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Talking dirty to the American people (CNN reporter Slams US Talk Radio!)
Index on Censorship ^ | 2003 | Sheila MacVicar

Posted on 07/11/2003 11:53:39 AM PDT by LibertyBelt

Talking dirty to the American people

An estimated 22 per cent of Americans get their daily news from Talk Radio - bizarre, bigoted and often startlingly misinformed diatribes from radio show hosts hired for their ability to shock first and foremost. TV journalist Sheila MacVicar visited a few and was appropriately shocked. Talk Radio is a peculiarly American phenomenon featuring much rhetoric and not a lot of substance; high volume noise often combined with the absence of facts.

As a journalist living in Europe, working for an international news organisation, it is a phenomenon that I have experienced only as a casual listener, vacationing in the United States. My recent voyage into the world of Talk Radio taught me that it is also a place where prejudices and stereotypes are passed off as real information.

I was asked to promote, on half a dozen or so Talk Radio shows, a documentary I prepared for CNN Presents called 'The Arab Street', the result of an eight day journey overland from Amman to Damascus and on to Beirut. The piece sampled public opinion in this part of the Arab world as the United States, Britain and their coalition partners lurched towards war.

My first call was with a west coast morning show duo called Young and Elder; nationally syndicated, they came together after not quite making it as comedians.

We joked about their prior inability to make an international phone call, then talked about what people had told me of their fears of war, and American occupation and imposition. They asked, "So did you have to walk three paces back all covered up in black?"

If I'd been on camera, viewers would have seen my jaw drop. No, I replied, I wasn't quite dressed for a day at the beach in California, but then, how many places on the planet can you appear in public wearing only a few tiny triangles?

There was the syndicated talk show host out of Washington; ranked by USA Today as one of the 25 most influential in the United States, who demanded "Don't they get it? Without us, they'll be riding camels again." Or the talk show host, skewing for the older listener, who wanted to know whether I was frightened talking to Arabs.

Much of this could have been amusing. But a recent Gallup poll, released in Jan. 2003, found that 22 per cent of those surveyed in the United States said that they got their news every day from Talk Radio, more than double the percentage who confessed the same thing just four years ago.

Al Rantel, of KABC-740AM, and a talk radio host himself, said "Let's not kid ourselves. Talk Radio is entertainment. I'm flattered that many people trust Talk Radio to get their information." But, he added, talk radio is "a three hour editorial. People should know Talk Radio is opinion and commentary and we are not unbiased."

It's one thing to engage in domestic political ranting over the airwaves (the vast majority of Talk Radio hosts consider themselves to be Republicans), and another to indulge in ignorance, prejudice, and even racism. "It's not producing an informed democracy," said Amy Mitchell, at the Project for Excellence in Journalism, a group which strives to improve journalistic standards.

Not only is Talk Radio, and America's increasing reliance on editorial opinion dressed up as infotainment not producing people who understand, and have a factual basis which they can use to evaluate the issues of the day, it is also reinforcing deeply held stereotypes born out of ignorance.

We have heard Arab-Americans talk of their fear in the post 11 September world. We have heard other Americans express great confusion about why they were targeted that day.

Yet, more than two years later, it seems that many Americans do not yet understand the deep well-spring of anger in the Middle East, including anger from middle-class, professionals who speak English (and in addition, it must be said, speak at least one other language), who admire much about the United States, were often educated there, and who are deeply disturbed by American policy.

This administration has chosen, to date, to pay little attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, described to me by Jordan's foreign minister as "the central conflict in the region".

I listened to young, western-educated Arabs, dentists and editors and artists and engineers, talk of their belief that America is entering into a new colonialist era, and seeks to (however temporarily) occupy Arab land. The question of democracy? No one with whom I spoke believed the US had any interest in promoting democracy in the region, and would not support 'democracy' that was imposed.

People in the region talk of the concepts of Jeffersonian and Wilsonian democracy, concepts that I would wager have been lost to most Americans, or least those who listen to Talk Radio, and their hosts.

People with graduate degrees from American universities told me that they were now ashamed to be seen to be supporters of more democracy in the region, because that was now perceived as 'doing America's work', in the words of one key regional advisor.

These are complicated and difficult issues, in complicated and difficult times. It would seem that 22 per cent and growing, of the American population could be better served.

Sheila MacVicar is a CNN correspondent.


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I usually like this journal, Index on Censorship, but they have given free propaganda space to another CNN airhead who dislikes the informed, intelligent competition from the PEOPLE, via talk radio. She needs to be outed, nu?
1 posted on 07/11/2003 11:53:40 AM PDT by LibertyBelt
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2 posted on 07/11/2003 11:56:35 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: LibertyBelt
Talk Radio - bizarre, bigoted and often startlingly misinformed

Examples?

Americans do not yet understand the deep well-spring of anger in the Middle East

You're right...I don't. Nor do I care. THEY should worry about OUR anger!

3 posted on 07/11/2003 11:57:57 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: LibertyBelt
Ah, Ms. MacVicar. Now there's a source for you. Shilled for any despots lately, MacVicar?
4 posted on 07/11/2003 11:59:25 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: LibertyBelt
"It's (Talk Radio) not producing an informed democracy," said Amy Mitchell, at the Project for Excellence in Journalism, a group which strives to improve journalistic standards.

It (Talk Radio) exists because of pathetic journalistic standards in the "old" forms of media.

5 posted on 07/11/2003 11:59:51 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: LibertyBelt
"This administration has chosen, to date, to pay little attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, described to me by Jordan's foreign minister as "the central conflict in the region".

