BREAKING: Conned big time "CIA Witness" to White House Lying about Intel story found to be FRAUD

Capitol Hill Blue ^ | July 9, 2003 | Doug Thompson

[kittymyrib]

This smells like something Bill and Hillary and the DNC would do...discrediting Bush during his Africa trip. All the dems were carrying water on this "false information in the State of the Union speech" the last few days. It was a setup and the correction won't get any play unless Fox news and Rush give it big play. Thompson should have known something was wrong after Tony Blair said it was a false story two days ago. He is FAR too trusting if he was fooled by this false informer.

[MEG33]

A Pity....;)

[TaxRelief]

TLBShow is over on the dark side talking to Doug Thompson. Freepers, if you start posting there or if you see anything good, can you cc the rest of us, here, please?

[TaxRelief]

I want to see a reversal of Roe vs Wade and a complete rollback of the leftist feminist/homosexual/gungrabbing agenda and a ton of other liberal/socialist crap rescinded/abolished etc, and I want to see it in my life-time!

Jim,

This question comes up over and over again: can a ruling that strikes down a law (Lawrence v. Texas, for instance) actually be reversed?

[MEG33]

I may need a tin foil hat but my "it's political" antennae is up.

[CanisRex]

"Were you lying then or are you lying now?"

Those same bells are going off in my head... Sounds a little too neat, I agree. It's like one of those kiddy scratch and sniff books; his retraction looks good at first blush, but scratch it and it smells like a red herring.

I want to believe Doug, but color me skeptical.

[verity]

Say 20 Hail Mary's and sin no more.

[Redleg Duke]

My best friend in my entire life earned my undying respect on the day we first met at Camp Roberts, California. He put his unit into an area we were specifically told to avoid and got it stuck in the mud. I asked him why he did it and he said, "I screwed up!" At that point I realized that here was a man who I could trust and depend on.

You have entered into that special category with your admission. In an era of victimhood, it takes a real man to accept blame and apologize.

[Redleg Duke]

As big a man as Doug showed himself to be, you have demonstrated what a small person you are.

And you call yourself a Marine! SHIT!

[Seeking the truth]

The situation in Afganistan certainly should be dicussed by this body; however, the delegate from the Republic of Korea's suggestion to send in peackeepers to "end" the civil war would not be appropriate at this time. It is interesting to note that the right honourabledelegate from the Republic of Poland was recently censured for making this same suggestion about the situation in Korea earlier. Until Afganistian presents itself as a clear threat to the peace and security of the region, then no military action should be taken by the United Nations. Thank you.

Re: Wilkinson's ID

Just tuck the factoid of the spelling of honorable v. honourable in the back of our minds. Those who are American schooled do not spell it this way. Points in the direction that T.J. Wilkinson may not be an American or at least not native born or schooled. Just a little factoid in this mystery.

[Trace21230]

Needed to ping you guys. This thread is long, but amazing. Apparently the "Bush lied about Iraqi nukes" story was a total fabrication.

Unbelievable.

Trace

[cherry_bomb88]

It takes a human to screw up, and a REAL man to admit when he has. You, my FRiend, have more ethics than anyone I know.

[TEXASPROUD]

After I read the story I thought the same thing.

[cherry_bomb88]

Thanks for the ping Meekie.

'Bay & Nicko....you guys might want to read this.

[firewalk]

thanks for the ping

[section9]

No he isn't .. but then he never claimed to be .. at least he was honest about that.

I can't pin point it .. but my gut tells me there is some more going on that we haven't figured out yet

He wasn't even honest about that.

Doug Thompson claimed to be an impartial reporter. In fact, he was an inveterate Bush basher, as his columns from earlier in the year reveal.

There's a lot more here than meets the eye. Thompson's "story" started to move, and people started to pick it up. Unfortunately for Doug, FR people started looking into the column and highlighted its similarities with earlier works. Once the heat was on about his sourcing and the origins of the mysterious Mr. Wilkenson, Thompson jumped off this bandwagon like a cat on a hot tin roof.

Now comes time to connect the dots. Why did Pitt, managing editor of truthout, lift this story without permission and peddle it to Japan Today? Pitt is, after all, a prominent member of the CHB rant section. Would he have done this without Doug's permission? Color me skeptical.

