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THAT URANIUM STORY
NRO ^ | 7/14/2003 | David Frum

Posted on 07/14/2003 8:59:22 PM PDT by Utah Girl

On the ground floor of the White House is the Map Room, so-called because it was here that Franklin Roosevelt used to get his briefings on the progress of World War II. Over the mantel is the last map FDR saw before his death. It shows American, British, and Soviet troops racing toward Berlin. It also shows a frightening concentration of German forces in the Nazis’ last redoubt, the mountains of Bavaria.

We now know of course that this last redoubt did not exist. American intelligence had been deceived. And it’s possible that policymakers also deceived themselves. Roosevelt, for reasons of his own, wanted to let the Russians have the honor – and suffer the losses – of an assault on Berlin. The belief in the last redoubt was a very useful belief: It justified FDR’s wish to avoid joining the battle for Berlin.

Intelligence is a very uncertain business. And there’s no doubt that consumers of intelligence tend to be quicker to accept uncertain information that confirms their prejudices than uncertain information that calls those prejudices into question. Since consumers of intelligence are usually prejudiced in favor of doing little, most of the time they prefer intelligence that errs on the side of minimizing dangers.

9/11 changed the way American officials looked at the world. So when they got reports that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium in Niger, you can understand why they took the information seriously. That information has since turned out to be false – and its falsity has generated a major political controversy, as bitter-end opponents of this president and the war on terror try to exploit the administration’s error.

The controversy turns on the fact that some in the CIA doubted the story from the start. Their warnings were apparently disregarded, that is assuming that they were adequately communicated in the first place. Why? One reason may be that the CIA’s warnings on Iraq matters had lost some of their credibility in the 1990s. The agency was regarded by many in the Bush administration as reflexively and implacably hostile to any activist policy in Iraq. Those skeptics had come to believe that the agency was slanting its information on Iraq in order to maneuver the administration into supporting the agency’s own soft-line policies.

So when the Bush administration got skeptical news on the Niger uranium matter, it would not be surprising if mid-level policymakers mentally filed it under the heading “more of the same from the CIA,” filed it, and discounted it. The tendency was redoubled by the origin of the Niger-debunking report: Joseph C. Wilson. For more about him, see Clifford May's important post in last week's NRO. The result was the strange formulation in the State of the Union speech, in which the Niger story was cited – but attributed to British intelligence.

The story is an embarrassment for all concerned. But it no more undercuts the case for the Iraq war than FDR’s mistake in 1945 retroactively discredited the case for World War II. The United States did not overthrow Saddam Hussein because he was buying uranium in Niger. It overthrow him because he was a threat to the United States, to his neighbors, to his own people, and to the peace of a crucial region of the globe. All of that is just as true as it was on the day the President delivered his speech containing the errant 16 words – and the war is just as right and justified today as it was then.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: britsstandbystory; cia; davidfrum; frostedyellowcake; intelligence; josephwilson; mycousinknowsclay; niger; opus; sotu; uranium; wmd
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To: Dane
Like this thread needs a bump, I say.
661 posted on 07/15/2003 5:09:10 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: A Navy Vet
Does that include deists?

As a Christian, my answer is "yes", but I am currently speaking only about what the poster has said concerning himself.

What difference does it make to you?

662 posted on 07/15/2003 5:11:07 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Miss Marple
That's a fair position, but since JR hasn't banned criticism of all things Republican, as far as I can see, then he gets his say also. Or am I wrong?

663 posted on 07/15/2003 5:11:24 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (Fedgov is the problem, not the solution)
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To: Howlin
Who's stopping you?

How many times today have you and your cronies griped about all the "DU plants" and "people working against FR" and "people helping the democrat agenda" and "people saying bad things about your dear president"?

Maybe you don't even know you're doing it...

But I doubt it.

664 posted on 07/15/2003 5:11:25 PM PDT by OWK
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To: justshe
Since you are posting my comments across threads... It would be a common courtesy to ping me to them.

Thanks for the opportunity to show off your true stripe.



665 posted on 07/15/2003 5:12:04 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: OWK
Such as

Such as your pitiful whining and ad hominems to Jim.

To: Jim Robinson

Go git 'em Deputy Fife.

He don't always say good stuff about the republicans.

So he must be one o'them dem-o-rats er sumpthin.

15 posted on 07/15/2003 3:32 AM PDT by OWK
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You read like a pity party that Jim Robinson doesn't follow OWK, 110%.

666 posted on 07/15/2003 5:13:17 PM PDT by Dane
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To: OWK
I'm done for the night.



667 posted on 07/15/2003 5:13:20 PM PDT by Area51
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To: Dane
There is one thing I can't stand about ONE WHO'S PROVOKED a 14 thread fest, and that's victim-hood. I've seen it ONCE TOO OFTEN.
668 posted on 07/15/2003 5:14:02 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("We are facing something familiar, but they are facing something new." GWB 8/3/2000)
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To: budwiesest
I wasn't going to bump it either, but the paranoid goofball contingent has shown up further downthread, and I intend to go in harm's way ;)
669 posted on 07/15/2003 5:14:39 PM PDT by strela ("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
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To: strela
ROFLMAO!
670 posted on 07/15/2003 5:15:45 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dane
Such as your pitiful whining and ad hominems to Jim.

Ahhhh.. you accuse me of whining, and then post a poke at Jim's rib, and then witch your complaint to "attacks".

Maybe no one will notice.

671 posted on 07/15/2003 5:16:31 PM PDT by OWK
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To: Area51
I'm done for the night


672 posted on 07/15/2003 5:16:52 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Boy, you really told him...
673 posted on 07/15/2003 5:17:31 PM PDT by OWK
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis; OWK
1. I was wondering why his statements were disqualified on those grounds. Since I'm not a Christian, are my remarks automatically disqualified from a political debate? No disrespect intended.

2. Although I disagree with some of his libertarian positions, OWK is wide-read, has studied our Constitutional history and documents, and I think he adds much to a political debate. Other than that, he's kind of a know-it-all, but then he admits that right up front - doncha Dan?
674 posted on 07/15/2003 5:19:41 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (Fedgov is the problem, not the solution)
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To: OWK
Ahhhh.. you accuse me of whining, and then post a poke at Jim's rib, and then witch your complaint to "attacks".

Maybe no one will notice

You sure did. I surmise you don't like what you see in the mirror.

675 posted on 07/15/2003 5:20:59 PM PDT by Dane
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To: A Navy Vet
Not only admit it, but savor it as a profoundly enjoyable character flaw.
676 posted on 07/15/2003 5:21:25 PM PDT by OWK
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To: Dane
you accuse me of whining, and then post a poke at Jim's rib

Well, now I'm totally confused.....how can you using OWK's words about Jim be constured as you taking a poke at Jim?

677 posted on 07/15/2003 5:21:58 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: strela
paranoid goofball contingent

Well, if 2004 comes down to picking between socialism dark and socialism lite, put me down for lite, however, beneath the top of the ticket I'll be voting to send 'new' blood to serve in public office, and they won't be R's or D's.

678 posted on 07/15/2003 5:22:09 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: A Navy Vet
Other than that, he's(OWK) kind of a know-it-all,

Bill Clinton thinks of himself the same way.

679 posted on 07/15/2003 5:22:48 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Utah Girl
Very good article. We just cannot take chances these days after what happened here, and it is just appalling that the democrats and their lapdog media are undermining our security and the morale of our troops just so they can bring down our President for doing his job. They can never redeem themselves for this, NEVER!
680 posted on 07/15/2003 5:23:43 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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