Statements like this is why more and more people are choosing to get their news elsewhere.

6 posted on 07/11/2003 12:00:51 PM PDT by diggerwillow
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To: LibertyBelt
One, this is a leftist hit piece dripping with bias.

Two, the Middle East better fear our anger. We're the guys with the tech and tools to conquer the world. They AREN'T

7 posted on 07/11/2003 12:02:56 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: LibertyBelt
(the vast majority of Talk Radio hosts consider themselves to be Republicans),..

Right. And the vast majority of the objective reporters for the networks are Democrats.
Like Rush Limbaugh says, Talk Radio IS equal time!

8 posted on 07/11/2003 12:06:55 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: LibertyBelt
Isn't CNN's time in the spotlight almost up?
9 posted on 07/11/2003 12:07:21 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: LibertyBelt
According to this dingbat, Talk Radio is bad, and the USA is bad, too. Who would ecpect anything less from CNN.
10 posted on 07/11/2003 12:09:18 PM PDT by wjcsux
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To: Puppage
Americans do not yet understand the deep well-spring of anger in the Middle East

Actually she doesn't. She dances around the pre-9/11 blame America first type prejudices, hints that it's `about Israel', and blames both the imposition of democracy and the fears about it on...guess who...America. Typical lefty, she doesn't ask why the "one key advisor" fears supporting democracy - and the natural question why are many against it. Is it because of "America," or are the opponents to democracy Islamists who have sincere anti-democratic beliefs?

I'd guess she never read a speech by Osama or Iranian Mullahs - she'd prefer to dwell in her trite explanations but hold on to some continuing post-9/11 validity by at least admitting: "These are complicated and difficult issues, in complicated and difficult times." I hear these issues touched upon in talk radio, never CNN. CNN isn't the filter it once was, and that's why they're worried.

11 posted on 07/11/2003 12:09:34 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: diggerwillow
"the central conflict in the region".

She's quite the dupe, isn't she?

12 posted on 07/11/2003 12:10:30 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: LibertyBelt
While I was reading her drivel, the words, "arrogant, 'educated' snob, pompous, full-of-herself and totally out-of-touch 'journalist'" kept running thru my mind.

Bravo to the 22% of us who are informed!!

g

13 posted on 07/11/2003 12:13:48 PM PDT by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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To: LibertyBelt
MacVicar seems to be more worried about what the Arabs think of talk radio than what Americans think of it.

Being able to get on-air and voice individual opinions is unique to America, and instead of putting talk radio down she should have held it up as an example of free speech to the arab world.

I'll admit that talk radio can run from serious commentary by Rush to the far out UFO crazies, but that's what makes it so unique.

Free speech by individual Americans without liberal censorship. It drives liberals crazy. If we could start up some American style, free speech, talk radio stations in the middle east republicanism might take hold a lot faster than Bush planned on.
14 posted on 07/11/2003 12:14:45 PM PDT by Noachian (Legislation without Representation has no place in a free Republic)
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To: LibertyBelt

There will never be a shortage of Anointed Smart People bemoaning the fact that the plebes aren't paying attention to their betters.

Toss in the sort of liberal who imagines that non-liberals must of course be uneducated yahoos, and we get the oh-so-worldly Ms. Sheila MacVicar. I can only imagine how long her snoot must be, and how it faces the sky like a giant rain scoop. No wonder she stays in the Middle East. She'd drown during the first thunderstorm in Virginia.


15 posted on 07/11/2003 12:14:45 PM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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To: LibertyBelt
Not only is Talk Radio, and America's increasing reliance on editorial opinion dressed up as infotainment not producing people who understand, and have a factual basis which they can use to evaluate the issues of the day, it is also reinforcing deeply held stereotypes born out of ignorance.

Pure unadulterated crap. Talk Radio (dunno why she feels the need to capitalize this, probably due to some deep unconcious fear of TALK RADIO!) listeners are many times more informed on the issues of the day than the average slob who relies only on major network and print media coverage. Opinions of so called 'journalists' ultimately determine which facts get published and which get buried. She is just mad that Talk Radio has taken away her shovel...JFK

16 posted on 07/11/2003 12:16:53 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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It's one thing to engage in domestic political ranting over the airwaves (the vast majority of Talk Radio hosts consider themselves to be Republicans), and another to indulge in ignorance, prejudice, and even racism.

You notice that when the left doesn't (or can't) agree with a talk radio host, then said host is always automatically guilty of racism, prejudice & ignorance.

This idiot is about as clueless as they come...

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17 posted on 07/11/2003 12:18:51 PM PDT by mhking
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And I cant wait to hear what Rush has to say about this on Monday. Hoo-boy, this broad is in for it when all of the Dittohead 'Timexes' have our say in her email inbox...JFK
18 posted on 07/11/2003 12:19:01 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: diggerwillow
"This administration has chosen, to date, to pay little attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, described to me by Jordan's foreign minister as "the central conflict in the region".

Where the heck did this line come from? It doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the article. It's pure Bush bashing.

19 posted on 07/11/2003 12:19:53 PM PDT by Pest
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To: LibertyBelt
I listened to young, western-educated Arabs, dentists and editors and artists and engineers, talk of their belief that America is entering into a new colonialist era, and seeks to (however temporarily) occupy Arab land.

And just who is it that is spreading this garbage to the Arabs? It's a far cry from what you hear on "Talk Radio"...America's minutemen, our voice of freedom.

20 posted on 07/11/2003 12:22:11 PM PDT by PLOM...NOT!
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