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Kennedy’s Libertarian Revolution. Lawrence’s reach.
National Review Online ^ | July 10, 2003 | Randy E. Barnett

Posted on 07/10/2003 6:30:08 PM PDT by Sandy

The more one ponders the Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas, the more revolutionary it seems. Not because it recognizes the rights of gays and lesbians to sexual activity free of the stigmatization of the criminal law — though this is of utmost importance. No, the case is revolutionary because Justice Kennedy (and at least four justices who signed on to his opinion without separate concurrences) have finally broken free of the post-New Deal constitutional tension between a "presumption of constitutionality" on the one hand and "fundamental rights" on the other. Contrary to what has been reported repeatedly in the press, the Court in Lawrence did not protect a "right of privacy." Rather, it protected "liberty" — and without showing that the particular liberty in question is somehow "fundamental." Appreciation of the significance of this major development in constitutional law requires some historical background.

FUNDAMENTAL-RIGHTS JURISPRUDENCE & THE NEW DEAL
At the end of the 19th century, as the so-called "Progressive" movement grew, legislation was passed at the state level regulating and restricting economic activity. At the same time, morals legislation became much more pervasive, though often falling under the rubric of "public health" — what historian Ronald Hamowy has called the "medicalization of sin." All this was part of an intellectual and political movement to improve upon the result of personal and economic choices by aggressively using government power to improve the general welfare.

Around the turn of the 20th century, the Supreme Court sporadically resisted this movement, striking down some (but far from all) laws restricting economic activities, and also state laws that, for example, prohibited private Catholic schools. The Court was sharply criticized by Progressives at the time for being "activist" and political, though even some constitutional historians on the left today, such as Howard Gillman, acknowledge the continuity between the principles of the Founding and what the Progressive-era Supreme Court was trying to do in circumscribing state power.

With the Great Depression came the New Deal, which proposed similar measures at the national level. The story of how the Supreme Court came to reverse itself and eventually uphold this legislation as constitutional is fascinating, but too complicated to try to summarize here. (The best book on this is Rethinking the New Deal Court, by University of Virginia legal historian Barry Cushman.) Suffice it to say that ever since U.S. v. Carolene Products (1938), legislation was supposed to be presumed constitutional unless one of the three exceptions in its famous "Footnote Four" was satisfied. Heightened scrutiny would be given to a statute that (a) "appears on its face to be within a specific prohibition of the Constitution, such as those of the first ten amendments," (b) interfered with the political process, or (c) messed with a discrete and insular minority. This allowed the court to uphold economic regulation, while preserving judicial review of enumerated rights such as freedom of speech and of the press. (The fact that the right to bear arms — explicitly mentioned in the Second Amendment — has not been judicially protected, shows the ideological nature of this maneuver.) Ironically, no one has been more stalwart in allegiance to the Roosevelt-New Deal judicial philosophy of Footnote Four than today's judicial conservatives, such as Robert Bork.

ENTER THE "RIGHT OF PRIVACY"
In Griswold v. Connecticut (the 1965 contraceptives case), the Court struck down as unconstitutional a state ban on the sale and use of contraceptives. Writing for the Court, Justice Douglas (a Roosevelt appointee) held that the law violated what he called the "right of privacy" that he said could be discerned in the "emanations" and "penumbras" of the enumerated rights, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches. Douglas was obviously struggling to stay within the first exception to the presumption of constitutionality specified in Footnote Four — in which only rights enumerated in the Constitution would merit protection — and to avoid opening up other forms of liberty to judicial scrutiny.

Had Douglas grounded the decision in "liberty" (which is mentioned in the text) rather than "privacy" (which is not), he would have risked undoing the strong deference to Congress and state legislatures that he and his fellow-New Deal justices had previously established. On the other hand, by narrowly construing the unenumerated right being protected, Douglas ensured that abortion and procreative rights were viewed as special-interest rights. Had they rested on a general right to liberty, rather than on the more narrow right to privacy, they would more likely have received broader support from those who wanted to see their favored liberties protected as well.

ENTER "FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS" V. "LIBERTY INTERESTS"

Emanations and penumbras could not conceal, however, that the protection of an unenumerated right of privacy was outside the framework of Footnote Four. The beauty of the Footnote Four solution is that it limited judicial review to enumerated rights, while allowing government free rein in the economic sphere. The problem created by the unenumerated right of privacy is that it now required the Court to distinguish unenumerated liberties (deemed by the court to be "fundamental rights" that rebut the presumption of constitutionality) from mere "liberty interests" (that do not). Eventually, the Court settled on limiting fundamental rights to those that could be grounded in our "history and traditions" or "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty."

