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I agree with Ann Coulter
Newsmax ^ | 7/8/03 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 07/08/2003 7:41:44 PM PDT by DPB101

As might have been expected, Ann Coulter has created a firestorm with her sensational new best-selling book, "Treason – Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism."

Naturally, liberals and Democrats – pretty much the same thing – are infuriated at being indicted as a class of dedicated anti-Americans who beginning with the Cold War found much to be admired in the international communist conspiracy and much to be hated in their own United States of America.

Unexpected has been the reaction of such conservatives as Andrew Sullivan who are offended by Ann’s no-holds-barred polemical style and appear to have been infected by the anti-Joe McCarthy virus.

This virus has spread thanks to the leftist media and socialist dons in academia. Now several generations of Americans who weren’t there when Joe McCarthy was battling to expose hordes of subversives nestled in the bosom of the United States government think he was a bad guy.

For them, it’s simply not stylish to join forces with the very much declasse Wisconsin Senator. McCarthy was not a certified gentleman with all the right Ivy League credentials and club memberships, like Alger Hiss for example. He was a tough Mick, an Ex-Marine street fighter who loved his country and hated its enemies.

To their dismay, instead of wielding a thin dueling rapier in skewing disloyal liberals, Ann uses a heavy Claymore to bash the skulls of a class of people who at the very least hung around the fringes of treachery, or were knee deep in the muck and mire of treason.

As they always do when challenged by facts, her liberal critics settled on a handful of responses, daring Miss Coulter to explain how certain prominent liberals now considered in the common wisdom to have been be fiercely anti-Communist, come off in Ann’s book as less than fervent enemies of communist subversion.

How can you say Harry Truman or Jack Kennedy or Lyndon Johnson – all of whom fought shooting wars against communist aggression – were witting abettors of treason? she’s asked every time she faces a liberal critic.

Or how can she defend Joe McCarthy when he conducted a war of terrorism and repression against hordes of innocent loyal American liberals.

And again, using that old tactic of admissions against interest, allow that sure, a lot of liberals acted against America’s best interests, but it isn’t fair to lump these unfortunately mistaken liberals in with all the good liberals.

Let’s take these criticisms one at a time:

How can Coulter make a case that liberals were busy betraying America when such well-known Americans as Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson and John F. Kennedy were such dedicated anti-Communists.

Easy. As Coulter repeatedly states in her book, Joe McCarthy was not running around with a red catching net, seeking to find communists under the White House beds, in Hollywood, in the media or in academia where they abounded.

McCarthy was seeking solely to uncover people who fit the profile of security risk as identified under President Eisenhower’s executive order 10450, which stated plainly that should extensive investigations reveal that if any questions existed concerning the fitness of a government employee from the standpoint of national security, that person should be discharged.

Even prior to that order, evidence that an official of the U.S. government was a security risk would have demanded that person be barred from any government post in the interests of national security.

As Coulter reveals in her book, Harry Truman not only ignored strong evidence that Alger Hiss and Harry Dexter White were agents of the Soviet Union and thus dedicated to the overthrow of the United States and Soviet victory in the Cold War, but actually advanced their careers.

Moreover, his administration was honeycombed with secret Communist agents. And when Truman was advised of the existence of the Venona documents which showed the extent of Soviet penetration of the government, he allegedly dismissed the decoded Soviet cables as a "fairy story," just as he called the charges against Hiss as a "red herring."

Dedicated anti-Communists don’t defend communist subversion of the United States government. Truman did. He may have been a foe of armed Soviet aggression and dragged America into a war he would not allow his generals to win, but the record shows he was soft on communist subversion within his administration.

President Kennedy is also paraded out by Coulter’s critics as another fierce anti-Communist – after all, he took us into Vietnam – another war all those loyal Democrats would not allow us to win.

Moreover, Kennedy continued to allow people, about whom serious doubts concerning their loyalty would have kept them out of government service, to infest his administration at the highest levels. And when one genuine anti-Communist government official sought to enforce EO 10450 and keep unsuitable appointees from working at the State Department, he was parboiled and hung out to dry.

