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Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

Posted on 07/09/2003 12:08:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

FORT WORTH, Texas - (KRT) -
The long-running debate over the origins of mankind continues Wednesday before the Texas State Board of Education, and the result could change the way science is taught here and across the nation.

Local and out-of-state lobbying groups will try to convince the board that the next generation of biology books should contain new scientific evidence that reportedly pokes holes in Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

Many of those groups say that they are not pushing to place a divine creator back into science books, but to show that Darwin's theory is far from a perfect explanation of the origin of mankind.

"It has become a battle ground," said Eugenie Scott, executive director of theNational Center of Science Education, which is dedicated to defending the teaching of evolution in the classroom.

Almost 45 scientists, educators and special interest groups from across the state will testify at the state's first public hearing this year on the next generation of textbooks for the courses of biology, family and career studies and English as a Second Language.

Approved textbooks will be available for classrooms for the 2004-05 school year. And because Texas is the second largest textbook buyer in the nation, the outcome could affect education nationwide.

The Texas Freedom Network and a handful of educators held a conference call last week to warn that conservative Christians and special interest organizations will try to twist textbook content to further their own views.

"We are seeing the wave of the future of religious right's attack on basic scientific principles," said Samantha Smoot, executive director of the network, an anti-censorship group and opponent of the radical right.

Those named by the network disagree with the claim, including the Discovery Institute and its Science and Culture Center of Seattle.

"Instead of wasting time looking at motivations, we wish people would look at the facts," said John West, associate director of the center.

"Our goal nationally is to encourage schools and educators to include more about evolution, including controversies about various parts of Darwinian theory that exists between even evolutionary scientists," West said. "We are a secular think tank."

The institute also is perhaps the nation's leading proponent of intelligent design - the idea that life is too complex to have occurred without the help of an unknown, intelligent being.

It pushed this view through grants to teachers and scientists, including Michael J. Behe, professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania. The Institute receives millions of dollars from philanthropists and foundations dedicated to discrediting Darwin's theory.

The center sent the state board a 55-page report that graded 11 high school biology textbooks submitted for adoption. None earned a grade above a C minus. The report also includes four arguments it says show that evolutionary theory is not as solid as presented in biology textbooks.

Discovery Institute Fellow Raymond Bohlin, who also is executive director of Probe Ministries, based in Richardson, Texas, will deliver that message in person Wednesday before the State Board of Education. Bohlin has a doctorate degree in molecular cell biology from the University of Texas at Dallas.

"If we can simply allow students to see that evolution is not an established fact, that leaves freedom for students to pursue other ideas," Bohlin said. "All I can do is continue to point these things out and hopefully get a group that hears and sees relevant data and insist on some changes."

The executive director of Texas Citizens for Science, Steven Schafersman, calls the institute's information "pseudoscience nonsense." Schafersman is an evolutionary scientist who, for more than two decades, taught biology, geology, paleontology and environmental science at a number of universities, including the University of Houston and the University of Texas of the Permian Basin.

"It sounds plausible to people who are not scientifically informed," Schafersman said. "But they are fraudulently trying to deceive board members. They might succeed, but it will be over the public protests of scientists."

The last time Texas looked at biology books, in 1997, the State Board of Education considered replacing them all with new ones that did not mention evolution. The board voted down the proposal by a slim margin.

The state requires that evolution be in textbooks. But arguments against evolution have been successful over the last decade in other states. Alabama, New Mexico and Nebraska made changes that, to varying degrees, challenge the pre-eminence of evolution in the scientific curriculum.

In 1999, the Kansas Board of Education voted to wash the concepts of evolution from the state's science curricula. A new state board has since put evolution back in. Last year, the Cobb County school board in Georgia voted to include creationism in science classes.

Texas education requirements demand that textbooks include arguments for and against evolution, said Neal Frey, an analyst working with perhaps Texas' most famous textbook reviewers, Mel and Norma Gabler.

The Gablers, of Longview, have been reviewing Texas textbooks for almost four decades. They describe themselves as conservative Christians. Some of their priorities include making sure textbooks include scientific flaws in arguments for evolution.

"None of the texts truly conform to the state's requirements that the strengths and weaknesses of scientific theories be presented to students," Frey said.

