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1 posted on 07/15/2003 6:06:13 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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2 posted on 07/15/2003 6:10:11 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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"Becomes"?

Where has this newspaper been for 100 years? The Confeds have always tried to blame Longstreet for Lee's moronic frontal assault at Gettysburg, then tried to pin the rest of the Confederates' failures on him. Sorry.

Lee lost more men, percentage, than ANY Union commander he faced, except at Fredericksburg, where some argue that Lee really wasn't in command. Hardly a sterling record, and one that doesn't come close to matching Sherman's.

3 posted on 07/15/2003 6:29:10 AM PDT by LS
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Was Longstreet in the movie "Gods & Generals?"
8 posted on 07/15/2003 7:04:19 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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When I saw the headline, I thought it was going to be about a certain James Franciscus detective show of the 70s on which a certain famed martial artist had a recurring role.
11 posted on 07/15/2003 7:12:01 AM PDT by william clark
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Lee was a capable, gracious general who gave orders that were too vague and made bold, strategic plans that were unsupported by the tactical resources he commanded. As long as he had outstanding subordinates and gave them latitude to act as they saw fit, and while the South still had adequate economic resources, he did ok. After a while, the resources against him began to tell and mere generalship was insufficient to make a difference. The North had some brave, clever generals, too.

Whoever made up the Confederate plan at Gettysburg - or, should I say, lack of a plan - was not brilliant, and I leave it at that.

As for where the war was won, well, it was won at sea, and you can take that to bank.

30 posted on 07/15/2003 8:14:23 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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If Lee et al. had the manpower and resources of the North how long would the war have lasted? Sherman, a great General, bwahahaha! I've always known Hanson is an ass, but the scope of his stupidity is stunning.
42 posted on 07/15/2003 9:43:14 AM PDT by jordan8
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The whole stupid bloody war would have never need been fought had that scoundrel Edward Rutledge -- the youngest signer of the Declaration of Independence -- not protested against Jefferson's language in freeing black slaves.
54 posted on 07/15/2003 2:57:40 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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Longstreet has long (no pun) taken the blame for Gettysburg that rightfully should have been placed on Lee.

Longstreet's one of my favorite Southern commanders. He was a brilliant tactician. If Lee had listened to him, at Gettysburg, they may have won.

I don't rate Gettysburg as significant a battle as others do (except for what it did for northern morale), but Longstreet was certainly in the right.

I think it's pathetic what the "Cult of Lee" has done to his reputation over the years.

114 posted on 07/17/2003 11:43:21 AM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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122 posted on 07/17/2003 7:21:50 PM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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He may have described the battles accurately, but his claims for himself were excessive and self-serving...

I agree with the second part of the author's statement, but find the first laughable. Before I had studied history in depth on my own, I too had fallen victim to the Longstreet martyr myth. The battle reports of his own field commanders after Gettysburg expose the "excuses" and "reasons" in his memoirs for what they are - selfserving lies. He was brilliant at Chickamauga, and I have long stated that he deserved a statue at that location. I have also long stated that he should have been shot following Gettysburg for his repeated and willfull disobedience of Lee's instructions in regards to the timing and purpose of attacks. A good example is the attack on roundtop. It is often repeated by victims of pro-Longstreet revisionism how Hood wanted to reposition so he could mount a flank attack instead of a frontal assault, but that Longstreet said Lee insisted they attack "as planned". What they don't realise is that if Longstreet had not delayed the attack for over five hours, Hood would have been mounting a flank attack, which is exactly what Lee had planned and ordered in the first place. During those many many hours of delay the union extended their flank and Longstreet did NOT report this fact back to Lee. What Hood wanted to do is what Lee had planned all along, and what would have happened if Longstreet had not needlessly delayed and delayed. Longstreet, of course, never saw fit to mention this fact after the battle. Another good example of the Longstreet myth is "his plan" at Gettysburg. According to the union commanders' reports and letters, what they expected Lee to try and do is exactly what Longstreet's bemoaned plan was. It's EXACTLY what they were most prepared to defend against if it were attempted. Another little tidbit that Longstreet fans and "historians" forget to mention.

143 posted on 07/19/2003 8:41:26 AM PDT by thatdewd
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