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To: w1andsodidwe
You gotta know that this class of immigrants is least likely to go on welfare, join a labor union, or vote democRAT, therefore they must be stopped.

My $0.02:

I'm an IT worker myself and I know there are a lot of cases where Americans have lost jobs to H-1B techies. OTOH, you are absolutely correct - these folks are very smart, have a strong work ethic and good family values (at least those that I've met). And, speaking specifically of Indian H-1B's, there is another advantage - I think most of them are Hindu and are a way of bonding the US and India together. We are natural allies; we've both been afflicted with "the religion of peace". </sarcasm>

What is needed is a more sophisticated visa program. People from societies who support the war on Islamicist terrorism - OK. People from societies who don't - go to the back of the line.

16 posted on 07/13/2003 10:32:54 AM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Heatseeker
"These folks (imported foreign nationals) are very smart, have a strong work ethic and good family values".

Give me a break. Who's disputing this? You're missing the point entirely.

American techie workers also are very smart, have strong work ethics and good family values. Yet, today, they have to go on unemployment to keep family food on the table while they see the good jobs go to foreigners by government design in cahoots with greedy major corporations.

Do you have any idea how many freepers, for instance, have been laid off in these past couple years in the fields under discussion? Do you care? Are you happy that they may have been replaced by foreigners, no matter how smart and capable our folks or the foreign nationals are?

While I'm not an advocate of government fiat mandating who corporations can hire or not, we ALREADY have government fiat allowing imports of foreign nationals to fill jobs that can be capably filled by our own people. Let these foreigners immigrate, become citizens under legal quotas, and work their way up to higher positions in their fields just like Americans have to do. Why should they be rounded up from overseas and walk straight into plum jobs?

To add insult to injury, these foreign nationals over the years faithfully send millions of dollars to their families back home, further draining our economy.

I imagine that some nit-picky holes can be poked in my general analysis. But I don't come from a globalist viewpoint with its warm and fuzzy sermons about the value of "nice" foreigners getting precedence over American workers in being offered the opportunities to make a decent living. Niceness has nothing to do with it. Logical reasoning is out the window.

Leni

30 posted on 07/14/2003 5:43:05 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Heatseeker
You know what?

I know a young man 33 years old, who has ALREADY served 4 years in the US Army..... back duing GULF WAR I and after. He came home went to college, got a degree ( with honors), worked in IT, was forced to train his foreign( INDIAN and PAKI) replacements, he got laid-off, the Pakis and Indians keep right on working at his former place of employment at his former job and he cannot... after almost a year find another IT job anyplace in the USA.

Just too much completion from H1B/L1 WORKERS.

Well, our patriotic American needs a job, a real job not the little $7-9 per hour jobs he has had of late. HE HAS A COLLEGE LOAN TO REPAY!!!

So, the our Patriot, is going back into the Army.

Let me tell you something, bud.... I do not think a guy should have to do two terms in the US Army, so that some slimely foreigners can have his job!

Allies my A__!! Hey, man... I did NOT see ONE SINGLE INDIAN TROOP helping our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines in the recent IRAQ affair.

Who the heck needs allies like that?

They are not allies they are PARASITES!! Just like the FRENCH!

48 posted on 07/14/2003 10:16:36 AM PDT by crazykatz
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