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GOPers tell Ridge Mexican ID card a threat to security
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| 07-11-03
Posted on 07/11/2003 8:25:06 AM PDT by Brian S
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posted on
07/11/2003 8:25:06 AM PDT
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Brian S
To: Brian S
Here we have a guy that's supposed to be the Director of Homeland Defense, and someone actually has to explain to him why the Mexican Consulate IDs are a danger to us?
Ah, excuse me, do you have to tell him to wipe his own arse after going to the bathroom too?
Here Tom, lift your left foot swing it forward, lift your right foot, swing it forward... good Tom, we're walking, we're walking. Take another breath Tom. Open the door... ooops. Sorry I'll remind you sooner next time Tom.
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07/11/2003 8:37:54 AM PDT
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To: Brian S
Actually, I think that this card aids Homeland Security. Anyone with one of these instead of a Mexican passport with a valid USA visa is an illegal alien and should be deported. The threat to security is not the card, it's the willingness of private and public institutions and authorities to accept them. We can't stop Mexico from issuing them, but we can stop institutions from accepting them.
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posted on
07/11/2003 8:41:24 AM PDT
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RonF
To: RonF
We can't stop Mexico from issuing them, but we can stop institutions from accepting them. Congress can stop it. Bush can stop it. But they don't. They not only allow this invasion, they encourage it. I will not vote for any politician who refuses to protect our borders as the Constitution MANDATES. Bush is going to lose alot of votes and I won't cry if he's not re-elected. Any candidate who doesn't honor his oath to the Constitution isn't worth voting for.
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posted on
07/11/2003 8:48:49 AM PDT
by
exmarine
To: Brian S
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Advocates say the cards help immigrants access basic functions of daily life such as obtaining driver's licenses and opening bank accounts. They also note that the card serves a law enforcement purpose, allowing police to identify people who otherwise might travel without identification.
Well, if this is the case, the Republic of Panama should demand equal treatment as well as other countries that required their citizens to carry a type of metricula. In Panama, it goes by a different name (cédula), but its the same thing. By law, every Panamanian citizen 18 and over must carry this ID on his/her person which includes a photo, blood type, fingerprint, and ones national ID number which is equivalent to the U.S. social security number. One needs it to transact any and all kinds of businesses here such as banking, cashing checks, applying for utilities, telephones, purchasing property, applying for a drivers license, voting, and much, much more. Also, the cédula must accompany a credit card transaction. Why just the Mexicans?
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posted on
07/11/2003 9:43:08 AM PDT
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dennisw
(G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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Why is President Bush silent on this issue?
To: DoughtyOne
Here we have a guy that's supposed to be the Director of Homeland Defense, and someone actually has to explain to him why the Mexican Consulate IDs are a danger to us?
This is a White House charade.
The purpose of the Mexican matricula consular cards is to ID Illegals, and President Bush can not help but be aware of the fact that more than a million of them have been issued. Yet he has yet to speak against them. The President's silence can only only be interpreted as tacit support of giving IDs to Illegals.
But if the Mexican IDs for Illegals are no good (and heck, they're only for Mexican Illegals anyway), what's the solution?
Answer: give American IDs to the Illegal Aliens.
This whole story is a dog and pony act to justify the Amensty that's coming soon from President Bush.
To: DoughtyOne
Ah, excuse me, do you have to tell him to wipe his own arse after going to the bathroom too? Probably. Don't forget, one of Tom Ridges' highest priorities after 9/11 was to assure that hazardous NAFTA Trucks weren't impeded from accessing U.S. Highways by something so artificial, antiquated and inefficient as a national border.
To: Sabertooth
Mexican matricula consular cards are a back door amnesty. Designed to make access to the American dream easier for those who have jumepd our borders. It is an incentive for more to try to come here ilegally.
Even worse we will soon have sham ID cards from other nations who are copying Mexico. They all want to exploit the good will of the United States of America.
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posted on
07/11/2003 9:54:59 AM PDT
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dennisw
(G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
To: Sabertooth
This whole story is a dog and pony act to justify the Amensty that's coming soon from President Bush. This is the only conclusion I can reach as well. My question is, what possible benefit does this provide for Bush and the GOP? The net result will be millions of additional Democrat votes.
To: Sabertooth
I get e-mail from the re-elect campaign asking for donations and e-mails of others who might want to contribute.
Ther is a section for "comments" in which I stated that I expected the President to address the border issue before I could fully support him.
To: Sabertooth; Willie Green
You know what guys, I wish I could tell you your full of it. In order to do that I'd have to be full of it.
President Bush does not have the best interests of this nation at heart. He is more interested in the plight of illegal alliens than he is the well being of his fellow citizens and the sactitiy of our hallowed nation.
What's an honest citizen to do? This is wrong on so many levels.
To: Sabertooth
I often wonder what the difference is between the two major parties anymore. It doesn't seem to matter who you vote for, the agenda is already set in stone, and our votes don't count. Dictatorship? Why vote anymore?
To: janetgreen
Why vote anymore?If you don't vote, or vote for a fringe candidate, that only costs one vote. If you get really, really angry and vote for the opposition, that means they'll have to get two votes to compensate.
That's the only threat that will stop this nonsense. It seems like the administration thinks it can win without those who support minimal government, the borders, an end to illegals given a free ride, jobs being lost by citizens, a cut in spending and programs, and the PBA ammendment. If some Democrat picks up on any of these issues, probably two or three of them, it should garner a lot of those stay-at-home votes. Don't forget, we can bring some Dem candidate(s) on board, as there isn't a meaningful Republican primary.
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posted on
07/11/2003 11:12:56 AM PDT
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grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: DoughtyOne
"Here we have a guy that's supposed to be the Director of Homeland Defense, and someone actually has to explain to him why the Mexican Consulate IDs are a danger to us?"
Yep. Makes me sleep better at night knowing the likes of Tom Ridge heads up our nations security agencies.
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07/11/2003 12:05:21 PM PDT
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Paulie
To: Paulie
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