Kennedy’s election gave the liberals an opening to bring a lot of old discredited security risks back into government service. Not long after the election, Secretary of State Dean Rusk and Bobby Kennedy met with State Department security chief Otto Otepka to discuss the possibility of obtaining security clearance for one Walt Whitman Rostow, a one-worlder who had once written a book calling for "an end to nationhood," and had been chosen to be J.F.K.’s chief foreign-policy planner.

Otepka was stunned. Rostow, he knew, had been denied security clearance three times during the Eisenhower administration. He told Rusk and Kennedy about Rostow’s background, how he was the son of a socialist revolutionary; had long consorted with Communist Party members, including known Soviet spies; and that two of his aunts had been identified as members of the Communist Party.

Otepka also explained that U.S. Air Force Intelligence had branded him a security risk, and the CIA had dropped him from a sensitive contract. Under the strictures of Executive Order 10450, Otepka explained, security clearance could not be given to Rostow – not, at least, without a new, full-fledged FBI investigation.

In his book, "The United States in The World Arena," Rostow wrote: "It is a legitimate American national objective to see removed from all nations -including the United States- the right to use substantial military force to peruse their own interests. Since this residual right is the right of national sovereignty and the basis for the existence of an international arena of power, it is, therefore, an American interest to see an end to nationhood as it has been historically defined."

He wrote about a "convergence" between the U.S. and the Soviet Union and ridding the vocabulary of such formulations as capitalism vs. communism. He was one of the principle advocates of escalating the troop buildup in Vietnam while at the same time contributing to the "Rules of Engagement" declassified in 1985 which insured that we could not win the war.

Instead of sending Rostow back to exile, Rusk and the Kennedys began a long-running brutal campaign designed send Otepka into exile. Kennedy would simply ignore this derogatory information and appoint Rostow special advisor in 1961, where he influenced the Bay of Pigs operation, Vietnam policy, and military disarmament. Rostow would remain with Johnson until 1967.

But the Rostow case was just the beginning of the Kennedy’s war on national security. 152 waivers of security approvals s were signed in contrast to the mere five waivers issued under the eight years of the Eisenhower administration. Many security clearances simply bypassed Otepka's Division of Evaluations. Rusk's new security chief, John Reilly, rubber-stamped them. Walt Rostow was slipped into the State Department, heading its policy planning council. There he authored the infamous "Rostow Papers," which laid out these goals for American foreign policy: unilateral disarmament, world government, and accommodation with the Communist world. With Rusk, he would help engineer the Bay of Pigs disaster as well as the Vietnam War – a war calculated to dispirit America and embroil it in turmoil.

When in October, 1963 JFK was questioned about the treatment accorded Otepka (he was being charged with violating Department policy by cooperating with a Senate Committee investigating security breaches at the State Department) he had this reaction .

QUESTION: Mr. President, sir, there seems to be some connection between the attempt of the state Department to discharge Mr. Otto Otepka, the Security Officer, and there seems to be some connection between the fact that he gave much information to the Senate Internal Security Committee about various employees of the State Department – William Arthur Wieland and Walter W. Rostow and many others. Also Secretary Rusk has now put forth an order that employees of the State Department cannot talk or give information to this congressional committee. Isn't that a direct violation of law?

THE PRESIDENT: No, it isn't.

QUESTION: That government employees are allowed to give information to Members of Congress and to committees?

PRESIDENT: By what means? You mean secret dispatches?

QUESTION: Well any information. The law doesn't say what it will be. It says that any government employee can give information to Members of Congress or to the committees.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, let me just say that the Secretary of State has been prepared to testify since August before the Internal Security Committee and discuss the case very completely –

QUESTION: Well, but –

THE PRESIDENT: Excuse me. There was a hearing scheduled for early September, but because of the Labor Day week end that hearing did not take place. The Secretary of State stands ready, and he is the responsible officer. Now the best thing to do is to give the Secretary of State a chance to explain the entire case; because in all frankness, your analysis of it is not complete.

QUESTION: Would you like to complete it, sir?

