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It is getting better. Check this out [Truthout trying to hide stealing a fraudulent article]

Posted on 07/09/2003 6:26:23 PM PDT by William McKinley

I am having a back and forth with Japan Today regarding their publishing of an article which appeared in Capitol Hill Blue that has subsequently been exposed to be false.

Japan Today did not get the article from Capitol Hill Blue though. They got it from Truthout.org, a leftist propaganda outfit.

I wanted to see if Truthout.org even had the story up on their site. I went to their main page, Truthout.org and checked. Nothing. I noticed a search box up at the top. So I took a phrase from the original article, sought significant quantities and hit search.

Bingo.

Here is what the resulting page looked like:


Search results for 'sought and significant and quantities'
Refine search:
Documents 1 - 10 of 18 matches. More *'s indicate a better match.
t r u t h o u t - Iraq Attacks Wound Seven U.S. Soldiers*
... threat posed by Saddam in the run-up to the war. And the White House acknowledged Bush was incorrect when he said in January that Iraq recently had sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa. (In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/070903D.shtml 07/08/03, 11552 bytes
t r u t h o u t - Robert Scheer | A Diplomat's Undiplomatic Truth: They Lied**
... uranium connection as a major justification for rushing the nation to war: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa." What the president did not say was that the British were relying on their intelligence white paper ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/070903C.shtml 07/08/03, 12192 bytes
t r u t h o u t - White House Admits Lying About Iraq Nukes****
... weeks of denial, the White House Monday finally admitted President Bush lied in his January State of the Union Address when he claimed Iraq had sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa.   The acknowledgment came as a British parliamentary commission questioned the reliability of ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/070903A.shtml 07/08/03, 24043 bytes
t r u t h o u t - US Ambassador: 'Nuclear Report Ignored' By Administration*
... .   Bush, in his State of the Union speech on Jan. 23, declared that "the British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."   After Bush's speech, Wilson said he contacted the State Department, noted that the ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/070803E.shtml 07/07/03, 15966 bytes
t r u t h o u t - The Selling of the Iraq War**
... choice about the most important question a nation faces: whether or not to go to war. That is exactly what the Bush administration did when it sought to convince the public and Congress that the United States should go to war with Iraq.     From late August 2002 to mid-March of this year ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/070703A.shtml 07/06/03, 55335 bytes
t r u t h o u t - Diplomat: British Ministers Knew Evidence was Forged*
... office of the Vice-President, Dick Cheney.   During eight days in Niger he discovered it was impossible for Iraq to have been buying the quantities of uranium alleged. "My report was very unequivocal," he said. He also learnt that the signatures of officials vital to any transaction ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/070103B.shtml 06/30/03, 12799 bytes
t r u t h o u t - 10 Appalling Lies We Were Told About Iraq**
... to the occasional lie of expediency but, in fact, almost never told the truth.     What follows are just the most outrageous and significant of the dozens of outright lies uttered by Bush and his top officials over the past year in what amounts to a systematic campaign to scare the bejeezus ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/062903G.shtml 06/28/03, 16884 bytes
t r u t h o u t - Serious Questions for Tony Blair**
... was attempting to build nuclear weapons that could pose a threat to the West.   The Government has stood by reports that Iraq "sought the supply of significant quantities of uranium from Africa". British officials say the intelligence was based on multiple sources, despite the IAEA ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/062703G.shtml 06/26/03, 13840 bytes
t r u t h o u t - Byrd: 'The Road to Coverup is the Road to Ruin'**
... the President who appears to me to be intent on revising history. There is an abundance of clear and unmistakable evidence that the Administration sought to portray Iraq as a direct and deadly threat to the American people. But there is a great difference between the hand-picked intelligence that was ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/062503A.shtml 06/24/03, 22919 bytes
t r u t h o u t - Rep. Waxman | Forged Iraq WMD Evidence**
... on This Week, you repeated this statement, claiming that you made multiple inquiries of the intelligence agencies regarding the allegation that Iraq sought to obtain uranium from an African country. You stated:   George, somebody, somebody down may have known. But I will tell you that when ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/061303B.shtml 06/13/03, 19626 bytes
Notice that the third result is a match for Doug Thompson's article.

But wait, there's more.

I click on it- and what do I find? It now goes to a completely different article, from the Washington Post. In other words, they had it up, and they took it down to make it look like they didn't have it.

Unfortunately for them, their search engine's cache still has it. At least for the time being. Others should replicate what I have done here for verification. I am sure they will be 'fixing' this slip up hastily.


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1 posted on 07/09/2003 6:26:24 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
You've done a terrific job with this entire mess. Nice work!
2 posted on 07/09/2003 6:28:30 PM PDT by terilyn
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3 posted on 07/09/2003 6:29:50 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: William McKinley; CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; kmiller1k; mhking; rdb3; ...
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4 posted on 07/09/2003 6:29:51 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: William McKinley
A "GREAT JOB" bump.
5 posted on 07/09/2003 6:30:52 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (670: neighbor of the neighbor of The Beast.)
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To: Sabertooth
Bumpity bump.
6 posted on 07/09/2003 6:32:49 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: William McKinley; habs4ever; Registered
Over here!
7 posted on 07/09/2003 6:37:11 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: William McKinley
Blog entry:
I got the following mail back from Japan Today:
We'd like to run the article by Doug Thompson but we don't subscribe to Capitol Hill Blue. We either have to wait until truthout.org prints a correction that we can use or -- if you can give us Mr Thompson's e-mail address -- I will contact him and ask for permission to run the story whose link you provided.