The more specifically you define the liberty at issue, however, the more difficult a burden this is to meet — and the more easily the rights claim can be ridiculed. "Liberty" is obviously deeply rooted in our history and traditions. A right to use contraceptives is not. Nor is almost any particular exercise of liberty, especially if it was a practice unknown at the Founding. Whenever a particular liberty is specified, therefore, it is always subject to the easy rejoinder: "Just where in the Constitution does it say that?" even though the Ninth Amendment specifies that "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

KENNEDY'S SWITCH FROM PRIVACY TO LIBERTY
In Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), Justice Kennedy began to escape from this New Deal-era box in the part of the coauthored opinion commonly attributed to him. (Justice Souter is credited with the discussion of stare decisis — properly ridiculed by Justice Scalia in his Lawrence dissent — and Justice O'Connor with the discussion of "undue burden," her hallmark.) In his part of the joint opinion, Justice Kennedy refused to rest abortion rights on a "right to privacy," though this crucial move has been generally ignored. Instead he rested it on liberty, and explicitly on the Ninth Amendment:

Neither the Bill of Rights nor the specific practices of States at the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment marks the outer limits of the substantive sphere of liberty which the Fourteenth Amendment protects. See U.S. Const., Amend. 9.

Resting abortion rights on liberty, as opposed to privacy, was newsworthy, but I seemed to be among the only one to get the news. To this day, everyone still talks of the "right of privacy," not the "right of liberty." Until Lawrence, the question for me was whether this right to liberty would ever be seen again, since it has not made another prominent appearance until now. But what an appearance!

Unlike in Casey, now Justice Kennedy is writing for a majority of the Court (not including Justice O'Connor, who concurred only in the result), rather than solely as part of a trio. Liberty, not privacy, pervades this opinion like none other, beginning with the very first paragraph:

Liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions into a dwelling or other private places. In our tradition the State is not omnipresent in the home. And there are other spheres of our lives and existence, outside the home, where the State should not be a dominant presence. Freedom extends beyond spatial bounds. Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. The instant case involves liberty of the person both in its spatial and more transcendent dimensions.

Other examples abound:

We conclude the case should be resolved by determining whether the petitioners were free as adults to engage in the private conduct in the exercise of their liberty under the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. . . .

There are broad statements of the substantive reach of liberty under the Due Process Clause in earlier cases, including Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U. S. 510 (1925), and Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U. S. 390 (1923); but the most pertinent beginning point is our decision in Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U. S. 479 (1965). . . .

In discussing Griswold, Justice Kennedy puts rhetorical distance between the decision in Lawrence and the right of privacy protected in Griswold:

The Court [in Griswold] described the protected interest as a right to privacy and placed emphasis on the marriage relation and the protected space of the marital bedroom.

Indeed, the "right of privacy" makes no other appearance in this opinion (apart from a quotation from a previous case). Even Justice Kennedy's rejection of the argument from stare decisis rests on the centrality of liberty.

In Casey we noted that when a Court is asked to overrule a precedent recognizing a constitutional liberty interest, individual or societal reliance on the existence of that liberty cautions with particular strength against reversing course. . . . The holding in Bowers, however, has not induced detrimental reliance comparable to some instances where recognized individual rights are involved.

Liberty, not privacy, is doing all the work here. Indeed, the word "privacy" appears just four times in the opinion — two of which are in a quotation from a previous case and a third in a quote from the grant of cert. The fourth and only other use is Justice Kennedy's characterization of Griswold, quoted above.

A "PRESUMPTION OF LIBERTY"
In addition — and as the dissent notices — now there is no pretense of a "fundamental right" rebutting the "presumption of constitutionality." If you reread his opinion, you will see that Justice Kennedy never mentions any presumption to be accorded the Texas legislature. More importantly, he never tries to justify the right to same-sex sexuality as fundamental. Instead, he puts all his energy into demonstrating that same-sex sexual freedom is a legitimate aspect of liberty — unlike, for example, actions that violate the rights of others, which are not liberty but license.

