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Commodore 64 Makes a Comeback
PCWorld ^ | 07/14/03 | David Legard

Posted on 07/14/2003 6:40:59 AM PDT by bedolido

Popular computers, games from the 1980s will be relaunched.

Tulip Computers, which owns the Commodore brand name, plans to relaunch the brand to take advantage in an upsurge of interest in the obsolete Commodore 64 (C64) computer and its 1980s-era games, the company said in a statement Friday.

Tulip estimates that there are still 6 million Commodore users, who can choose from a range of 6,000 games which were developed for the system.

Tulip is working with Ironstone Partners, which will handle all sales of Commodore 64-related products worldwide and take over the main C64 Web portal. Enthusiasts have made over 10 million game downloads, the site owners have said.

Unauthorized use of the Commodore name by other organizations will be stopped, Tulip said in the statement.

Playing Games Even if the Commodore 64 hardware is obsolete, enthusiasts have written emulators for Windows PCs, Apple Macintoshes, and now PocketPC-based PDAs to enable original Commodore games to run on those systems.

Commodore was one of the pioneers of the PC industry, entering the market in 1977 with its 8-bit PET (Personal Electronic Transactor). The C64 was launched in 1982, followed a few years later by the Amiga.

Slowly, the crucial graphics edge that these systems enjoyed was eroded by successive improvements in Microsoft's Windows OS, and Commodore went into liquidation in 1994. Tulip, based in Amersfoort, Netherlands, bought the Commodore brand name and other assets in 1997.


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To: TC Rider; angkor
My favorite Tramiel story

I occasionally still each lunch with this guy. :-) Dr. Tramiel and one of my colleagues are best of friends.

Dr. Tramiel has a PhD in Astrophysics from Stanford BTW.

121 posted on 07/14/2003 10:42:13 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Physicist
I even have a Fresnel lens to magnify the 5" screen, à la Brazil.

Whooohooo! :-) Collector piece!

122 posted on 07/14/2003 10:44:58 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: satan
Next the Commodore 64. Did anybody else have the Sears Roebuck electric typewriter that had a built-in port for a Commodore? What speed!!

Nope. Had the KING! "Epson MX-80".:-)

123 posted on 07/14/2003 10:46:05 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: razorbak; bvw
What "computing" could you do with an Altair?

You would be amazed. It was a standard S-100 bus that a great deal of cards were sold for. I remember soldering my first 64k memory board together for an S-100 machine. Floppy drives (8"), terminal, a "Jade board" Z-80 processor (replaced the 8080) and you had quite a powerful computer. You could (in some instances) out perform a PDP-8.

124 posted on 07/14/2003 10:51:08 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RightWhale
He died, the company died.

Fred did it.

125 posted on 07/16/2003 12:55:52 PM PDT by angkor
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To: bedolido
Bump for later geekdom...
126 posted on 07/16/2003 12:58:55 PM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
BUMP
127 posted on 07/16/2003 1:08:19 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Don’t tell Jack this story, but I worked for one of his distributors, and it ran a wild west sort of business.

They had a healthy trans-shipment business to Europe (e.g., the grey market). A truckload of PETs would be unloaded at our warehouse in the evening, and be re-labeled and re-loaded for Europe the next day. I think the prices and demand were much higher in Europe, and it was a lot of money for a small amount of work. We’re talking entire semis full of gear.

The owner also ran one of the larger mailorder computer businesses in the country. If you bought mailorder from Compute! or BYTE, you probably bought some of our stuff. It was legally and anonymously a separate business entity in another state, and technically in the name of a brother-in-law.

Funny thing is that the brother-in-law walked into the office one day, and announced that the mailorder business was his, “how much do you want to pay for it.” A lot of yelling ensued.

Atari and Commodore and all the Japanese companies had a tendency to overlook these shennagins, whereas Apple kept pretty tight control over its pipeline. At the time my perception was than Jack wanted to move boxes no matter what, while Steve Jobs wanted to maintain ironfisted control.

Last time I saw Jack was in an Italian restaurant in midtown Manhattan. The other guys are still lurking around the business, all multimillionaires.

128 posted on 07/16/2003 1:16:18 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Brett66
Can't believe Commodore didn't sell millions of those.

Actually, they did. About 3.5 million Amiga Computers were sold, if I recall correctly.

And the screen resolution wasn't 320x200 although that was available for some games, it was 640X400 (US NTSC) and 640X480 (PAL), essentially the same as a video screen, with the refresh equal to a standard video... which made it great for TV use.

The Amiga offered 4096 colors in standard mode when the IBM PC offered only FOUR and the Macintosh just Two (B&W). In a special "hold and modify" mode, the Amiga could display almost 56,000 colors on a static screen. The "Copper" chip allowed something that isn't duplicated to this day: the ability to change screen resolutions in mid screen, for example the top of the screen could be 640x400 the middle 320X200 and return again to 640x400. You could also play games with the interlacing and gain even higher resolutions at the expense of a headache from the screen flicker.

The Amiga was built from the ground up to support hardware multi-tasking and featured pre-emptive multitasking with re-entrant libraries instead of the cooperative multitasking used later by both PC and Mac... only recently (last five years) have those platforms embraced pre-emptive multitasking and re-entrant libraries.

The Amiga was far more powerful than any other microcomputer on the market in its day and even for several years after it ceased manufacture.

129 posted on 07/16/2003 7:21:37 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: bedolido
The C-64 was a great game computer and is responible for much wasted time and money in my life! (c;
130 posted on 07/16/2003 7:26:15 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: adam_az
I took a computer programming class using Commodore Pets a million years ago! The whiz-kids in the class had some kind of mainframe computer hooked up with a printer in the room and were playing a primitive role-playing game, it was so cool! heh heh

Man that was a whole different world...
131 posted on 07/16/2003 7:35:32 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: bedolido
I used to have an old Atari 130XE. My parents gave it away without my knowledge or permission when I left for college. I'm still very angry about that.
132 posted on 07/16/2003 7:44:32 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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To: Spiff
So Gore invented Compuserve as well...
133 posted on 07/16/2003 7:48:11 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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To: Swordmaker
Hey, I remember a debugger for the C-64 that used that mid-screen vga change mode trick. I can't remember if it was one I wrote myself or borrowed and modified. Hmmm ... maybe it was another computer entirely, I was doing a bunch of video programming those days. The DEC Rainbow was a PC that used the NEC video chip with vectorization lists. Something you didn't see on the IBM PC for a few years -- and then from CAD video vendors.

IBM knew all about the NEC chip too. The company I was with then had shipped IBM some systems that used it. They could have used it in the PC, but no --they had that crazy-stupid CGA scheme.

134 posted on 07/16/2003 7:54:06 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Republican Wildcat
Republican:
Does anyone remember the "Amstead" computers. I still have two out in the garage. One is a computer, the other is a word processor. This is the first computer to use a 3 1/2 inch disk, but not the ones we use now. Strange outfit.

The very best to you and yours.

Semper Fi
Tommie

135 posted on 07/16/2003 8:08:48 PM PDT by Texican
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To: angkor
Cool Story. I wont tell! :-)

Last time I saw him was about 6 months ago. Indeed they are all multimillionaires. I cartainly am not! LOL!

136 posted on 07/17/2003 1:24:01 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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