Thanks

My reply:
OK, we are obviously having a few disconnects here.


1) Doug Thompson is dougthompson@capitolhillblue.com


2) Doug Thompson claims that he has been in email contact with you, and that you told him you got the story from truthout.org- so either you already had his email, or he and I are talking to two different people, or he misled me when he said he had been in contact with you.


3) The story you ran did NOT originate with truthout.org. It originated on Capitol Hill Blue at 0129 EDT on July 8. It was at this URL: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_2518.shtml That URL now has a modified version of the story- the changes are he backed off the assertion that Bush admitted lying, and he removed the part of the story about Wilkinson. A copy of the story was posted on Free Republic at 1442 EDT July 8: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/942434/posts This copy is identical to the one Truthout.org sold to you. You published something that Truthout, a leftist propaganda outfit, plagiarized.


4) Not only was it plagiarized, it turns out it was also containing completely false information. There is no Terrance J. Wilkinson. Does your paper have an ombudsman? Maybe he should take a look at this.


5) If you go to the Truthout.org website, you will find that they don't even have the story up. They were using you to publish a false story.


6) If you search on a phrase from the story, their search engine will find it and show a brief excerpt of it. But if you click on the link to go to it, it now takes you to a completely different story. They are trying to hide that they ever had it up, since their plagiarism was discovered. You can find the details of what they did on this Free Republic thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/943322/posts.


I appreciate that you want to get a retraction from Truthout.org, but you are acting as if they are an honorable organization. They are not. They stole an article, and as it turns out they got caught because through a twist of fate the article they stole was in the process of being proven to contain fraudulent information.


Regards


8 posted on 07/09/2003 6:37:56 PM PDT by William McKinley (From you, I get opinions. From you, I get the story.)
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the ping!
9 posted on 07/09/2003 6:40:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran Mullahs will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: Sabertooth
Dang. I loved the original McKinley for his campaign from his home (how original) and this McKinley is just on the ball. Doing some great work.
10 posted on 07/09/2003 6:40:16 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: William McKinley
Well, let's see, that means that someone on the port side is following this story as closely as us FReepers..lol. What a bunch of lame-brains.

Good job.
11 posted on 07/09/2003 6:41:07 PM PDT by Registered (77% of the mentally ill live in poverty, that leaves 23% doing quite well!)
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To: Registered
How long do you think it will take them to get this out of their search engine's cache?
t r u t h o u t - White House Admits Lying About Iraq Nukes****
... weeks of denial, the White House Monday finally admitted President Bush lied in his January State of the Union Address when he claimed Iraq had sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa.   The acknowledgment came as a British parliamentary commission questioned the reliability of ...
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/070903A.shtml 07/08/03, 24043 bytes
Especially since it goes to a completely different story when you follow the link now?
12 posted on 07/09/2003 6:43:01 PM PDT by William McKinley (From you, I get opinions. From you, I get the story.)
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To: William McKinley
I'd say minutes. Shall we start a thread to wager? LOL.
13 posted on 07/09/2003 6:43:44 PM PDT by Registered (77% of the mentally ill live in poverty, that leaves 23% doing quite well!)
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To: Registered
Isn't that what I just did? lol
14 posted on 07/09/2003 6:44:33 PM PDT by William McKinley (From you, I get opinions. From you, I get the story.)
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To: William McKinley
This thread should have a more descriptive title.
15 posted on 07/09/2003 6:44:34 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Support Free Republic
Best laugh of the day! Thanks!
16 posted on 07/09/2003 6:45:12 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: William McKinley
You've got to hand it to the Honorable Henry Waxman. Anybody who looks like Lon Chaney in 1925's "The Phantom of the Opera" without make-up has to have guts.


17 posted on 07/09/2003 6:45:51 PM PDT by xJones
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To: MediaMole
Yeah. I was being dumb- trying to hurry the post since I was afraid truthout would clear their cache before anyone else could see for themselves.

Looks like JR or someone took care of it though.

18 posted on 07/09/2003 6:46:06 PM PDT by William McKinley (From you, I get opinions. From you, I get the story.)
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To: William McKinley
LOL, looky, looky who's on the CHB forum right now...

Capitol Hill Blue's Reader Rant Recent Visitors: 44
cruiser, Doug Thompson, Mike Coons, Seven of Nine, SkyHawk, LanDroid, William Rivers Pitt, The Doctor, eris, DYogman, TLBSHOW, Registered, Jazzhead, and 31 guest(s)
19 posted on 07/09/2003 6:50:45 PM PDT by Registered (77% of the mentally ill live in poverty, that leaves 23% doing quite well!)
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To: Registered
William Rivers Pitt (friend of Marc Ash, btw)?
20 posted on 07/09/2003 6:52:18 PM PDT by William McKinley (From you, I get opinions. From you, I get the story.)
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