Posted on 07/07/2003 8:23:12 AM PDT by Antiwar Republican
2. Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, like Justine's. That we did what needed doing in Iraq does not require us to do anything in Liberia. Liberia's neighbors can step up to the plate on this one. The present thug in charge of Liberia is of the supposedly more civilized descendants of the American slaves sent to Liberia. The last thug was of the indigenous Liberians. We do not have such interests in Liberia as to require our winding up placing occupation troops there.
3. Justine is basically in favor of the US adopting national policies of cowardice and non-involvement. In this, he is like the handful of neo-Chamberlains represented by Llewellyn Rockwell and by the Rockford Institute. The continued ability of such people to claim ANY conservative credentials whatsoever as the basis for their desire to have the world and each of its nations run by thugs and anti-American thugs at that, is a disgrace to conservatism. These are "blood and soil conservatives" and largely racists. When they talk or write, listen for the tap, tap, tapping of Neville Chamberlain's old umbrella in the background and his mantra: "Herr Hitler has assured me that with the acquisition of the Sudetenland, his territorial ambitions are at an end. I don't know anyone in Czechoslovakia. Do you know anyone in Czechoslovakia? Why should England (or the U.S.) go to war over Czechoslovakia?"
4. Justine Raimondo (whose real name is Dennis somethingorother) is trying with a handful of other social misfits and eccentric village idiots to revive the isolationism that died on December 7, 1942 and deserved to die on that occasion. We were attacked on 9/11 not because we involve ourselves in the world on an INTERVENTIONIST basis but because we are hated by those who would rule first their nations and then ours (by the UN if necessary).
5. Better to ward off influenza by good nutrition and habits than to have to suppress the symptoms after it strikes. Likewise, in foreign policy, it is better to act pre-emptively.
6. Justine must be sooooooooo disappointed in Howard Dean. The man who favors folks like Justine being allowed the same legal status as married folks has broken Justine's heart or whatever by going native on intervening in Liberia.
7. Of course, what does it say of Dean that he favors intervention in Liberia but not in Iraq? Moral equivalency is idiocy but if we are going to have the sense to reject moral equivalency, let's at least do so in our own nation's interest.
8. Note Justine's naked contempt for religious values in his screed which is understandable given his social habits.
9. We need to close up shop to a substantial extent in Germany in recognition of Germany spitting in our faces over the Iraq War, distributing most of the troops to either those nations further east who support our goals and are loyal or to locations where the troops are actually performing a useful function. If Germany, a junior France unless and until the Christian Democrats and Christian Social Union are back in control, would like American troops in its country, bolstering its economy at the expense of our own, you would think that Germany, even under the red trash running it today, would know better than to poke its thumb in our eye.
10. We need to concentrate and conserve troop strength in genuinely strategic locations. Pulling out of South Korea at this point seems a worthy option after the election of an unreliable government. Allowing Japan to re-arm also makes sense at this point and should be a message to both Koreas and to China.
11. Coming from Justine, the notion of a foreign policy of "consistently minding our own business" is a sure-fire prescription for maximizing the death of the innocent in nations all over the world. Justine is too occupied with himself and his, ummmm, disordered personal obsessions to put up with any old religious values of being his brother's keeper.
12. We need not further empower the United Nations by ignoring the reality of thuggery in other nations. We must apply our limited resources where they will do the most good. Liberia is not likely to be such a place. Our sovereignty is not enhanced by Raimondo's limp-wristed McGovernite policies of national cowardice. Like George McGovern, Justine would, no doubt, crawl on his knees to our nation's enemies to avoid war. Nor, given 9/11, is the safety of Americans enhanced by hiding our collective head in the sand and bleating: "Make the bad dictator go away!" or "It's none of our business! PLEEEEEEASE No more bloodshed, no matter why!" When you are an atheist and a lavender one at that, nothing but your own backside's continued earthly existence matters as much.
13. Note that Justine who describes him/her/itself as "reactionary" would even find Howard the Coward Dean or Dennis the Menace Kucinich worth supporting if they would maintain a consistent policy of national cowardice. I wondewr how that sort of attitude is one of a "reactionary." Maybe the neo-ostriches over at Rockford Institute can tell us whether they too would prefer Dean or Kucinich over Dubya. AND the alleged Catholic Llewellyn Rockwell should answer the same question as to pro-aborts Kucinich and Dean. America wants to know.
The author needlessly disparages the good intentions of the founders of Liberia; although he is correct as to the unfair treatment of the indigenous tribes. While I do not believe it to be our duty to endlessly protect those with whom we have had friendly ties in the past; if we are to intervene anywhere in West Africa, in the interests of humanitarian goals, Liberia is a more fitting place than any other. The question, to me, is whether there is an implied commitment, from that long history, which the writer recites--albeit through clouded glasses--that would imply some moral obligation. The mere fact that the Capital is named after one of our better Presidents, is not determinative by itself.
Frankly, I am not sure of the answer. Therefore I refrain from taking a stand on the immediate issue. I will state, however, that as between Liberia and a further campaign in the Near or Middle East; all else being equal, I would prefer Liberia. The only exception to that, would be if it could be shown that some Near or Middle Eastern Nation was deliberately assisting Bin Laden's group.
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Compared to what happens in places like that, our disorder is downright hospitable.
Oh, but I have now! Joy! You have found me to be one of the two on your thread polite enough to reply to!
Of course all one has to do is use the "Find in Forum" function for your plethora of past replies on your threads to discover that we two here are a rare, rare breed indeed - and that my initial comment is proved by the exceptions.
But please, do not tax yourself further with discerning whether this post is polite enough to reply to. I don't think my faint heart could take it.
In Justine's article, Justine indicates the usual anti-American, anti-military, atheistic, pseudo-libertarian line that sells so well to Pravda for which it writes. Justine, also a faggot, and not known for pro-life views, indicates a willingness to support even Dennis Kucinich or Howard Dean for president (not that any one really gives any used food over whom the Sunnyvale queen may prefer) to get a sufficiently consistent anti-military and cowardly foreign policy, and that necesarily implies that the Sunnyvale lavender queen thinks peace now, peace always, peace yesterday, peace forever and crawling on our national belly before our enemies is worth giving up guns and paying ever more taxes and putting up with ever more regulations.
Bear in mind that one cannot attack Justine without its help in the form of the usual antiwar.com anti-American agitprop and particularly Justine's hilarious efforts.
Why DOES Justine claim to be conservative? It can't be guns, babies, sanctity of actual marriage, low taxes, low or no regulation of business and property, support for the military, American nationalism or sovereignty, tradition in any useful sense, or any other basis than his well-known libertinism (as distinguished from any form of legitimate libertarianism).
We don't normally have to put up with our nation's enemies and other Pravda columnists having their agitprop posted here as though such was conservative in nature. Why do we have to put up with postings of the dishonest work of Justine, the lavender queen? Even Rockwell and Fleming and the Rockford Institute are not as bad as Justine although their foreign policies are rather indistinguishable. At least, Fleming, however airheaded, is normally married with children.
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