With this as the baseline, the onus then falls on the government to justify the restriction of liberty. Once an action is deemed to be a proper exercise of liberty (as opposed to license), the burden shifts to the government. Though he never acknowledges it, Justice Kennedy here is employing what I have called a "presumption of liberty" that requires the government to justify its restriction on liberty, instead of requiring the citizen to establish that the liberty being exercised is somehow "fundamental."

All that was offered by the government to justify this statute was the judgment of the legislature that the prohibited conduct is immoral — which for the majority (including, in this regard, Justice O'Connor) is simply not enough, standing alone, to justify the restriction of liberty. Why not? Because this judgment of immorality means nothing more than that a majority of the legislature disapproves of this conduct, which would be true whenever a legislature decides to outlaw something. Such a doctrine would amount to granting an unlimited police power to state legislatures. The police power of states may be broad, but it was never thought to be unlimited — although until passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, the federal government had no jurisdiction to protect the privileges or immunities of citizens from infringement by their own states.

THE RESPONSE TO JUDICIAL CONSERVATIVES
The response of judicial conservatives (not to be equated with all political conservatives) who are still rooted in the post-New Deal constitutional jurisprudence has been both entirely predictable and remarkably feeble. First, they argue that since all laws restrict some "freedom," requiring legislatures to justify to a court their restrictions on liberty would enable judges an unbridled power to strike down any laws of which they disapprove. But this is to equate "liberty" and "license," a mistake the Founders never made. Liberty is — and has always been — the properly defined exercise of freedom that does not violate the rights of others. Your right to liberty is not violated by restrictions on your freedom to rape and murder, because you have no such right in the first place.

This is not to say that liberty may never be regulated (as opposed to being prohibited outright). It is only to say that the existence of a right to liberty places a burden on the government to justify any regulations of liberty as necessary and proper. Wrongful behavior that violates the rights of others may justly be prohibited without violating liberty rights — though "wrongful" does not equal "immoral."

Which brings me to the second judicial-conservative objection: The majority's position, they say, rejects any moral content of law. This is false. Wrongful behavior that violates the rights of others may justly be prohibited without violating the liberty rights of others. Because it is usually (though not always) immoral to violate the rights of others, the entirely justified prohibition of wrongful behavior also, therefore, necessarily prohibits some immoral behavior as well. But not all ostensibly immoral behavior is also unjust or wrongful, as Aquinas recognized when he wrote:

Now human law is framed for a number of human beings, the majority of which are not perfect in virtue. Therefore human laws do not forbid all vices, from which the virtuous abstain, but only the more grievous vices, from which it is possible for the majority to abstain, and chiefly those that are to the hurt of others, without the prohibition of which human society could not be maintained; thus human law prohibits murder, theft and the like.

Finally, judicial conservatives say that there is no textual basis for the protection of a general right to liberty. Unlike "privacy," however, both Due Process clauses explicitly mention "liberty." The judicial-conservative response to this is to argue that liberty may properly be restricted so long as "due process" is followed. As Justice Scalia wrote in his dissent:

The Fourteenth Amendment expressly allows States to deprive their citizens of liberty, so long as due process of law is provided. (his emphases)

This is wrong on two counts.

First of all, the "due process of law" includes judicial review. And judicial review includes an examination of whether the government is acting within its delegated powers. That is why, in U.S. v. Lopez and U.S. v. Morrison, the Supreme Court could properly strike down a federal statute that exceeded the power of Congress under the Commerce Clause.

Second, both the Ninth Amendment and the Privileges or Immunities Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment authorize the protection of unenumerated (and unenumerable) liberty rights "retained by the people." The Ninth protects against federal violations of liberty rights; the Privileges or Immunities Clause protects against violations by states like Texas of liberty rights plus the Bill of Rights and other privileges or immunities of its U.S. citizens.

Judicial conservatives move heaven and earth to excise these two provisions from the Constitution, because they think neither is definite enough to confine judges — a charge that is untrue if one relies on the original meaning of these provisions. But disregarding the text of the Constitution because it does not comport with your vision of the "rule of law" is as much judicial "activism" — if one must use this phrase — on the right, as it is when the Left discards the text because it does not meet their vision of "Justice." In either case, judges are substituting for the text something they prefer, which in this case is silence where the Constitution is in fact speaking quite eloquently.

