[presidio9]

Gouldens Spicy brown

Know your audience. People from Arizona have never heard of Gulden's, and they think "Wonder" is about the right consistency for bread. I'm serious. They eat their hoagies/wedges on hot dog rolls. They just don't know any better. It's sad, really.

[riri]

Bread. I am a bread snob. I grew up in a Jewish bakery in upstate NY and I know bread. I lived in Germany, and for all they do wrong-they have mastered bread.

This chemically laden dried out spongy crap they try to pawn off as bread is not even close to being real bread. And you are right, the people who are native to this area have no idea.

Bread. It's one of my pet peeves.

[commonerX]

This is scary it looks like I have to take your side on this. Anyone who lives in or around Philly knows why people are leaving. The food is one of the things that keeps people around. I never lived in Pheonix but I can't stand the hot weather, whether it is a "DRY HEAT" or not. I'll take Philly please. Best place to buy fresh pretzels is the Pretzel Factory on Frankfort Ave in the NE.

[Range Rover]

I've seen those people. A bit scary... Bologna on white with mayo. Yeeech.

There are a few invisible culinary borders in this country and the majority of them are just beyond NYC and Philly. Real bread is scarce anywhere south of Newark , Delaware but you CANNOT get anything resembling a decent bagel or bialy once you go 50 miles out from Ludlow and Canal ST.....trust me on this. It's the water.