Clintons Lose Whitewater Appeal

"Good God, how much lattitude do these folks get?

Far more than they deserve! Whitewater is just the tip of the ice burg.

Hillary's egregious remarks made in the past two weeks are tantamount to treason. The junior senator is pushing for a Socialist America by trying to divide and polarize Americans and our allies. She is fodder for the terrorist; they love her. America can't afford this woman she is just plain evil; bad mouthing ones country is hardly what she should be doing, she is an embarrassment. New Yorkers, you have opened Pandora's box with this woman, Marxism is her name! Recall her - throw her out into the gutter with other anti-American activists, that is where she belongs.

And Sheets-Byrd says that it's all "BUNK!! B.U.N.K. BUNK!!"

... or maybe Mr. and Mrs. Grifter will present their attorneys with real, gen-u-ine autographed copies of their books in lieu of fees!

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When Alex kills a woman during a rape, Alex is sent to prison.
When clinton rapes women, girls, his country and God knows what else. . .
not clinton but society is imprisoned,
imprisoned in clinton's
besmirched, semen-stained, feckless presidency.

A risible and repulsive result;
yet not even the punch line.

While Alex is conditioned in prison with aversion therapy,
transmuted into a moral robot who becomes nauseated
by the mere thought of sex and violence,
bill clinton and his Thought Police,
in a perverse reverse aversion,
have conditioned society's collective brain
into not mere acquiescence but twisted admiration.

In the end,
if clinton's arrogant, ruthless, reckless nature is restored to him,
it seems the joke will be on all of us,
for it will be a victory for infinite victimhood and irresponsibility,
for seduction, for violence, for nihilism, for anarchy.

We will have set apart clinton as the hero
by making his victims less human than he;
we will have allowed clinton to carefully estrange us from his victims
so that we can enjoy the rapes and the beatings
as much as clinton himself does.

Mia T, A CLOCKWORK ORANGE

With the number of "unexplained and mysterious" deaths following the Clintons around, I think we can the attys to write off as uncollectible. ;-)

OTOH, theh Clintons cannot accept this as a gift. Hmmm

They stole enough from the american people and took enough bribes they wont even miss a meesley 3.5million if they ever pay thier bill.I dought they will ever pay what they owe.Chi-coms will come through and pay it for them.

Most high-powered lawyers bill at $400-600/hour or more.

(Heck, JUNIOR associates at K-Street Law firms bill at 250/hr)

And no fractional hours: put in 1 second of work, bill an hour. . .

How long until the lawyers begin to sue for payment? I say 60 days from today.

Oh, I'm well aware of the ridiculous prices of DC lawyers. I know too many of them. Let me put the figures another way: At $400/hour, that's having an attorney work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for an entire year.

I'm not just blaming the Clinton lawyers here, either. Reports of Starr spending upwards of $40 million are a reflection of just how ridiculous the whole attorney fee mess is. $40 million is an awful lot of cash.

Bump

Here's the Fox News online story. A bit more complete than AP. However, I still haven't heard the story mentioned on air!

WASHINGTON — The federal government does not have to pay for the bulk of former president Bill Clinton (search) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (search)'s legal fees arising out of an independent counsel investigation into a failed Arkansas land deal, an appeals court ruled Tuesday.

The Clintons had sought reimbursement for more than $3.5 million in lawyer costs stemming from the Whitewater probe, which lasted more than seven years and cost taxpayers $70 million.

The Clintons were never indicted, but a 14-page decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia notes the independent investigation into Whitewater (search) and other matters ultimately resulted in 24 indictments, at least 16 convictions and the president's impeachment.

The special appeals panel was the same one that appointed Kenneth Starr (search) to take over the investigation in 1994 and then authorized him to investigate matters surrounding White House intern Monica Lewinsky (search).

The couple's lawyer, David Kendall, issued a statement saying that former President Ronald Reagan was reimbursed for 72 percent of his legal costs stemming from the Iran-Contra investigation, and his vice president George Bush was reimbursed for 59 percent of his costs in the same matter.

