Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]

Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

[Stultis]

You see ((NAZIS!)) everywhere you look, JesseShurun is certain he's about to be thrown into a gulag, and ALS thinks we're all out to ban him. (Well, one outa three ain't bad.)

How you can cackle about someone else's hypothetical paranoia is beyond me.

[f.Christian]

Where's medved ?

[NewLand]

The missing link! You found it!

Proof at last, proof at last, thank Darwin almighty, proof at last!

[dogbyte12]

Conservatism should be a battle about truth and freedom, not simply about conserving old ideas that don't work.

Should we conserve affirmative action after it has been around half a century? Should we conserve slavery? That went back to the bible ya know.

Truth is truth. If God wants to explain to us why things appear older than 6,000 years, but in actuality are not, he is quite powerful enough to let us in on the secret.

I am not trying to "christian bash" here, just fundamentalist bash. Most jews, who are the people, who the torah was handed down to, don't accept the science in it as God breathed, but take it as people trying to understand how God created the universe.

I am sure that God could change the speed of light so that a star from 50,000 light years away, could shine light on us now, in the "6,000" years the universe has been in existence. But, I believe that is nefarious, and it is not an attribute I would attribute to the creator.

It is very conservative to respect science. Not to worship it mind you, but to not stick our heads in the sand and try to make it go away. It does not make God not exist, if the entire world wasn't covered in a flood. It doesn't make God vanish if there were Neanderthals 10,000 years ago.

I am a bit disturbed honestly at the "faith" of fundamentalists, who seem to say that if the science recorded by goat herders was false, that rejects God in any way whatsoever.

I personally choose to believe that the Noah story is both false based on the science of it, and the morality of it. I reject a claim that God would kill unborn children, toddlers, the mentally feeble, the aged, and all but two of each species of animals, when a more "surgical strike" was possible. This is not rejecting God. This is rejecting the veracity of a story that science and reason reveals as untrue.

[f.Christian]

When I was a kid ... rubbish pickin and a lot of other weird habits --- were a taboo !

[ALS]

Sounds to me like your idea of conservatism is conserving ancient swamp gas paganism.

more chicken little science

[PatrickHenry]

Gentlemen: This thread has gone over 1,000 posts in one day, and we have not had any abuse incidents. I commend you all for your discretion and, when circumstances required it, your forbearance. It would be splendid if this thread were still here in the morning.

[ALS]

Perhaps you evoids have learned your lesson on button pushing.

perhaps not, we'll see

[PatrickHenry]

God Bless America

and Virtual Ignore too!!

[dogbyte12]

Well gee ALS, you are the person calling others names here. evoids??? and I believe in swamp gas paganism just because I don't believe the flood story?

I want to conserve reason. If reason for you means swamp gas paganism, so be it, I suppose. But, I do think it is quite unsporting for you to come out with the insults, when you know that the other side is trying to avoid it.

[NewLand]

"I reject a claim that God would kill unborn children, toddlers, the mentally feeble, the aged, and all but two of each species of animals, when a more "surgical strike" was possible. This is not rejecting God. This is rejecting the veracity of a story that science and reason reveals as untrue."

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"Every word of God is flawless"
Proverbs 30:5

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"As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear."
Matthew 13:40-43

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It's funny to watch a mere man try to 'out think' God. hehehe...

[js1138]

The orignal point I was trying to make to the prof, was that not all Christians were racist. In my opinion, most were not. For every racist preacher on the radio, I contend there were ten who were not racist.

A lot of people were just silent. I never heard an overt word of racism at home or in church. I was 40 years old before I found out my mother had refused to rent apartments to blacks. People in my neighborhood never said a word against Jim Crow.

[ALS]

[ALS]

If you were concerned about insults, you would agree with post #202.

[goodseedhomeschool]

I suggest you direct your questions to him. I am sure that all evos would love 100 to 1 odds but guess what? Even with 100 evos in the room with him....He would still win. He has truth on his side. I think that's all I can say to you because you would argue with a fence post. He does not lie, that I can tell you is true. If you think you are qualified to take him on either written, verbal or hanging form your tree, be my guest, just let me know when so I can watch you fall. Thank you :)

[dogbyte12]

's funny to watch a mere man try to 'out think' God. hehehe...

I absolutely agree. That is why trying to men trying to explain rainbows by telling each other that God killed all the innocent animals, the babies, the fetuses, in a homicidal rage, really wasn't a good idea.

They should have thought first before they wrote that blasphemy.

[ALS]

Name one "innocent person" God has killed.

[f.Christian]

Reducing theology to a ... child's caricature * --- sure makes it easy to dismiss, doesn't it?

100 posted on 07/02/2003 8:53 PM PDT by dsc

... * ... " no such thread " --- hmmmmmmm !

[goodseedhomeschool]

HI ALS. Did ya hear me on the show? I was nervous but I have more for the show tomorrow.

[ALS]

I missed it! arghhhhhhhh