REMARKABLY SIMPLE RULING
In the end, Lawrence is a very simple ruling. Justice Kennedy examined the conduct at issue to see if it was properly an aspect of liberty (as opposed to license), and then asked the government to justify its restriction, which it failed adequately to do. The decision would have been far more transparent if Justice Kennedy had acknowledged what was really happening (though perhaps this would have lost some votes by other justices). Without this acknowledgement, the revolutionary aspect of his opinion is concealed, and it is rendered vulnerable to the ridicule of the dissent. Far better would have been to more closely track the superb amicus brief of the Cato Institute which he twice cites approvingly.

If the Court is serious, the effect on other cases of this shift from "privacy" to "liberty," and away from the New Deal-induced tension between "the presumption of constitutionality" and "fundamental rights," could be profound. For example, the medical-marijuana cases now wending their way through the Ninth Circuit would be greatly affected if those seeking to use or distribute medical marijuana pursuant to California law did not have to show that their liberty to do so was somehow "fundamental" — and if the government was forced to justify its restriction on that liberty. While wrongful behavior (license) could be prohibited, rightful behavior (liberty) could be regulated provided that the regulation was shown to be necessary and proper.

For Lawrence v. Texas to be constitutionally revolutionary, however, the Court's defense of liberty must not be limited to sexual conduct. The more liberties it protects, the less ideological it will be and the more widespread political support it will enjoy. Recognizing a robust "presumption of liberty" might also enable the court to transcend the trench warfare over judicial appointments. Both Left and Right would then find their favored rights protected under the same doctrine. When the Court plays favorites with liberty, as it has since the New Deal, it loses rather than gains credibility with the public.

Randy Barnett is the Austin B. Fletcher Professor at Boston University School of Law and author of The Structure of Liberty: Justice and the Rule of Law. His forthcoming book, Restoring the Lost Constitution: The Presumption of Liberty, will be published this fall by Princeton University Press. He is a senior fellow of the Cato Institute.



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To: jmc813
It isn't. The Founders set up the document for a moral, self-governing people only. Who in the 18th Century would have thought that centuries later we'd have a 1st Amendment 'right' to create and view degrading images of people copulating, and a hidden 'right' to privacy to murder children? Or a hidden 'right' to privacy to renounce our inalienable rights, thereby making them alienable? Or a hidden 'right' to privacy to engage in sexual perversions? Perhaps next we'll see some libertarian-socialist state legalize perverted 'marriage.'
41 posted on 07/10/2003 10:09:19 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Tribune7
Tribune7 wrote:
"What should constrain judges when interpreting the Constitution?"




The constitution itself.

-- But ultimately the people control all the checks & balances in our system to stop a runaway court.
42 posted on 07/10/2003 10:19:07 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: Cultural Jihad
I've got to be getting to bed, but allow me to leave you with this, and we shall continue in the morning....

a.)many of the Founding Fathers owned slaves, which in my opinion is 10 times more immoral than porn or gays.

b.)At wht point do you think we hit the point where we as a society has become so immoral that the Constitution should no longer apply?

With tht, I bid you a good evening.

43 posted on 07/10/2003 10:20:28 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: tpaine
Why, in your opinion, is Oregons assisted suicide law unconstitutional?...evidentally it isn't under extension of this latest ruling - but it's a poor law - I've worked with "suicidal" patients - except perhaps for the terminally ill or those in intractable pain (who have the right to hasten their own deaths through living wills), it is almost invariably a temporary state and with time and proper care those who at one time wanted to die and would give consent and cooperate (and thus might die under the law) in fact at a later date no longer feel this way...
I'm going to be interested to see if and how the Supremes uphold the ban on assisted suicide when the Oregan law is challenged - perhaps given their recent penchant for finding "compelling state interests" for setting aside rights otherwise guaranteed in the Constitution they will decide that insuring "domestic tranquility" is enough of a reason to uphold the ban, given that so many people seem to find assisted suicide morally and ethically distasteful, and forcing people to abide by laws which go against their own sense of right and wrong can't help but rile them up........
44 posted on 07/10/2003 10:24:47 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: tpaine
And how exactly are the people as a whole supposed to check the power of our rogue Supreme Court? Justices are unelected, unaccountable, and serve for a life term.

Realistically, it takes about an 80% level of support to enact an Amendment, and there is little likelyhood the court will pay any more attention to additions to the text of the Constitution than it pays to the current text and meaning of the Constitution.

