Savage Fired After Anti-Gay Remarks to Yolo County Man

Sacramento Bee ^ | July 8, 2003 | J. Freedom duLac

[FourtySeven]

You should only get AIDS and die, you pig.

Maybe not a "death threat" technically. Wow, you really got me there. I clearly was wrong; Savage was only joking with the man! Next time I have a disagreement with someone, I'll just say, "You should get AIDS and die, you pig", and we'll all just have a big laugh over it. < /sarcasm >

Go ahead and listen to your idol Savage. I'm guessing you're the type of person that doesn't see anything wrong with wishing someone would contract a horrible disease in any circumstance; you two make a perfect couple.

I'm really just posting my thoughts on Savage in the hopes that the more rational FReepers and the lurkers out there can see he's really not worth the time, unless you want to spend the rest of your life simply filled with hate. And by the way, if you want to have a "leg to stand on" to criticise the liberal comments as documented in bmwcyle's post #26 of this thread, you have to be consistent and criticise when some hothead does the same thing on the "right" side.

Maybe you're comfortable with being so hypocritical, but I'm not.

[bmwcyle]

I also respect people more who have the courage to say things like that directly to my face. Only a coward says it behind someone's back. I guess you side with cowards.

[FourtySeven]

I don't (or didn't before now) hate Savage. I never had an agenda against the man. I hoped he'd do well.

Please read all my posts on this thread up to this point, as I've addressed your points in previous posts.

[isthisnickcool]

but making death threats to a caller will NEVER fly

What garbage! I just downloaded the audio stream and he madeno death threat. I've listened to Savage for a long time on the radio. Never heard him make anything like a death threat.

All this "death threat" stuff is moot anyway. Savage does not know who he was talking to in the first place! Suppose I said the same thing to you here or said "I'm going to kill you JennysCool". I would not, of course. But how would I do that anyway? You could be in China for all I know. So? I go to China and start yelling your screen name? Don't know your real one.

Interesting comments here. I've listened to Savage on the radio for some time. Most nights. I have never seen his TV show. I'm amazed it was live without any delay. Savage can be very acerbic and sarcastic. He takes some getting used to. The accent grates on most of us Texans. But I know people from New York and New Jersey and some of them make Savage seem like a wimp language wise. One person I know was on a TV show about some older ladies. The show had the word "Golden" in it. In real life you would not believe the mouth on her. Oh my!

BTW, who here has been around TV productions? They are all so scripted it's boring. It appears that at least Savage's TV show had some zing to it. But he went off on the wrong group. Or seemed to. There are too many queers in the "biz" to let what he said (which was kind of funny) slide. So, he got politically corrected off the TV.

We might as well just all agree the only thing that can be shown on TV is a bowl of milk. But then THAT would bother somebody too.

Sticks and stones......

[JennysCool]

Hmm...Perhaps that WAS a bit of a misnomer. Death wish is probably more appropriate.

[tallhappy]

Maybe this was some of that 'psychological nudity'...

Exactly.

It's like hiring Salvador Dali to paint and then firing him for painting something too surrealistic.

[tallhappy]

Yes, thanks. I'm sorry if I came on too strong. Some people are doing this purposely to distort.

They are the same people who would claim saying, "take a long walk on a short pier" is a death threat if it involved views contrary to theirs.

[JennysCool]

I'm very proud that conservatism has made it back from the nadir of the Clinton years. I enjoy people like Coulter and the "reborn" Dennis Miller who mix wit with their politics while managing not to alienate the Great American Middle. They -- along with Fox News, Free Republic and other outlets -- have restored common-sense Conservatism to its rightful place in the national dialogue, which helps our common-sense President to shine.

If Savage wants to be a shock jock, fine, more power to him. But with the strides we've made, I don't want to see Conservatism's enemies given a cudgel to strike us with. And you just KNOW the stories intimating that ALL conservatives are intolerant based upon this Michael Savage incident are just a breath away. That's something we simply don't need.

[tallhappy]

Go ahead and listen to your idol Savage.

I'm not a big Savage fan. He is not my idol. He is not conservative. I don't agree with all his comments. In fact his comments are all over the board and contradict each other from day to day.

But I see you have devolved in to ad hominum -- and false one at that -- that Savage is "my idol".

Would you say "take a long walk on a short pier is a death threat?" Would it be worth being fired over?