THE PRESIDENT: I will be glad to have the Secretary of State talk to the Internal Security Committee about what it is that has caused action to be taken, administrative action to be taken, within the Department of State, to be taken against the gentlemen you named, the kind of actions he carried out, what the law said, how he met the law, how he didn't meet the law: This is all a matter that is going to be heard by the State Department Board. Then it will be heard by the Civil Service Commission for review. Then it can be discussed in the courts.

That little exchange showed how complicit JFK was in this attempt to silence a real anti-Communist government officer.

Sorry, critics, JFK was not anti-Communist – he allowed security risks to serve in his administration at the highest level.

Much the same can be said about Lyndon Johnson. He followed the lead of fellow liberal Democrat presidents, refusing to rid the government of men like Rostow and other security risks. And he continued the persecution of Otto Otepka.

In another press conference on March 13, 1965 there was this exchange between LBJ and a reporter.

Mr. President, sir, I would like to change the subject to another matter. Mr. Otto Otepka, a top security officer in the State Department, faces dismissal for answering the questions of some Members of Congress who were investigating the security of the United States. I would like to know if you can't stop this dismissal.

THE PRESIDENT. I have had some conversations with Secretary Rusk concerning that case, and I have complete confidence in the manner in which he will handle it.

Johnson knew it was Rusk who launched the get Otepka campaign almost as soon as he took office at State, and he knew how Rusk would " handle it." He would get rid of Otepka, but not the security risks.

During the mid-1950s, Otepka reviewed the files of all State Department personnel and found some kind of derogatory information on 1,943 persons, almost 20 percent of those on the Department payroll. He testified at Senate Internal Security Subcommittee hearings years later that of the 1,943 employees, 722 'left the department for various reasons, but mostly by transfer to other agencies, before a final security determination could be made. Otepka trimmed the remaining number on the list to 858 and in December 1955 sent their names to his then boss, Scott McLeod, as persons to be watched because of Communists associations, homosexuality, habitual drunkenness or mental illness.

Wrote Coulter "Everyone says liberals love America, too. No they don’t. Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." That, liberals say is slander. They say it confuses good liberal with bad liberals. But Coulter maintains that all liberals are the same and the record shows she’s right.

One only needs to, look at what defines liberals: they universally attack America’s foreign policies. When the U.S. is at war, no matter who we’re fighting or what we are fighting, liberals attack the U.S. and side with our enemies. It was that way in Vietnam and it’s that way today, in Iraq.

Hear what liberal Gary Kamiya of the left-wing Salon.com has to say. "I have a confession: I have at times, as the war has unfolded, secretly wished for things to go wrong."

He wished, he said, for the Iraqi’s to resist the U.S. attack more vigorously, that "the Arab world would rise up in rage" – he wished for "all the things we feared would happen." And, he added, he was not alone – "a number of serious, intelligent. morally sensitive people (read "liberals") have told me they have had identical feelings."

He dismissed the idea that once the shooting started liberals should get on board and support the troops. "But there is one argument against this: what if you are convinced that an easy victory will ultimately result in a larger moral negative – four more years of Bush, for example ..."

Better that American soldiers should die than that Bush should be re-elected.

What defines liberals? They are universally in favor of abortion (killing unborn babies is OK, killing Ho Chi Minh’s or Saddam’s thugs is wrong), gay rights and homosexual marriage, socialism and universally against the kind of society handed down to us by the founding fathers (dead white Europeans) or strict interpretation of the Constitution.

There are no good liberals because liberalism as it has come to be in the United States is inherently bad.

In Treason Coulter tells us that everything we know about Joe McCarthy is a lie. She lays out the evidence for this assertion but her critics ignore it. It is, to them, an article of faith that Joe was the Devil incarnate, and no one can be allowed to shatter that illusion.

"The myth of 'McCarthyism' is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times.," she wrote "Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. The portrayal of Sen. Joe McCarthy as a wild-eyed demagogue destroying innocent lives is sheer liberal hobgoblinism. Liberals weren't hiding under the bed during the McCarthy era. They were systematically undermining the nation's ability to defend itself, while waging a bellicose campaign of lies to blacken McCarthy's name."

