Posted on 07/14/2003 1:31:45 AM PDT by xzins
U.S. forces rolled over the Iraqi military in just weeks.
The plans seemed flawless, and the courage of the soldiers and Marines unflappable.
But with the dust settling and the adrenaline rush of battle now subsiding military officials are finding some weapons performed as advertised. Others, however, let troops down when they needed them most.
Army and Marine officials recently released after-action reports compiling what was right and what was wrong about the small arms with which troops squared off against Iraqi forces. Soldiers and Marines rated the rifles and pistols they carried into battle, and not all got perfect scores.
Soldiers and Marines relied on variants of the M-16 rifle. The M-16, in service since the early days of the Vietnam War, was highly criticized then as unreliable, often jamming during firefights. Soldiers who participated in Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan also complained the M-4 variant, a shorter version of the M-16, lacked what they needed in combat.
In Iraq, reviews were mixed.
Most soldiers carried the M-4 into battle in Iraq and were very satisfied with this weapon, according a report from the Armys Special Operations Battle Lab. It performed well in a demanding environment, especially given the rail system and accompanying sensors and optics.
Marines carried the older and larger M-16A2 rifles, but a report from the Marine Corps Systems Command Liaison Team stated: Many Marines commented on desire for the shorter weapon vice the longer M-16s.
One Marine told the team that the shorter rifle would have been better in confined urban battle. Some also said the smaller rifle would have been easier to handle when climbing in and out of trucks and armored vehicles.
Several Marines even opted to use the AK-47s that had been captured from Iraqi weapons caches, the Marine report stated. Others were trading rifles for pistols to go into buildings to allow for mobility in confined spaces.
Marine Corps officials announced late last year that infantry forces would soon switch from the M-16A2 to the M-16A4, a heavier-barreled version of the long rifle with a rail system like the M-4. Stocks of the weapons, however, arrived in Kuwait too late to be fielded and sighted for battle. Most stayed in storage, but some weapons were delivered to Marines under a plan to initially field one per squad.
A number of M-16A4 rifles, fitted with a 4X scope, were given to Marine rifleman. The combination, Marines said, allowed them to identify targets at a distance, under poor conditions, and maintained ability to quickly acquire the target in close-in environment[s].
But not all soldiers and Marines were enamored with the performance of their rifles. Complaints centered on lack of range and reliability problems.
The most significant negative comment was reference [to] the M-4s range, the Army report stated. In the desert, there were times where soldiers needed to assault a building that may be 500+ meters distant across open terrain. They did not feel the M-4 provided effective fire at that range.
Safety was another concern. The M-4s bolt can ride forward when the selector switch is on safe, allowing the firing pin to strike a bullets primer.
Numerous soldiers showed us bullets in their magazines that had small dents in the primer, the Army report said.
Reliability complaints also found fault with the oil soldiers and Marines used to clean their weapons. In the dusty, sandstorm-plagued battlefields of Iraq, weapons became clogged with sand, trapped by the heavy oil, called CLP.
Several Washington Post articles recalling the night the 507th Maintenance Company was ambushed recounted moments when soldiers in the convoy, including Pfc. Jessica Lynch, battled their weapons to continue fighting Iraqi irregular forces.
In the swirling dust, soldiers rifles jammed, one article reported. Pfc. Patrick Miller, 23, from suburban Wichita, began shoving rounds into his rifle one at a time, firing single shots at enemies swarming all around.
We had no working weapons, Sgt. James Riley told The Washington Post. We couldnt even make a bayonet charge we would have been mowed down.
The Armys after-action found more soldiers unhappy with CLP.
The sand is as fine as talcum powder, the report stated. The CLP attracted the sand to the weapon.
Unlike the soldiers reports after Afghanistan, Marines in Iraq said the 5.56 mm round fired from the M-16 definitely answered the mail and as long as shots were in the head or chest, they went down. The Marine reports said many were initially skeptical of the small rounds performance against the heavier 7.62 mm round fired from AK-47s. There were reports of enemy being shot and not going down, but most were referencing non-lethal shots on extremities.
Still, there were reports of targets receiving shots in the vitals and not going down. These stories could not be described, but are of the rare superhuman occurrences that defy logic and caliber of round.
The report said Marines asked for a heavier-grained round up to 77 grains.