This article pretty much proves the whole thing is a big nothing, distorted and taken out of context. The guy called with his harrassment, Savage figured it out, he then responded in kind with insults and asking if the caller has nothing better to do?

[republicofdavis]

"I think people here marching lock stock in lemming formation following and propigating the leftist distortion and lies is worth having a bee in a bonnet about."

That's not what I'm doing. I don't care at all what the leftists think about him. And personally, while I used to listen to his radio show, I slowed down on that because there was too much thoughtless ranting in between the good points. I like my talk with a little less heat. But hey, to each his own.

I'm not sure what the "leftist distortion" you're talking about is. He wasn't fired for making death threats. He was fired for making extremely inappropriate comments that caused concern at his employer. Utterly predicatble.

[republicofdavis]

I agree entirely. There is much more conservative opinion that is presented in a mainstream fashion than ever before. Yet have one conservative make a ridiculously childish comment, and get his totally predictable firing, and suddenly conservatives are being "politically-corrected" out of existence.

[tallhappy]

That's not what I'm doing. I don't care at all what the leftists think about him. And personally, while I used to listen to his radio show, I slowed down on that because there was too much thoughtless ranting in between the good points. I like my talk with a little less heat. But hey, to each his own.

Apparently not, because he was fired.

Utterly predicatble.

Who predicted it?

And, you are marching the liberal kool-aid parade. If you are not aware of that, you should become more self aware.

Extremely inappropriate comments -- yes you have the lemming talking points down pat.

They hired him to make extremeley inappropriate comments.

Do you or anyone else know if Savage gets the dough owed by MSNBC? My guess is yes.

[tallhappy]

Another way you are carrying the leftist liberal water is this: "have one conservative make a ridiculously childish comment".

Savage has never been conservative and to his credit has gone out of his way to say he isn't. You are doing their guilt by association work for them.

This sort of media hysteria is documented in Coulter's book Slander well. This is a text book case -- and you are playing along all the way.

[isthisnickcool]

And you just KNOW the stories intimating that ALL conservatives are intolerant based upon this Michael Savage incident are just a breath away. That's something we simply don't need.

You have bought into the lefts BS. Some people react to the left as if they have been trained the same way you would a dog. Sit. Speak. Roll over. Good doggie. Here is a milk bone. Be a good puppy to us liberals and we won't hit you with our rolled up newspaper.

Count me out.

Keeping with the dog metaphor. Savage made a comment that the male doggies that hump each others legs, lick each others places and sniff each others backsides didn't like. So what!

[republicofdavis]

I'm perfectly self-aware but I'm seeming to have difficulty communicating with you. You accuse me of using leftist talking points. I havn't actually heard any. When I say his firing was predictable, I'm not saying anyone actually predicted it, I don't even know why you bring that up. But if you had presented me with the facts exactly as they occurred I would have predicted it. Why? Because MSNBC is a big media conglomerate that answers to advertisers and shareholders and would not want to stand up to the barrage that this incident would be certain to generate. As they said it was an easy decision. His ratings were not worth the headaches.

I don't see them firing Joe Scarbrough and he's said plenty of things to fire up the libs. He conducts himself in a way that gets his points across without lowering himself to first-grade level. MSNBC knows there's a market for conservative thought and they're cashing in.

As for the "extremely inappropriate comments" I stand by that. They would have been appropriate for a kindergarten playground but not for national television on MSNBC. And if you don't believe that you should become more aware of the television industry.

[Lijahsbubbe]

I have no idea what you're talking about. Except that you want to insult me for some reason. If you can elaborate w/o further insults I'll respond. If not, don't bother.

[republicofdavis]

"Savage has never been conservative and to his credit has gone out of his way to say he isn't. You are doing their guilt by association work for them."

What are you talking about? I offer my opinions on what I think will happen in a situation and that means I'm actually making it occur?

And so I guess he was kidding all those years when he was going on about being the original "compassionate conservative."

[bmwcyle]

No just calling it like I see it.

[republicofdavis]

"Keeping with the dog metaphor. Savage made a comment that the male doggies that hump each others legs, lick each others places and sniff each others backsides didn't like. So what!"

That will get you kicked off national TV, that's what. And now he's lost a forum to reach a lot more people with his often correct ideas. But hey, he sure got off some good anti-gay lines before he went. Too bad the guy wasn't gay.

[Lijahsbubbe]

Well, explain what you're accusing me of then.