The Texas textbook proclamation of 2001, which is part of the standard for the state's curriculum, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills, requires that biology textbooks instruct students so they may "analyze, review and critique scientific explanations, including hypotheses and theories, as to their strengths and weakness using scientific evidence and information."

The state board is empowered to reject books only for factual errors or for not meeting the state's curriculum requirements. If speakers convince the state board that their evidence is scientifically sound, members may see little choice but to demand its presence in schoolbooks.

Proposed books already have been reviewed and approved by Texas Tech University. After a public hearing Wednesday and another Sept. 10, the state board is scheduled to adopt the new textbooks in November.

Satisfying the state board is only half the battle for textbook publishers. Individual school districts choose which books to use and are reimbursed by the state unless they buy texts rejected by the state board.

Districts can opt not to use books with passages they find objectionable. So when speakers at the public hearings criticize what they perceived as flaws in various books - such as failing to portray the United States or Christianity in a positive light - many publishers listen.

New books will be distributed next summer.

State Board member Terri Leo said the Discovery Institute works with esteemed scientists and that their evidence should be heard.

"You cannot teach students how to think if you don't present both sides of a scientific issue," Leo said. "Wouldn't you think that the body that has the responsibility of what's in the classroom would look at all scientific arguments?"

State board member Bob Craig said he had heard of the Intelligent Design theory.

"I'm going in with an open mind about everybody's presentation," Craig said. "I need to hear their presentation before I make any decisions or comments.

State board member Mary Helen Berlanga said she wanted to hear from local scientists.

"If we are going to discuss scientific information in the textbooks, the discussion will have to remain scientific," Berlanga said. "I'd like to hear from some of our scientists in the field on the subject."


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To: ALS
Oh shoot. I kept waiting for at least one of the scoffers to at least try one question and none delivered. I expected it though :(...
Maybe tomorrow they will get up some courage.
1,101 posted on 07/10/2003 7:42:19 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Evolution is the religion for men who want no accountability)
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To: NewLand
That is just excellent, NewLand, thanks for posting. The first time I heard the bird story I just had to have it as it was a perfect analogy for an ongoing discussion on FR.

I have a couple of other stories I'll put in my profile soon. Thanks for the prayers and blessings!

1,102 posted on 07/10/2003 7:42:30 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: f.Christian
Reducing theology to a ... child's caricature * --- sure makes it easy to dismiss, doesn't it?

That was originally posted to me. I answered YES!

Of course, the difference between the child's caricature and the ultra-literalist fundies was nil, so that made it easy.

1,103 posted on 07/10/2003 7:44:29 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
When evoids figure out how to post links from atheist websites over the phone, they'll be on. Otherwise the outside world is still a bit too scary for em.
1,104 posted on 07/10/2003 7:44:36 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: ALS
Name one "innocent person" God has killed.

Well, if I believed Adam & Eve literally, you would have a point.

How about the zygote inside any woman during the flood. Any newborn first born sons in Egypt. You can say, well... we all are sinners so it's ok for God to murder babies, but I think God is better than that.

I think you have to come around your circular logic if I may make a constructive criticism. Because the Bible says so, is an end to all argument. If you accept that a fetus in a woman's stomach is an evil sinner, you might believe that God is justified in zapping it.

Were all the butterflies save for two sinners? Were all the begonias sinners? I could punish my kid by killing him for sassing me, as the old testament suggests, but why would roasting his pets as well be justified?

If you believe that God gets angry, jealous, hurt, you abscribe to him human emotions that are petty. God is not petty. I do not believe any more that God would punish the innocent, and yes I dare say those who have not had a chance to sin yet, still should be offered their chance before being zapped.

Noah is a justification for abortion when it comes right down to it. The parents were sinners, the baby would be a sinner, might as well kill them all. If you are a woman who has sex with a bad person, do what God did... drown your baby like the mother in Texas.

Yes, I absolutely reject a theology that says God would kill unborn babies for the sins of their parents, or the sins of their future. It isn't just, and I don't accept it.

1,105 posted on 07/10/2003 7:45:15 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: ALS
LOL that is so true lol. All this "why can't I write the debate" really tickles me. I spent the evening canning blueberry preserves and pickles. Peach jam tomorrow. Wow what a day it was.
1,106 posted on 07/10/2003 7:46:11 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Evolution is the religion for men who want no accountability)
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To: dogbyte12
"I do think it is quite unsporting for you to come out with the insults, when you know that the other side is trying to avoid it."