So as long as the Court continues to rule with the support of a sizable leftist minority, as it does now, there is little to no likelyhood of the democratically accountable branches checking the Court.

This is why the judicial branch was designed specifically to be the weakest of the branches - not the overpowering behemoth it is today.
45 posted on 07/10/2003 10:28:45 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: MHGinTN
it was the underlying assumption that a woman's liberty trumped the LIFE of a non-person
-mhg-

Legally, under our constitution, that is correct, - until 'viablity' there is no legally separate person.

You have a better solution to the legal dilemma? - Lets see it.

46 posted on 07/10/2003 10:29:12 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: Cultural Jihad
until the activist judges find an inalienable right to an early death, slavery to vice, and the pursuit of unneeded suffering.

At the time of our founding I doubt whether anyone would have wanted to outlaw muskets, even though, say a cousin of yours might have shot himself in the eye by being careless with a ram-rod.

Understanding the dangers inherent in loading a musket then is no different from understanding the risks or dangers of having sex with a potential aids carrier.

That a twelve-year-old might be able to safely handle a musket would not necessarily equate to being as proficient when considering sexual practices or partners. Therefore, given the varying gradations of risk involved with many activities I would favor restrictions on minors as well as prosecuting adults who'd act to undermine such restrictions.

47 posted on 07/10/2003 10:31:42 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: budwiesest
If musket loading resulted in mayhem and death more often than not, then it would be legitimate to ban them. There is nothing inherently immoral with owning or shooting a musket. The same cannot be said about homosexual sodomy.
48 posted on 07/10/2003 10:36:50 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
The Libertarians couldn't care less about the Constitution, as long as their moral-liberalism is being lauded and upheld.

Until I found out about FR less than a year ago, I didn't really know that much about Libertarians. After reading a lot of their ideas, I see that they are a branch of Utopians, such as fascists and Communists, and leftist/liberals. They want an ideal fantasy world, based on their particular desires. They are all in the same boat - they want perfection in the here and now, and if someone else doesn't like their "perfection" - tough s**t. That's why the libertarians are usually very hateful and angry. The more lust for immediate pleasure and selfish gratification a person has in their heart, the more angry they are.

(Because they can never attain it, so are always frustrated.)

Utopian philosophies, when implemented, create the worst hells on earth.

49 posted on 07/10/2003 10:39:05 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
Utopian philosophies, when implemented, create the worst hells on earth.

Yes, indeed. Heaven forbid than an ambitious libertarian zealot ever obtain supreme power. There would be mass murder of the citizeny on this country on a scale not seen since the great Stalinist purges.

50 posted on 07/10/2003 10:43:30 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: tpaine; Admin Moderator

Excuse me? Perhaps you should start by committing murder. FreeRepublic is not a place to advocate your sort of lunacy, O ideologue.

52 posted on 07/10/2003 10:48:22 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: tpaine
Since 1973, when the Roe abortion decision was handed down from the Supreme Court of the United States, science has advanced our understanding of prenatal (before birth) life to a depth few could have anticipated. Most of the discoveries are unexplained for the general public, as we wend our way through daily life unaware of the amazing truths being revealed through honest hard science. The entire spectrum of prenatal discovery supports a rejection of abortion on demand and reinforces the correctness of protecting prenatal life, the way our society protects an adult individual at the end of their life.

In a recent article for First Things, Maureen L. Condic, PhD, Assistant professor of Neurobiology and Anatomy at the University of Utah, presents a convincing argument for meaning of the death protocol (used when organ harvesting is anticipated) to also be used when contemplating prenatal life. She has stated accurately that, “… the loss of integrated bodily function, not the loss of higher mental ability, is the defining legal characteristic of death.”

That is an accurate assessment of the meaning but there is confusion regarding this protocol because it addresses ‘brain death’, yet it doesn’t refer to loss of thinking ability. It should not be assumed that ‘being alive’ as a human being is solely a function of higher brain functioning, or even dependent upon the organ called brain.

To paraphrase Dr. Condic’s assertion: to be alive as an ORGANISM, the organism is functioning as an integrated whole, rather than life being defined solely from an organ, a form within the organism. The one organ defines alive notion was the perspective decades ago. People focused upon one organ when the heart was believed to be the center of function, before organ harvesting became a reality. When the heart stopped beating, the person was thought to be dead, thought to be no longer a functioning, integrated whole organism. Today, doctors routinely stop and start the heart, keeping the patient functioning for survival, viable as an integrated whole via artificial heart and lungs.