The Clintons, Kendall said, were reimbursed for only 2 percent of their request for Whitewater costs.

"The facts and the numbers speak for themselves," said Kendall. "The good news is that the partisan Whitewater smoke-and-mirrors investigation is finally over."

Sen. Clinton's most recent financial disclosure forms show the couple owed between $1.7 million and $6.5 million in outstanding legal bills.

The Clintons had asked to be reimbursed for the costs of responding to the Whitewater probe, arguing they would never have faced such an expensive, lengthy process if not for their positions as President and First Lady.

The appeals court rejected that argument, ruling the Clintons would have been investigated with or without the appointment of an independent counsel, and therefore should pay the overwhelming majority of those legal costs.

"We harbor no doubt that in the absence of the independent counsel statute the allegations surrounding the Clintons, Madison Guaranty (search), and Whitewater would have been similarly investigated and prosecuted by the Department of Justice," the panel wrote.

The Clintons can be reimbursed for $85,312.01 in legal fees relating to the review and response to the counsel's final report, because a federal prosecutor normally does not issue such a report, the judges ruled.

The ruling also found the independent counsel law was designed so that reimbursement for fees "should be difficult; that such fees will not be a common thing."

In 1996, Reagan was awarded $562,111 in legal fees after an appeals court said he had reason to believe he faced a "realistic possibility" of being indicted in the Iran-Contra investigation, which was led by an independent counsel. Reagan had sought over $777,000.

Bush was reimbursed $272,352 for his costs connected to the probe.

Nope...it's when they're paid....

The media ignores Hillary Rodham Clinton is a sitting Senator when they wish, it seems to me, and treat her as a former "First Lady". Otherwise microphones should be shoved in her face today asking how she could say in her book and in her recent interviews that Whitewater was nothing.

Directly from today's ruling:

Clintons Lose Appeal, will need to repay over $3 Million in Legal Fees

Excerpt:

In 1978, then-Arkansas Attorney General William Jefferson Clinton, his wife Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Jim and Susan McDougal purchased 230 acres of undeveloped property in Arkansas. To develop the property they formed a partnership known as the Whitewater Development Company. In 1982 Jim McDougal purchased a savings and loan and renamed it Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan Association. Over the next few years, Jim McDougal and Madison Guaranty were involved in questionable financial transactions, some of which benefitted Whitewater Development. Also during this time period Mrs. Clinton and one of her law partners, Webster Hubbell, performed legal work for Madison Guaranty involving at least one of the questionable transactions. These activities eventually drew the attention of federal bank regulators, who made a criminal referral in 1992 to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Little Rock. The referrals alleged that Jim and Susan McDougal had fraudulently misused bank accounts at Madison Guaranty to benefit entities owned by them, including Whitewater Development. Additional referrals soon followed, some of which concerned questionable campaign contributions to Mr. Clinton in 1985. The U.S Attorney’s Office undertook an investigation, and in late 1993 transferred the case to the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice.

She hasn't been cleared of anything. Just managed to stonewall.

Whatever...

Although you wouldn't know it from their schnorrer moves,
we're talking nanodrops...
in the clinton LIEbury slush-fund bucket...

And while on the topic of bucks and buckets...
had those two slime-buckets raped me...
I would impoverish them.

Oh wait... They DID rape me...

THE CLINTONS--AMERICA'S BIGGEST BLUNDER Hear Bush 41 Warn Us--October 19, 1992 *: Q ERTY6_ENTROPY BUMP!

hear

*Thanx to Cloud William for text and audio

LEHRER: President Bush, your closing statement, sir.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Three weeks from now--two weeks from tomorrow, America goes to the polls and you're going to have to decide who you want to lead this country ...

On foreign affairs, some think it's irrelevant. I believe it's not. We're living in an interconnected world...And if a crisis comes up, ask who has the judgment and the experience and, yes, the character to make the right decision?