HA! That's a joke...

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"Good point. Ignorant, extremist, blowhard fundamentalists have more than one ideology, even when they look alike and have the same goal."

1,056 posted on 07/10/2003 5:02 PM PDT by balrog666

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"But when it comes to uneducated, closeminded, religious fundamentalists, changing mindsets is NOT an option.
They would persecute us to the ends of the earth, they would throw us in jail and shoot us in the streets."

1,041 posted on 07/10/2003 4:25 PM PDT by Aric2000 ----------------------------------

Just a few examples so as not to waste too much of my time...

1,107 posted on 07/10/2003 7:50:24 PM PDT by NewLand
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To: dogbyte12
Your concept of sin:
"Were all the begonias sinners?"

At least you are consistent with all the other clueless evoids. Probably best you avoid concluding anything about that which you know nothing of.

It's safer for all of us that way.

1,108 posted on 07/10/2003 7:54:15 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: NewLand
excellent post :)
1,109 posted on 07/10/2003 7:54:44 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: dogbyte12
"Yes, I absolutely reject...God"

That states your position more accurately.

Man cannot make up his own version of God...like you seem to want to do, at best.

"God is God, and I am not"
Steven Curtis Chapman

1,110 posted on 07/10/2003 7:56:10 PM PDT by NewLand
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To: dogbyte12
Some interesting scripture that coincides with your thoughts. Job is considered by most theologians as the oldest book of the Bible.

Job 9:8-9
8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.


For those who believe Genesis is the only passage that teaches special creation.

Isa 45:12
12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

For the second law of thermodynamics.
Isa 51:6
6 Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment,

Heb 1:11-12
11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

Psa 104:2
2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:

For those Flat-Earth pointers.
Isa 40:22
22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Isa 34:4
4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll:
1,111 posted on 07/10/2003 7:58:01 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: balrog666
You know I try to tell people who are substance (( prescription too )) addicted that they have to increase the dosage they take because their tolerance increases and the increasing amounts of drugs // alcohol consumption create damaging side effects !

They all say they have ... " good tolerance " and --- " WHAT SIDE EFECTS " !

Not to mention their paranoia and whacked ego retarded trivia fixations - obsessions !
1,112 posted on 07/10/2003 7:58:47 PM PDT by f.Christian (( bring it on ... crybabies // bullies - wimps - camp guards for darwin - marx - satan ))
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To: bondserv
I just read Job last night (the whole book). The 84 questions God asked Job was very revealing. HI bond :)
Unicorns, behemoth, Leviathan, fascinating.
1,113 posted on 07/10/2003 8:00:09 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Evolution is the religion for men who want no accountability)
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To: bondserv
toss these in...

Malachi 4
4:1
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
4:2
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3
And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
1,114 posted on 07/10/2003 8:01:53 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: ALS
So, actually, there is a Big Bang, only it comes in the end rather than the beginning. :)
1,115 posted on 07/10/2003 8:02:58 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Evolution is the religion for men who want no accountability)
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To: longshadow
Bailing out for the evening. Placemarker.
1,116 posted on 07/10/2003 8:04:57 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: goodseedhomeschool

1,117 posted on 07/10/2003 8:04:57 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: NewLand
Yes, I absolutely reject...God"

Sigh... unless one is a fundamentalist, you are a heathen pagan. Ok. You win. I believe the earth is 6,000 years old, that dinosaurs were on the ark, that we have mutated into all the different races since Noah. I believe that Cain, made his way into a bustling city even though he and mom and dad were the only ones around. I believe, I believe.

For me, it is just like saying if you don't accept that Zeus and Hera exists, you are an atheist. You can use that argument if it makes you feel happy. You reject Krishna and I don't hold that against you.

1,118 posted on 07/10/2003 8:05:12 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
Actually, adam and Eve had other kids. Cain probably married his sister.
1,119 posted on 07/10/2003 8:06:46 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Evolution is the religion for men who want no accountability)
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To: NewLand
Excuse me Newland, but I was speaking specifically of RWP's links, Why did you take it personally as an attack on Christians.

You have a guilty concience, give you a few ideas?

I was speaking specifically of the links, did you read them?

I somehow doubt it.
1,120 posted on 07/10/2003 8:09:12 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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