The M-16 series of rifles fires a 55-grain bullet, a projectile that weighs slightly more than three-and-a-half grams. Some servicemembers believe a heavier-grained bullet would carry more energy downrange, creating greater knockdown power.
Both soldiers and Marines also noted problems with the M-9 9 mm pistol.
There was general dissatisfaction with this weapon, the Army report said. First and foremost, soldiers do not feel it possesses sufficient stopping power.
Soldiers asked for a tritium glow-in-the-dark sight for night firing.
But soldiers and Marines alike railed against the poor performance of the M-9 ammunition magazines.
The springs are extremely weak and the follower does not move forward when rounds are moved, the Marine report stated. If the magazine is in the weapon, malfunctions result.
Soldiers complained that even after they were told to stretch the springs and load only 10 rounds instead of the maximum 15, the weapons still performed poorly. Lack of maintenance was determined not to be the cause.
Multiple cleanings of the magazine each day does not alleviate the problem, the Marine report stated. The main problem is the weak/worn springs.
Still, Marines wanted more pistols to back up their rifles, especially in urban environments, according to the report.
Stay Safe !
62 gr. is too fast and simply punches holes. 55 gr would be even faster, but is more lethal because it's unstable and tumbles on striking the target (because it's lighter?). 77 gr is slower and gives greater knockdown.
Interesting lethality chart. As you increase weight you seem to temporarily decreased lethality. I wonder if the 55 or the 77 is more lethal.
What we have is the M72A1 LAW(Light ANtitank Weapon, which is a one-shot weapon weighing over 5 pounds. To carry multiple LAW rounds, you have to carry multiple launcher tubes, which can be a pain.
What's needed is something similar to the RPG or old-style bazooka, where you have a reloadable launcher with separately-carried packs of rockets, like a 3-pack in a resealable light container that can be attached to your ALICE gear. It also needs to be cheap enough that troops can actually get to fire a couple of dozen rounds in training to get comfortable with it.
The twist-rate in the rifling is also a factor. The original spec from Stoner called for a 1-in-14 twist rate, which produced the lethal "tumbling" action, but reduced accuracy at long ranges. A fast twist (1-in-9) makes for better accuracy, but you lose the tumbling. A VERY fast twist (1-in-7) makes the bullet spin so fast that it tends to fragment on impact (again increasing lethality)
The RPG isn't really an anti-tank round and that's what our researchers are trying to devise...and individual anti-tank weapon. They've probably got it in some future form of the Javelin (fire/forget, lethal, deployable for short distances by one soldier.)
But the RPG is, as you say, a reusable, rocket-propelled, high lethality weapon that's cheap enough to put into the hands of individuals.
It's no wonder that our troops like our own grenade launcher.
I remember seeing "Black Hawk Down" where a D-boy tells a Ranger about the knock down power of a certain gun. I couldn't help but think why the Ranger didn't have the same weapon. I really thought it must have been an exception due to a supply mishap.
Marines who gave the first real-world test to the M-240G, the heavier successor to the old M-60 machine gun, werent disappointed.
Still, soldiers said, some improvements could be made. Among their suggestions: a lighter tripod, and collapsible bipods like the M-249 SAW.
Sounds like they want the Navy's MK43. It has a foregrip, collapsible bipod, and an optional shorter barrel for fighting in enclosed structures.
If you learn what your 'battle sight zero' then you can get your m-16 very close to zeroed before you is fire a shot. Mine is 6 left, zero down.
Then again, I was never taught this by any of the navy or marine instructors I've had. I learned it from an FBI type who gave us a little extra coaching one weekend.
Works like a charm.
That way they could all be taken out by the same scud.
The ballistics on the 7.62 aren't all that poor and AK-47 is more reliable in harsh conditions than the M-16, especially in the fine dust of the middle east. A lot of AK-47's aren't made to close tolerances, which makes them less accurate, but less likely to jam when they're in a dusty environment. You're correct in the fact that no weapon is ideal for every type of mission. Given a choice I would take the SAW over both the AK and the M-16 for the type of combat they're doing in the gulf.
But the Discom was going for speed of decision making and information flow by grouping in one location.
But you are absolutely correct. When you group together you are accepting an increased level of risk. They thought better information management made the risk worth taking.
Real men shoot weapons with the words "100" and "millimetres" in their description.
(generous exception made for M48 90 gunners. And 90 mike-mike Reckless Rifles)
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