It is claimed that McCarthy was wrong in claiming that there was a plague of Communist subversion afflicting the government. Release of the Venona intercepts and other documents concerning the extent of communist subversion disproved that lie.

It is claimed that Joe McCarthy persecuted innocent people and that Americans trembled in fear that they would be caught up in Joe’s net, but the record shows that no such reign of terror ever existed. The only people who trembled were those with secrets concerning their flirtations with Communism or who had something else to hide. And the liberals can’t point to a single one of those people Joe ever attacked. As Coulter insists, McCarthy’s only targets concerned subversives in the government.

McCarthy was castigated for attacking General Ralph Zwicker who was portrayed by the media and the liberals as a staunch and honest army officer. But in testimony before the McClellan Committee on March 23, 1955, Zwicker denied giving McCarthy aide George Anastos derogatory information about Irving Peress, – who McCarthy charged had been promoted despite the fact he was a communist – in their telephone conversation of January 22, 1954.

When Anastos and the secretary who had monitored the conversation both testified under oath and contradicted Zwicker, the McClellan Committee forwarded the transcript of the hearing to the Justice Department for possible prosecution of Zwicker for perjury.

McCarthy had been investigating lax security at Ft. Monmouth, New Jersey. He was attacked on the grounds that there was no security problem there, where Zwicker held a command.

In his 1979 book "With No Apologies," Barry Goldwater wrote that "Carl Hayden, who in January 1955 became chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee of the United States Senate, told me privately Monmouth had been moved because he and other members of the majority Democratic Party were convinced security at Monmouth had been penetrated. They didn’t want to admit that McCarthy was right in his accusations. Their only alternative was to move the installation from New Jersey to a new location in Arizona."

McCarthy’s Senate colleagues allegedly censured him for his reckless activities and smearing of innocent people to hear the libs tell it. That’s not quite the story.

The campaign to destroy McCarthy began on July 30, 1954, when Sen. Ralph Flanders introduced a resolution accusing McCarthy of Conduct Unbecoming a Member of the United States Senate.

Flanders, who had told the Senate two months earlier that McCarthy's 'anti-Communism so completely paralleled that of Adolf Hitler that he struck fear into the hearts of any defenseless minority, had been given a laundry lists of charges from the far-left National Committee for an Effective Congress.

McCarthy's enemies ultimately accused him of 46 different counts of allegedly improper conduct and a special committee was set up – the fifth one to investigate McCarthy – under the chairmanship of Sen. Arthur Watkins, to study and evaluate the charges.

After two months of hearings and deliberations, the committee recommended that McCarthy be censured on just two of the 46 original counts. At a Special Session of the Senate convened on Nov. 8, 1954, these were the two charges to be debated and voted on:

1) That Sen. McCarthy had "failed to cooperate" in 1952 with the Senate Subcommittee on Privileges and Elections that was looking into certain aspects of his private and political life in connection with a Resolution for his expulsion from the Senate and

2) That in conducting a senatorial inquiry, Senator McCarthy had "intemperately abused" Gen. Ralph Zwicker. But too many senators were unhappy about the Zwicker count, because the Army had shown contempt for then committee chairman McCarthy by ignoring his letter of Feb. 1, 1954 and then going ahead and giving Major Irving Peress an honorable discharge the very next day.

Believing that McCarthy's conduct toward Zwicker on February 18th was at least partially justified they dropped the Zwicker count at the last minute and replaced it with the charge that he had called the Watkins Committee as an "unwitting handmaiden of the Communist Party" and described the special hearings as a "Lynch Party" and thus he had acted in a manner contrary to Senate ethics and tended to bring the Senate into dishonor and disrepute, to obstruct the Constitutional processes of the Senate, and to impair its dignity."

On Dec. 2, 1954, the Senate voted to "condemn" Sen. Joseph McCarthy on both counts by a vote of 67 to 22, with the Democrats unanimously voting in favor and the Republicans split down the middle.