A person in an unrecoverable coma or vegetative state has no higher brain function, yet their body continues to function as an integrated whole. As Dr. Condic puts it, “Although such patients are clearly in a lamentable medical state, they are also clearly alive, [so] converting such patients into corpses requires some form of euthanasia. … Human life is defined by the ability to function as an integrated whole, not by mere presence of living human cells.”

Functioning as an integrated whole is far more complex than mere cellular structures, and the older the organism (in the first year from conception of the individual), the more the aliveness is spread out into sub-unit forms (the developing organs) of the alive yet integrated organism; the younger the human organism is, the less differentiated the sub-units are, the less spread out among forms is the integrated function.

A poster on an Internet discussion thread recently asserted that, “Unless you are looking at the issue [prenatal human life] solely from a religious standpoint, rational thinking minds would conclude that at 5-7 weeks, a fetus is not fully formed and is not a human life until at least 11-13 weeks.”

The first order in addressing such an assertion is the false comment that the earliest life of the conceptus is not human life. It is a human life, clearly, because the sex cells that conceived the new life are from human beings. The second glaring inaccuracy relates to the notion that at 5 – 7 weeks accepted definition holds the individual life to be in embryonic stage, not the fetal stage. [I prefer to use the term age as opposed to stage, since an age is but a segment along a continuum, and human lifetime is a continuum from conception until death.] Precise transition from embryo to fetus is not so easily assigned, however.

In order to accurately apply the meaning of the death protocol offered in Dr. Condic’s article, we will have to show how an embryo is more than a mere collection of cells. We will have to show how the embryo is in fact a functioning, integrated whole human organism. If the embryo can be defined on this basis, the definition of an alive, individual human being would fit, and the human being should be protected from exploitation and euthanasia.

What is the focus of the transition from embryo age to fetal age are the organs of the fetus. It is generally held that the organs are all in place when the individual life is redefined as a fetus. The gestational process during the fetal age is a process of the already constructed organs growing larger and more functional for survival. But during the fetal age, the not yet fully functional organs are not the sole sustainer of the individual life. The placenta is still drawing nourishment from the woman’s body and protecting the individual from being rejected as foreign tissue. If we are to apply the notion of a functioning integrated whole to define individual aliveness, the organs necessary for survival must all be included. Since the primitive brain stem and other organs such as primitive lungs, to be relied upon at a later age in the individual’s lifetime, are not yet fully functional, some other organ will have to be responsible for the functioning whole.

The first organ that a conceived human individual builds for its own survival is the placenta. This first organ is so important to the organism’s survival that in vitro fertilization doctors will not attempt implantation of an embryo until the encapsulating structure is in evidence. The newly constructed placental barrier is the organ that sends chemical messages to the uterine lining, for attachment to the woman’s life support system. This newly constructed barrier organ continues to grow and thicken, and is also what tricks the woman’s immune system into not rejecting the implanting life. The placenta functions as a survival capsule in which the alive, individual human being builds the other organs for later survival when exiting the womb.

Because of this amazing placental organ, an embryo is alive, functioning as an integrated whole organism. Further, it is an already alive organism that builds the organs of the later-age human body. It is not the woman’s body that builds the second individual on life support in her body.

The newly conceived life is a distinct and very much separate individual human being from the woman in whom it resides and grows. The Mother does not built the placental organ, nor any of the organs of the new individual, though it is from her body that the new individual receives protection and nourishment during the first age of its own lifetime, while that new individual organism builds the form (organs and structure) it will use for survival in the air world.

There is a popular argument that the transition from embryo to fetus is an acceptable stopping point for abortion on demand ... prior to the fetal stage, the woman would have exclusive right to determine which embryos will continue receiving a woman's life support and which will be disposed of for whatever reason the woman chooses to cite. If our society is to go down that road, let us not be dishonest in assigning non-human being status to the embryos euthanized.

It is scientifically impossible to discover a precise point when the individual alive being transitions from only embryonic to fully fetal in nature. Because that topic is deeply dependent on not so easily explained scientific facts, allow me to move to the next objection to such an arbitrary assignment of value when contemplating euthanasia.

Prior to the fetal age of the individual lifetime, the organs necessary for survival as a fully functional human being in the air world are not present but are being built by the embryo and looped into the primitive brain, the brain stem. The lungs are not sufficiently developed to support breathing until as old as twenty-one weeks from conception.

