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A Fundamental Constitutional Right To Have Sex With Children, Too?
Toogood Reports ^ | July 8 | Lowell Phillips

Posted on 07/08/2003 7:08:39 AM PDT by F_Cohen

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To: Protagoras
I'll answer it. The age of consent nationwide should be no lower than 18.
141 posted on 07/08/2003 1:40:44 PM PDT by Houmatt (If it is about what goes on in the bedroom, why doesn't it stay there? And leave our kids alone!)
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To: Protagoras
The SC has not "allowed" homosexual sex,

They didn't? Then what the hell was Lawrence about?

142 posted on 07/08/2003 1:44:09 PM PDT by Houmatt (If it is about what goes on in the bedroom, why doesn't it stay there? And leave our kids alone!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

143 posted on 07/08/2003 1:50:41 PM PDT by Polycarp (When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: F_Cohen
Funds extorted from the American people and then returned as an entitlement opiate, along with the whims of the activist judges, have been instrumental in rendering the Tenth Amendment meaningless.

Amen, brother, except I don't hear any objections from your corner
as Ashcroft's forces roll unimpeded into California and Oregon in
search of homegrown herb or assisted suicide.  Now the Tenth
Amendment is suddenly meaningless, as if its rape and pillage
hasn't be going on with your blessing for the last forty years.  

The US is ready for boarding.  Do you want whining or nonwhining?
144 posted on 07/08/2003 1:51:24 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
The earliest reference I can find online so far is from an archive of Focus on the Family newsletters from 1993 at http://associate.com/ministry_files/Other_Electronic_Texts/Focus_On_The_Family/fofn9401.shtml
145 posted on 07/08/2003 2:16:59 PM PDT by Polycarp (When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: Polycarp
Thanks.
146 posted on 07/08/2003 3:09:53 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Houmatt
I did not say that. The push for the "normalization" of the sexual abuse of children is happening; in spite of Lawrence, not because of it.

Pardon me for commenting in context. Whether you said so specifically or not, the whole gist of this article is about how Lawrence is going to lead us down the road to pedophilia. And that's baloney.

147 posted on 07/08/2003 3:19:32 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: F_Cohen
Tough fight for whoever wants to repeal stauatory rape laws. Stautatory rape laws enjoy one of the largest majorities of approval and support. Age of consent (AOC) has been steadily RISING for the past 100 years in all states. The recent brouhaha over child sexual abuse by Catholic priests is only the tip of the iceberg of public sentiment on this issue.
148 posted on 07/08/2003 6:12:49 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: RaceBannon
When the US was founded it was not illegal for an adult to have sex with a 12 year old (or even as young as 9 in some of the original states). Since that time, AOC has been rising steadily. It is now 18 in many states.
149 posted on 07/08/2003 6:22:44 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
I wont even believe 12, let alone 9 years old.

Are you going by the false assumption that we all married by age 16?

Check your history, that is a myth, marriages that young were rarest of rare

either way, even if you are correct, those were MAN/WOMAN marriges sex, not someone buggering your child.

Better do some more looking up what the laws were, in Ct, it was punishable by death to not worship the God of the Bible too, in the early 1600's. So, I have serious doubts sex with someone under the age of puberty was legal.
150 posted on 07/08/2003 7:50:48 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Clint N. Suhks
How old are you? Are you deliberately obtuse or are you really that childish and stupid?

What the hell is the "liberaltarian" nonsense about? What does that have to do with me?

You think the age of consent is 35. Go sell it to the forum.

Dopey kids,,,aren't there any video games for you to play? Why fool around on an adult forum when you could be out ripping off songs for your mp3 player from the internet. I knew this would happen when napster closed. Dumb kids................

151 posted on 07/08/2003 9:22:03 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Polycarp; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
Ping.
152 posted on 07/08/2003 9:23:23 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Carindal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: Houmatt
Then what the hell was Lawrence about?

The limits of government, didn't you comprehend the post?

153 posted on 07/08/2003 9:23:52 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Houmatt
The age of consent nationwide should be no lower than 18.

Thank you for your unsolicited opinion. Now go tell the dopey kid who thinks it should be 35. First he said there should be none, now it's 35,,go figure.

154 posted on 07/08/2003 9:25:50 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: af_vet_rr
Does anybody here seriously think that the SC would allow sex with children, if it somehow made it all the way there

The Europenas have been liberalising their child protection laws for years. This SCOTUS looks to Europe for guidance on matters of mores when ruling against states in America that are guaranteed, supposedly, the tenth amendment.

Doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me.

As evidence I offer Roe and Doe. Roe originally allowed abortion in the first trimester. Doe expanded that to killing them on the way out.

And now we have learned men such as Singer at Princeton who wants to extend that to two years after exiting the womb and Watson who has decided that the Nazi's were right after all vis a vis eugenics.

All things are possible in a world where moral absolutes have gone the way of the Pony Express.

155 posted on 07/08/2003 9:29:27 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Houmatt
What is your point by asking this?

You seem to think that laws among men should be from the ten commandments. Yes or no? If not, why not?

Do you also think morality is relative?

Huh? You been playing follow the leader with straw men? It's anyone's guess where you would come up with an idea like that. Kangeroos have nothing on you when it comes to leaping.

156 posted on 07/08/2003 9:30:12 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: jwalsh07
Heck, does anyone think Peter Singer would deny an animal the right to have sex with a human?


157 posted on 07/08/2003 9:35:19 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Protagoras
Just answer the question.
158 posted on 07/08/2003 9:36:37 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
Which question dopey? Many of your little minions have been asking me stupid questions. But when it comes to stupid questions, you are the king, so ask away.
159 posted on 07/08/2003 10:05:47 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
How old are you?

Probabaly older than you and one who has children.

Are you deliberately obtuse or are you really that childish and stupid?

About what exactly? You’re resorting to the usual name-calling liberals’ do when they can’t defend their position, thanks for not disappointing.

What the hell is the "liberaltarian" nonsense about?

That would be liberals macerating as Conservatives.

What does that have to do with me?

Your flawed hypocrisy and please don’t ask me to answer that again for the umpteenth time.

You think the age of consent is 35. Go sell it to the forum.

I was answering YOUR question, not the forum’s. I thought you’d have some logic for asking it in the context of your assertions to prove me wrong, what if I said 12?

Dopey kids,,,aren't there any video games for you to play? Why fool around on an adult forum when you could be out ripping off songs for your mp3 player from the internet. I knew this would happen when napster closed. Dumb kids................

Oh please, why waste your time even typing such garbage…grow up!

160 posted on 07/08/2003 10:08:08 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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