In choosing to explode the McCarthy myth, Ann Coulter, took on one of the liberals’ most cherished articles of faith. Had she simply accepted that myth the furor over Treason would be more or less muted compared to what it is now. Instead she took the hard choice, and in so doing infuriated the left which will now treat her as they treated Joe.

She’s given them a new hobgoblin – Coulterism that they can now rant and rave about for years to come.


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To: DPB101
Coulter bump!
21 posted on 07/08/2003 8:53:00 PM PDT by Capitalism2003
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"I know a FReeper who probably has this tattooed on his butt."

You know, that's a really weird coincidence. I have been considering getting a tattoo that reads 'Ann Coulter agrees with me.'

I can't even imagine controversy among Conservatives over the notion of widespread communist infiltration in our government, society and lives.

Commies, like flys, lay their eggs in every thing and count on percentages to carry the day. Sane people need a mega-size can of 'Raid' and get to work ASAP.

Hell, we just finished eight years of Marxist occupation of the White House. It's a good thing they were reprobates and habitually preoccupied with their genitals or we'd really be in the tall grass.

I firmly believe that we don't know the long, short, part or whole of it all - and likely never will. Suffice it to be aware of the threat, it's history and methods and be willing to deal with the scum as they surface.

Go, Ann, go!
22 posted on 07/08/2003 8:56:15 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: Hildy
Sad but most likely misunderstood. Many commnunists that sucessfully penetrate security and infiltrate government use the current blacklist items to their advantage. KGB agents become Jewish emigres, communinsts become anticommunist.

Communists, progressives, ideologues and the corrupted who have snaked their way into positions of influence, will cause persons such as your husband to be turned away while they bring another person in to replace him, someone who they can order around and who will add to their growing network.

This is not conspiracy drivel. Scientology tried to infiltrate and populate the IRS with its members in the 70's and 80's. Physicians from India took over residency programs in NYC in the 90's and accepted only politically designated progeny of wealthy members of India society.

On the other hand, maybe someone in GD's HR department was ordered to find a reason, any reason to turn away your husband, so that someone else could get the job.

Being a bricklayer and a fisherman are great occupations and in my opinion more honorable if pursued honestly.

I worked for NASA in the 80's in a high profile position, with alot of influence and weight. I can tell you that one of GD's premier Space Shuttle programs was laced with gross safety violations. The worst part was the management and staff tried to coverup the violations because they were under budgetary pressure. That is not only dishonest but criminal. I was very much a significant voice in canceling GD's STS program. That was in 1985.

I am sorry that you faced an injustice but I am surprised to find anyone in this life that has not. My advice to all is to make sure you get the facts before jumping to conclusions. Often all is not what it appears to be.
23 posted on 07/08/2003 8:58:15 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: henderson field
It took a lot of brilliance to give us the bay of pigs and the Cuban Missile crisis.
24 posted on 07/08/2003 8:59:55 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Hildy
During the 40's and 50's San Diego was a major Navy & Marine base. Coupled with Convair, SD was the West Coast hub of defense/military activites.

The Communist party in San Diego presented a huge danger to the security of the entire US. Its members, while few in number, were particularly dangerous, since Convair and the Navy bases and Marine Corps. bases were smack dab in the middle of residential areas with easy access.

If Coronado counts, I am a 3rd generation native of San Diego, who's fairly well versed in the history of San Diego.

Your husband's uncle was probably monitored and deemed a danger, which would have hurt your husband. Not knowing you, but knowing a bit about the Commie party in San Diego at that time, I would guess that your husband's uncle was Jewish.
25 posted on 07/08/2003 9:00:09 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Hildy
That may be, but it had nothing to do with McCarthy.
26 posted on 07/08/2003 9:00:30 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: DPB101
Bless Ann for exposing the Left's "assassination" of a great American patriot, one Joseph McCarthy.

God Bless Senator Joe Mc Carthy, and Ann Coulter! Wouldn't McCarthy absolutely adore Ann?
27 posted on 07/08/2003 9:04:59 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"I agree with Ann Coulter"

I don't have it tattooed on my butt, but I'm headed for the tattoo parlor right now.