If survival functioning of brain and lungs and heart is what will be chosen to define an alive, viable, individual human being, it is important to note that the first organ built by the newly conceived individual, the first and crucial organ for survival is cast off at birth! That is why the choice of fetal age is so arbitrary in the false assertion that fetuses should be protected while embryos should not (should not, based on the specious notion of an integrated whole organism functioning for survival and growth and development only when the fetal age--with the organ structures for future survival--is reached). A human embryo fits the protocol for an alive, functioning, integrated whole organism, the same protocol upon which organ harvesting depends when contemplating the death of a human organism.

In the not so distant future, science will devise an artificial chamber, in which an alive, functioning, integrated whole human being in early fetal age may be sustained, kept alive. Following that seeming miracle, the artificial means will be devised for supporting the embryo into the fetal age. It is vital that our society rightly defines an individual human being’s aliveness, before the weighty issues of personhood, right to life, right of privacy, and property rights run headlong into the dehumanization of individual lifetimes.

In science, it is often the simplest solution that is the most elegant solution to a problem. Since the embryo builds its own survival capsule (the placenta) to allow it to have shelter and nourishment, it is elegantly factual to assert that the embryo is an alive, integrated whole for that age of its lifetime begun at conception. The embryo is no less an individual human being with at least one functioning organ that allows the integrated whole to survive into the future ages of the lifetime already up and running.

53 posted on 07/10/2003 10:50:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: tpaine
until 'viablity' there is no legally separate person.

”viability”??? So we can terminate those with Cerebral palsy, Cystic fibrosis, Spina bifida, Tay-Sachs disease, Down syndrome, Muscular dystrophy…et al 3000 genetic diseases because they can’t exist on their own? That’s what your Liberaltarian social experiment is about? Thank God your political “system” is so irrelevant and common sense prevails.

Now you’re not only a hypocrite and a liar but no better than a Nazi.

55 posted on 07/10/2003 10:55:52 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Kevin Curry
Libertarians such as some posting here are like a compass that doesn't point north any more. Such a compass has all the little points, letters, degrees, the glass, moves around when you move it so it looks accurate. It's just that it is never accurate - except once in a while by accident. They are hollow, empty inside. They have a core of nothingness - because they do not have a conviction in an absolute. Although some of them have said they are Christian, maybe that breed are different?

Many are good at juggling words and are very intelligent, very intellectual. It's like being very good at grammar, speechifying, curlicues of handwriting - but empty of vital meaning. I don't even try to debate with them because it reminds me of trying to talk with very articulate mental patients. They argue one point, you argue back, and they reply with something that has not the least reference to what you said. It's kind of psychotic.

If somehow they could make their own little country, it would be the most hellish chaos and within a short time a totalitarian hell. No doubt about it. They are living in a belladonna alternate reality.
56 posted on 07/10/2003 10:56:33 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Cultural Jihad
Like minds eh?
57 posted on 07/10/2003 10:56:43 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
The Browneshirts would use the full force of the state to protect heroin depots and crack houses. Their mindset is so ludicrous they'd be laughable if they weren't the stormtroopers of the Democratic Party.
58 posted on 07/10/2003 10:59:57 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: swilhelm73
This is why the judicial branch was designed specifically to be the weakest of the branches - not the overpowering behemoth it is today.
-73-

I have no further answers to your fantasy that our USSC is a behemoth out of control.
They still are 'weak', with no enforcement powers. In effect the texas lawmakers could draft another 'silly' law and tell them to go to hell.
Would Bush send in the troops?

59 posted on 07/10/2003 11:01:59 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: Cultural Jihad
If musket loading resulted in mayhem and death more often than not, then it would be legitimate to ban them.

If this is the yardstick being used then you may witness a lot of pissed off auto-makers. Not to mention tobacco cos. etc.

Your "more often than not" is a problem I admit, as I doubt most intelligent people would want to engage in taking such risks,(when this is the known result) but I'm not certain where the state's interests begin and where the individual's end when living in a supposedly free society.

Is it at 51% of deaths, 40% of deaths, 20% of deaths etc. from engaging in a particular 'liberty'? I mean, a particularly nasty tornado could render certain parts of Kansas "banned" forever.

60 posted on 07/10/2003 11:02:07 PM PDT by budwiesest
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