Posted on 07/14/2003 8:59:22 PM PDT by Utah Girl
On the ground floor of the White House is the Map Room, so-called because it was here that Franklin Roosevelt used to get his briefings on the progress of World War II. Over the mantel is the last map FDR saw before his death. It shows American, British, and Soviet troops racing toward Berlin. It also shows a frightening concentration of German forces in the Nazis last redoubt, the mountains of Bavaria.
We now know of course that this last redoubt did not exist. American intelligence had been deceived. And its possible that policymakers also deceived themselves. Roosevelt, for reasons of his own, wanted to let the Russians have the honor and suffer the losses of an assault on Berlin. The belief in the last redoubt was a very useful belief: It justified FDRs wish to avoid joining the battle for Berlin.
Intelligence is a very uncertain business. And theres no doubt that consumers of intelligence tend to be quicker to accept uncertain information that confirms their prejudices than uncertain information that calls those prejudices into question. Since consumers of intelligence are usually prejudiced in favor of doing little, most of the time they prefer intelligence that errs on the side of minimizing dangers.
9/11 changed the way American officials looked at the world. So when they got reports that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium in Niger, you can understand why they took the information seriously. That information has since turned out to be false and its falsity has generated a major political controversy, as bitter-end opponents of this president and the war on terror try to exploit the administrations error.
The controversy turns on the fact that some in the CIA doubted the story from the start. Their warnings were apparently disregarded, that is assuming that they were adequately communicated in the first place. Why? One reason may be that the CIAs warnings on Iraq matters had lost some of their credibility in the 1990s. The agency was regarded by many in the Bush administration as reflexively and implacably hostile to any activist policy in Iraq. Those skeptics had come to believe that the agency was slanting its information on Iraq in order to maneuver the administration into supporting the agencys own soft-line policies.
So when the Bush administration got skeptical news on the Niger uranium matter, it would not be surprising if mid-level policymakers mentally filed it under the heading more of the same from the CIA, filed it, and discounted it. The tendency was redoubled by the origin of the Niger-debunking report: Joseph C. Wilson. For more about him, see Clifford May's important post in last week's NRO. The result was the strange formulation in the State of the Union speech, in which the Niger story was cited but attributed to British intelligence.
The story is an embarrassment for all concerned. But it no more undercuts the case for the Iraq war than FDRs mistake in 1945 retroactively discredited the case for World War II. The United States did not overthrow Saddam Hussein because he was buying uranium in Niger. It overthrow him because he was a threat to the United States, to his neighbors, to his own people, and to the peace of a crucial region of the globe. All of that is just as true as it was on the day the President delivered his speech containing the errant 16 words and the war is just as right and justified today as it was then.
Answers address the postulates put forward in a question.
Yet a third review of the post.
Still nothing resembling an answer.
Well why don't you scream to the rooftops your candidate's(Ron Paul) opposition to the Iraqi operation instead of going after Jim Robinson and throwing ad hominems.
I don't think you have the guts to be pro-Ron Paul for one day on FR. You are afraid of the rightful criticism on political issues that would be directed at him and you.
So you go the cowards route of being anti-bush, IMO.
It's hard for us "old biddies" to keep the terms straight. LOL!
Kindly refer me to ANY news article that reports that that law has been PASSED by both houses of Congress -- and signed by this president, which is what OWK has said repeatedly on this thread.
Because he was right.
It would look just like Liberty Post looks right now.
Again... I believe that legislation, in any shape or form, is the responsibility of Congress... that's why I lay the blame at their door. This is the point in which we disagree.
The point is, you say he does not bear any responsibility. And that's bullcrap. But my saying so is somehow putting words in your mouth. Telling.
If you need me to state my position yet again, just let me know. If I say it enough, perhaps (not holding out too much hope) perhaps it will sink in.
Signed,
One of the "old biddies"
It would look just like Liberty Post looks right now.
Old Biddie free?
Fine, then post on how Ron Paul was right to oppose the Iraqi operation.
Your focus on being anti-Bush, shows lack of conviction in your candidate, Ron Paul, and a cowardice to promote his position, IMO.
Talk about putting words in someone's mouth. Please show me EXACTLY where I said that on this thread.
Uh oh what?
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