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Clemens Added to American League All-Star Squad
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | July 14, 2003 | Anon Reuters Sports Stringer

Posted on 07/14/2003 7:29:02 PM PDT by Pharmboy

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Future Hall of Fame pitcher Roger Clemens discovered Monday that he would get his all-star goodbye after all when he was named to the American League (news) team for the mid-summer classic.

Clemens, a six-time Cy Young Award winner who is set to retire at the end of the current season, was added to the AL squad for Tuesday's game by commissioner Bud Selig as a replacement for Oakland's Barry Zito.

It was a ninth All-Star selection for the 40-year-old, who had his 300th win and his 4,000th career strikeout earlier this season but was not voted into the squad by the fans or players and missed out on selection by AL manager Mike Scioscia.

A modest 8-6 with a 3.68 ERA this season, Clemens's omission opened a debate among baseball fans, many of whom argued that a place should have been found on the AL roster for one of the game's greatest pitchers of all time.

It was also announced that Esteban Loaiza (11-5) of the hometown Chicago White Sox (news) would get the starting pitching assignment for the AL Tuesday, while Jason Schmidt (9-4) of the San Francisco Giants (news) will start for the National League (news).


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; baseball; bugsyselig; fatpantload
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Affirmative action comes to the All Star Game!! All the Yankee fans can watch their fave throw at batter's heads! Go ahead...make my day! I've got my asbestos underwear on...and it has a METS logo on it (I won't tell you if it's on the front or the back, though!)
1 posted on 07/14/2003 7:29:02 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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2 posted on 07/14/2003 7:31:01 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Pharmboy

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3 posted on 07/14/2003 7:43:16 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
Yeah...I didn't even MENTION throwing sharp pieces of ash at the opponents. Thanks for reminding me.
4 posted on 07/14/2003 7:45:59 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Pharmboy
It's billed as an All-Star game but has come to be a "has been" and "popularity" game. And MLB owners wonder why the fan base does not want to see the millionaire crybabies. Clements - was once good, but now a "has been."
5 posted on 07/14/2003 7:50:56 PM PDT by saltshaker
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To: Victoria Delsoul; bootless; BluesDuke; rockfish59; mrustow; rdb3; John R. (Bob) Locke; CatOwner; ...
Affirmative action comes to the All Star Game!! All the Yankee fans can watch their fave throw at batter's heads! Go ahead...make my day! I've got my asbestos underwear on...and it has a METS logo on it (I won't tell you if it's on the front or the back, though!)

I'm no Yankee fan, but first-ballot Hall of Famers like Clemens merit All Star selection on their career numbers. Selections based on first-half flash in the pans are boring.

I'm not even going to comment on your Armando Benitez Underoos, other than to say withouit the Affirmative Action program mandating at least one All Star from each team, your hapless Metsies would have been deservedly skunked.


Pinging the baseball list

6 posted on 07/14/2003 7:52:15 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
...and DESERVEDLY skunked also ('cept mebbe for Jeremy Burnitz). I am a realist: that's why I hate the Yanks and know what Clemens is all about...
7 posted on 07/14/2003 7:58:12 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: saltshaker
They should go back and let the baseball writers pick the All-Stars...
8 posted on 07/14/2003 7:59:15 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Pharmboy
Why?

Did he break the record for 300 win attempts?

9 posted on 07/14/2003 7:59:18 PM PDT by StatesEnemy
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To: StatesEnemy
LOL!! And I think the fat pant load probably DID break that record...
10 posted on 07/14/2003 8:00:36 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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Monday, July 14
 
Clemens, Zito: Aged and confused

By Jim Caple
ESPN.com

The good news is the pitcher who belonged on the All-Star team all along, Roger Clemens, will be here. The bad news is the league apparently didn't bother telling the pitcher he replaces.

Barry Zito
Barry Zito answers questions at Monday's media day about not pitching in the All-Star Game.

Instead, last year's Cy Young award winner, Barry Zito, learned he was being dropped from the active All-Star roster when reporters told him during a news conference that commissioner Bud Selig had just revealed the roster change on The Dan Patrick Show. Zito, who remains on the "official'' All-Star roster, did not appear angry or hurt at the news but he was definitely confused.

"It's like you're with a girl and a friend comes up and tells you that she doesn't want to date you anymore,'' he said while sitting in hotel ballroom with the rest of the American League All-Stars.

"There is nothing wrong physically,'' Zito went on. "I'm not hurt. I haven't got official word yet but that's what everyone is telling me. I just want to know the reason. Is it because someone in Oakland said something? Or is it because (Major League Baseball) doesn't have confidence in me pitching on one-day rest?"

How could such a thing possibly happen? As if you need to ask after last year's All-Star Game ended in a tie?

According to major-league representatives, the Athletics contacted Major League Baseball late Sunday and said they didn't want Zito pitching in the All-Star Game because he threw 106 pitches earlier in the day. MLB then tracked down Clemens (who had flown to his Houston home after Sunday's game) to see if he was available to play and didn't find that out for sure until Monday's news conferences began. And all the while, major-league officials said, they simply assumed that Oakland had informed Zito already.