And, lastly, the other night on character Governor Clinton said it's not the character of the president but the character of the presidency. I couldn't disagree more. Horace Greeley said the only thing that endures is character. And I think it was Justice Black who talked about great nations, like great men, must keep their word.

And so the question is, who will safeguard this nation, who will safeguard our people and our children? I need your support, I ask for your support. And may God bless the United States of America.

(Applause)


play tape

eyes wide shut EPILOGUE: (ADDITIONAL AUDIO) Hear Christopher Shays: "The bottom line: HE DID RAPE BROADDRICK."
When Alex kills a woman during a rape, Alex is sent to prison.
When clinton rapes women, girls, his country and God knows what else. . .
and kills? --- check out those fourscore-plus deaths, please!
And don't forget the wag-the-dog, desperately-seeking-a-legacy bombings,
or the cold-blooded Ricky Ray Rector execution---
not clinton but society is imprisoned,
imprisoned in clinton's
besmirched, semen-stained, feckless presidency.

A risible and repulsive result;
yet not even the punch line.
While Alex is conditioned in prison with aversion therapy,
transmuted into a moral robot who becomes nauseated
by the mere thought of sex and violence,
bill clinton and his Thought Police,
in a perverse reverse aversion,
have conditioned society's collective brain
into not mere acquiescence but twisted admiration.

In the end,
if clinton's arrogant, ruthless, reckless nature is restored to him,
it seems the joke will be on all of us,
for it will be a victory for infinite victimhood and irresponsibility,
for seduction, for violence, for nihilism, for anarchy.

We will have set apart clinton as the hero
by making his victims less human than he;
we will have allowed clinton to carefully estrange us from his victims
so that we can enjoy the rapes and the beatings
as much as clinton himself does.
Mia T, A CLOCKWORK ORANGE

The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime

GEFILTE FISHY

by Mia T

The clintons:
Meshuga, tref, tsuris.
Shopworn shtick, schmaltz, tsimmes.
Ganef, schlemiel, schlimazel.
A crooked putz with a big schnozzle.

Nudnik, nebbish, tummler.
Two chachkas on Geraldo's mantle, two schnorrers.
Kibitzer, kvetch with chutzpah.
Yenta, spieler, two stuffed kishkas.

BAGEL_{by Mia T}
A Katz's delicatessen bump.
(The best in New York City.)
(Send your boy in the Army a salami)
(It's a Jewish thang, ya wouldn't understand!)

--dennisw


Me, I prefer a New York bagel, some nova and a (fat-free) schmeer. . .

The bagel's attenuation, BTW,
has nothing whatever to do with triangulation,
Safire notwithstanding.
(The clintons analogize not to the bagel's substance but to its hole.)

The modern bagel is not trying to be a doughnut.
The doughnut-ization of the bagel is illusory.
The tough torus softened because of technology,
not demographics, or even demagogues. . .
It all boils down to boiling...
and, according to some bagel purists, New York water!

Real bagels are first boiled in a kettle,
then rinsed and cooled in a fresh water trough.
Only then are they baked.

The boiling process
reduces the starch and increases the gluten
to produce the real bagel's
characteristic leaden heft, golden brown thin crust and chewy center.

So-called bagel stores in recent years have skipped this very important step.
They steam the bagels in a rack oven
producing the ubiquitous,
(and quite-by-accident doughnut-esque),
ersatz bagel.

Why this happened:
Real-bagel makers are dying off and taking their trade secrets with them.
Real-bagel making is more time- and labor-intensive.
Boiling reduces shelf-life...
Would that we had parboiled the co-presidents, too...

^{Q ERTY8}missus clinton's REAL virtual office update bump

Jul 15, 4:20 PM EDT

Clintons Lose Whitewater Appeal

By DEVLIN BARRETT
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The federal government does not have to pay for the bulk of former president Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton's legal fees arising out of an independent counsel investigation into a failed Arkansas land deal, an appeals court ruled Tuesday.