I was willing to believe Doug's retraction at first. Now, I'm not so sure. Something here doesn't pass the elephant feces test.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

Please update some things. Why was CHB sold? Are you still writing (the owner) for CHB? (You say YOU went and deleted all CHB articles from your newly discovered con artist source) I got alot of flames for posting your articles on this forum over the last year as many said you were anti-Bush. I defended your non-biased "tell it like it is" journalisim.

Click here could you please explain what I may have missed?

[CanisRex]

Once the heat was on about his sourcing and the origins of the mysterious Mr. Wilkenson, Thompson jumped off this bandwagon like a cat on a hot tin roof.

The retraction came waaaaaay too fast for my tastes. Nice analysis, btw, on your posts.

[YaYa123]

Subject: Joseph Wilson - Iraq buy of uranium from Niger - Bush's claim in his State of the Union Speech.

One of you wrote:
"If I am not mistaken, Cap(Casper Weinberger), said that the guy who ran the editorial in the NYT was not asked by the VP to look into the uranium story."

Guys,I think the importance of the Niger-uranium story is political, and how the Democrats will use, are already using it, against Bush,starting with the Senate hearings. They are laying the groundwork for a full frontal attack on President Bush's honesty, integrity, legacy. (I'm not over stating. VP Cheney will be their conduit.)

Last night on Hardball: Jay Rockefeller is convinced Vice President Cheney is the one who sent Joseph Wilson to Niger to investigate the uranium sale. Rockefeller's point was that Cheney sent Wilson, hence Cheney knew the story was bogus, hence Cheney was responsible for the bogus intelligence being included in Bush's State of the Union speech.

Chris Mathews seemed to agree. But David Gergen said: 'No, It wasn't the Vice President. It was the CIA who sent Wilson to Africa to investigate whether or not Iraq had bought uranium from Niger. Mathews and Rockefeller continued to argue their point, so Gergen picked up a copy of the NYT, and read a partwhich should have won the argument, but Rockefeller and Mathews would not bend. Gergen even reminded them that Wilson had worked for the CIA before, that it was logical the CIA would have asked for his help in verification.

Wilson will figure prominently in the Democrat efforts to discredit President Bush. Rush.com is keeping tabs, and here's excellent Wilson background.

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/wilson.html

Here's more interesting information to add to the mix, from MSNBC: http://famulus.msnbc.com/FamulusIntl/reuters07-09-083034.asp?reg=MIDEAST

...."...U.S. government sources said Italy's intelligence service had circulated reports about the Niger documents -- not the documents themselves -- to other Western intelligence services in early 2002, and that was apparently how the British and U.S. intelligence services learned of them. ..."

And from that same article, the following, which I think addresses what will become one of the Democrats' biggest question: Who sent Wilson to Niger, and isn't that person responsible for the bogus Niger-uranium claim in President Bush's State of the Union?

" From referenced MSNBC article:  "....Former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson disclosed he had travelled to Africa in 2002 to investigate the report. He said on Sunday he had reported back to the CIA that it was highly doubtful any such transaction had ever taken place.

Last night on Hardball, the guests couldn't agree on who sponsored Wilson's Niger trip. I want us to remember Caspar Weinberger is already on the front lines for Bush/Cheney. I want us to remember that David Gergen politely, but resolutely argued it was the CIA that sent Wilson to Niger. I want us to remember how this position dovetails with the above MSNBC column.    

I mean, why would Joseph Wilson had reported back to the CIA, if Cheney were the one who sent him on the mission?? And really, why in the hell would Dick Cheney have sent Clinton operative Joseph Wilson on a cloak and dagger mission? That doesn't even pass the make sense test.

I don't often use replies as a notepad for myself but this subject, (thanks to the media hyperventilating to prove Bush lied in his SofUspeech), is going to be the Democrats weapon of choice to use against Bush in 2004 election. It's all they got, and they are already running with it.

Chris Mathews is salivating. He's chosen his line of attack to use against Bush, no doubt in consultation with Democrats. It will be that Democrat senators, and the American people weren't convinced we should attack Iraq until Bush claimed Saddam had bought uranium from Niger to build nukes. In other words, this Bush lie in the State of the Union speech is what caused us to go to war with Iraq.

 

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

Terrance J. Wilkinson is the name of the named by you, con artist source.

This (the quoted statement below) was named a partnership.

"Capitol Hill Blue is a pioneer in web-based journalism," said partnership spokesman William J. Lowrey. "We intend to honor that tradition and improve upon it."

Who is William J. Lowrey?

Who was CHB sold to? What is your current status with CHB? Why (if) did you sell CHB? And to whom, exactly?