet-talk me into sleeping with men.

This statement here shows the ignorance of the author. The truth is, nobody really knows exactly how sexual preference works. This is just the icing on the heap of garbage that is the rest of the article.

2 posted on 07/15/2003 10:46:33 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: Paradox
So you're saying you can be talked out of your sexual orientation?
11 posted on 07/15/2003 10:56:28 AM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Paradox
And there's the idea that gays "choose" the "gay lifestyle" - whatever that is. As I've pointed out before on this page, if anyone can "choose" to be gay, so can you.
This is oversimplified. Indeed, it's a little more false than true: if one posits (as do I, and I believe as most scholars of the subject believe) that sexual orientation on the 7-point "Kinsey Scale" -- with 1 as purely heterose_xual and 7 as purely homose_xual -- in the population can be graphed as a leftward-smooshed Bell Curve, with the apex of the bell over about the "2" (which is a strongly heterose_xual leaning),

then, because it's a bell curve, most of those who feel same-se_x attractions will be bise_xual (Kinsey scales of 3, 4 or 5), not either purely (7) or almost entirely (6) homose_xual.

And isn't it at least fair to say that those with a bise_xual orientation DO have a "choice"?

Although se_xual orientation's dynamics aren't fully understood, doesn't it seem plausible that one's early choices/experiences, when positively reinforced over and over (orga_sms feel pretty good), can alter somewhat the orientation one otherwise might have had?
22 posted on 07/15/2003 11:03:33 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Paradox
Yes, they do recruit - but who they recruit is teenagers - primarily.

They have their "agenda" programs at school which causes the children to start to doubt who and what they are. I've seen that tactic totall destroy a very bright young girl. She was a friend's daughter.

The girl was so confused she tried to commit suicide several times. The family moved away and I've lost contact, but my friend was convinced it was rampant in California schools and she wanted to get her child out of here.
97 posted on 07/15/2003 12:28:03 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Paradox
The truth is, nobody really knows exactly how sexual preference works. This is just the icing on the heap of garbage that is the rest of the article.

Let's make this simple. When I want to know my sexual preference or "orientation", I look down the front of my pants and have an immediate preference/orientation towards the opposite sex because they have anatomy that was intelligently designed to work with mine. That's how sexual preference works. Anything else is just a choice that goes against our design, and calling it an "orientation" only serves to remove the personal responsibility for ignoring what was naturally intended.

Hat-Trick

246 posted on 07/16/2003 8:45:38 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (only criminals, their advocates, and tyrants need fear guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens)
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