28 posted on 07/08/2003 9:06:34 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Dude, it was a joke.

You have GOT to stay away from the double espressos at Starbucks.
29 posted on 07/08/2003 9:07:38 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Cuba serĂ¡ libre...soon.)
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To: DPB101
Ramsey Clarke. I met him once when he was AG for Johnson. Never dreamed that he would turn out the way he has. Maybe he was always that way underneath his facade of statesman and politician.

Scary, damned scary.
30 posted on 07/08/2003 9:09:20 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"It's a good thing they were reprobates and habitually preoccupied with their genitals or we'd really be in the tall grass."

Great observation.

31 posted on 07/08/2003 9:10:01 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: DPB101
Ann Rocks, Commies suck

Nothing new.


32 posted on 07/08/2003 9:12:10 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: onyx
No, I'm Jewish...My husband and his family are SERBIANS!!!!!
33 posted on 07/08/2003 9:12:37 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: DPB101
Ann Coulter, took on one of the liberals’ most cherished articles of faith.

She should tell the left to go choke on a suasage and die of Aids. (Whoops, sorry, that's already been done and didn't go over too well.)

Not sure I'd want any Senator working to 'out' me for whatever might be a politically expedient benefit to themselves. As a gun owner I shudder to think what a Ms. Feinstein might do in an equally biased era where patriotism is considered contemptable.(Like today!)

34 posted on 07/08/2003 9:13:34 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: lainie
Ann Coulter sums up best why the McCarthy myth has endured on pages 8 and 9. Liberals had no choice. They were locked into a worldview, a religion, they had to defend no matter what:
...Whitaker Chambers (wrote) "In this century, within the next decades (it) will be decided for generations whether all mankind is to become Communist, whether the whole world is to become free, or whether, in the struggle, civilization as we know it is to be completely destroyed." It had been his fate, he said, to have been "in turn a witness to each of the two great faiths of our time"-God and Communism. Communism, he said is "the vision of man without God" . . .These were the irreconcilable opposites--God or Man, Soul or Mind, Freedom or Communism.'

Liberals chose Man. Conservatives chose God. The struggle between the two great faiths was the subtext of every great political conflict in America in the second half of the twentieth century. It was this conflict that fueled the Chambers-Hiss hearings, "McCarthyism", Vietnam, Watergate and the elite' abiding hatred for Ronald Reagan. At the end of the century, the free world won.

It was a crushing defeat for liberals. Not because liberals were necessarily Communists, though many were, but because they had been morally blind to Communism...


35 posted on 07/08/2003 9:13:39 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Hostage
I'm not complaining...nor has my husband. Just an interesting little fact about his life. And just as a PS, his uncle was a devout Communist until the day he died. (Harmless old man) Quite a character. Even after the Fall of the Soviet Union and everything that happened, he was a true believer till the end.
36 posted on 07/08/2003 9:15:39 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: WorkingClassFilth
My husband is thinking of having his SSN tattooed on his forearm.

I think you both should have big neon buttons made instead.
37 posted on 07/08/2003 9:16:00 PM PDT by lainie
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To: budwiesest
Not sure I'd want any Senator working to 'out' me for whatever might be a politically expedient benefit to themselves.

McCarthy knew they would destroy him. He didn't do it to benefit himself.

"Digging out a skunk is a dirty, smelly business. No one wants to be near you when you're done--but someone's got to do it."--Joe McCarthy

38 posted on 07/08/2003 9:17:34 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
Yeah, I know they had to -- I'm just wondering about what documentation from McCarthy himself exists. Trying to set this record straight, defending himself, that sort of thing.
39 posted on 07/08/2003 9:19:25 PM PDT by lainie
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To: DPB101
I need to ditch the book on tape of "Treason" and read the book itself. Listening to the book on tape has droven (driven?) me crazy. It's nice to hear Ann reading her own book, although she reads awfully fast.
40 posted on 07/08/2003 9:20:15 PM PDT by tuna_battle_slight_return (Sine waves.)
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