The Clintons had sought reimbursement for more than $3.5 million in lawyer costs stemming from the Whitewater probe, which lasted more than seven years and cost taxpayers $70 million.

The Clintons were never indicted, but a 14-page decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia notes the independent investigation into Whitewater and other matters ultimately resulted in 24 indictments, at least 16 convictions and the president's impeachment.

The special appeals panel was the same one that appointed Kenneth Starr to take over the investigation in 1994 and then authorized him to investigate matters surrounding White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

The couple's lawyer, David Kendall, issued a statement saying that former President Ronald Reagan was reimbursed for 72 percent of his legal costs stemming from the Iran-Contra investigation, and his vice president George Bush was reimbursed for 59 percent of his costs in the same matter.

The Clintons, Kendall said, were reimbursed for only 2 percent of their request for Whitewater costs.

"The facts and the numbers speak for themselves," said Kendall. "The good news is that the partisan Whitewater smoke-and-mirrors investigation is finally over."

Sen. Clinton's most recent financial disclosure forms show the couple owed between $1.7 million and $6.5 million in outstanding legal bills.

The Clintons had asked to be reimbursed for the costs of responding to the Whitewater probe, arguing they would never have faced such an expensive, lengthy process if not for their positions as President and First Lady.

The appeals court rejected that argument, ruling the Clintons would have been investigated with or without the appointment of an independent counsel, and therefore should pay the overwhelming majority of those legal costs.

"We harbor no doubt that in the absence of the independent counsel statute the allegations surrounding the Clintons, Madison Guaranty, and Whitewater would have been similarly investigated and prosecuted by the Department of Justice," the panel wrote.

The Clintons can be reimbursed for $85,312.01 in legal fees relating to the review and response to the counsel's final report, because a federal prosecutor normally does not issue such a report, the judges ruled.

The ruling also found the independent counsel law was designed so that reimbursement for fees "should be difficult; that such fees will not be a common thing."

In 1996, Reagan was awarded $562,111 in legal fees after an appeals court said he had reason to believe he faced a "realistic possibility" of being indicted in the Iran-Contra investigation, which was led by an independent counsel. Reagan had sought over $777,000.

Bush was reimbursed $272,352 for his costs connected to the probe.

The Clintons were never indicted, but a 14-page decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia notes the independent investigation into Whitewater and other matters ultimately resulted in 24 indictments, at least 16 convictions and the president's impeachment.

I wonder if any of the Alphabet channels on TV will even mention this story,much less name the 16 Convictions of The Clinton Appointed Cronies.Surrounded by Manipulative Losers and Jailed as Manipulative Losers. (Well, I can only dream they would be capable of mentioning this story.)

The couple's lawyer, David Kendall, issued a statement saying that former President Ronald Reagan was reimbursed for 72 percent of his legal costs stemming from the Iran-Contra investigation, and his vice president George Bush was reimbursed for 59 percent of his costs in the same matter.
The Clintons, Kendall said, were reimbursed for only 2 percent of their request for Whitewater costs.

"The facts and the numbers speak for themselves," said Kendall.

Yes, the numbers do speak for themselves. Does Kendall think they look GOOD for his conniving clients?

LOL

See my excerpt at 54, directly from today's ruling, saying HRC was involved in doing legal work on at least one of those "questionable (we know what THAT means) transactions.

(I know we knew that, but it is satisfying to see it committed to paper in such a legal ruling.)

If any Republican cavorted with the likes of the McDougals, had associates like Hubbell who had been given a post at the DOJ and ended up in jail, or had a whiff of engaging in "questionable" activity such as this, they would have been deemed unfit for national public office long ago.

Mrs. Clinton ought to be called to account for this, but she won't. However, we can make note of it and take comfort that the record is being written--a record that no amount of spin will change.

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