We told him that it was prudent that he didn't pitch and that the A's were going to have Mark Mulder available for two innings and Keith Foulke available for one. That was three innings from our pitching staff and that was sufficient.
Ken Macha

Contacted by reporters by phone, Oakland general manager Billy Beane and manager Ken Macha both said that Zito was told Sunday the team had decided he shouldn't pitch in the game. (They did not, however, take the blame for giving President Bush inaccurate information on Iraq's nuclear arms program.)

"We told him that it was prudent that he didn't pitch and that the A's were going to have Mark Mulder available for two innings and Keith Foulke available for one,'' Macha told a reporter by phone. "That was three innings from our pitching staff and that was sufficient.''

"Barry was informed of that decision and acquiesced,'' MLB vice president Sandy Alderson said. "That was the information relayed to us, and we acted on that information."

So what's the full story? Did Major League Baseball willy-nilly decide to put Clemens on the roster at the last moment without regard to the feelings of one of their brightest young stars? Did Zito somehow misunderstand when his manager, pitching coach and general manger told him he wouldn't be pitching in the game (What part of 'No' don't you understand?). Or did the Athletics somehow forget to tell their Cy Young pitcher that they didn't want him competing in the All-Star Game, letting him instead fly 3,000 miles roundtrip to sit on the bench?

None of those possibilities sounds particularly believable but remember, we're talking about baseball, where any sort of public-relations blunder is possible.

The only thing that is certain is that communication left something to be desired.

The frustrating part is this entire situation could have been avoided so easily. Clemens, who plans to retire after this season, should have been named to the original team, both for his season and career. And the Athletics, who have had their rotation set for some time, could have decided last week that Zito shouldn't pitch in the All-Star Game if he was pitching Sunday, giving baseball plenty of time to adjust.

Not that Sunday's start should prevent Zito from pitching in the All-Star Game. While pitchers often drop out of the All-Star Game after a Sunday start, Tuesday is Zito's day to pitch on the side anyway and he says he could pitch an inning. Zito threw only one pitch in last year's contest, a workload he could easily sustain.

After all, Florida rookie Dontrelle Willis pitched Sunday and threw 102 pitches but he will be available for Tuesday's game.

Or, at least, as far we know, he will be available.


11 posted on 07/14/2003 8:00:45 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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Wow...that makes this even worse. Thanks.
12 posted on 07/14/2003 8:05:35 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Pharmboy
Screw that pussy Yankee-Az Diamondback
13 posted on 07/14/2003 8:08:52 PM PDT by Az Joe
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To: saltshaker
Clemens has an awful lot of strikeouts this year for a "has-been." Eight wins at the break is pretty darn respectable. Not such a bad ERA, either.

I remember talking to a Boston fan after the 1996 season. He was all, "Clemens is washed up." I believe the Boston GM felt the same way, the fool. I reminded him that Clemens had sruck out 20 in one game the previous year - pretty good for someone people were running down so much. But some folks just don't like Clemens, which is too bad for them, unable to appreciate the best pitcher of this generation. To Steinbrenner's credit, he saw quality there, and Clemens led the Yankees to championships after he was "washed up."

People continue to underestimate him now. Clemens is no has-been.

14 posted on 07/14/2003 8:14:43 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Sabertooth
Good post, Saber. Thank you.
15 posted on 07/14/2003 8:21:10 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: KellyAdmirer
I, for one Clemens hater, appreciate his pitching brilliance, and I agree: he is the best of his generation. I just CAN'T STAND HIM the way I couldn't stand Ali or Barry Bonds.
16 posted on 07/14/2003 8:23:59 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Sabertooth
It's STILL affirmative action...and it STILL stinks.
17 posted on 07/14/2003 8:26:01 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Sabertooth
I'm no Yankee fan, but first-ballot Hall of Famers like Clemens merit All Star selection on their career numbers. Selections based on first-half flash in the pans are boring.

That's welfare for the rich! Based on their career numbers, "first-ballot Hall of Famers like Clemens merit" induction, period. Why should someone who has been -- and will be -- showered with awards and recognition for what he has accomplished, be recognized for what he HASN'T accomplished, while players not going to the Hall don't even get recognition for what they HAVE accomplished? Do we send donations to Bill Gates, in recognition of his career-long talent for making money?

18 posted on 07/14/2003 10:02:51 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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Because that's who the fans want to see, in part.

That's why Bench and Yazstremski were tabbed one year. That's why Mays and Aaron were All Stars in the twilights of their careers.



19 posted on 07/14/2003 10:07:46 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: saltshaker
Clemons won the Cy Young just 19 months ago....and has 8 wins this year. If the bullpen hadn't blown two consecutive saves when he was going for 300, he would have 10 wins...possibly more. Zito also has 8 wins this year...why does he deserve to go? They both have the same number of wins. Clemons has more K's. I don't see how exactly he is a has-been.
20 posted on 07/14/2003 10:10:40 PM PDT by ilgipper
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