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Wal-Mart, Focus on the Family Spar Over Homosexuality
CNSNews.com ^ | 7/07/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 07/07/2003 7:37:43 AM PDT by kattracks

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1 posted on 07/07/2003 7:37:44 AM PDT by kattracks
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2 posted on 07/07/2003 7:47:06 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: kattracks
the company has, in fact, added "sexual orientation" to the list of protected classes in its equal employment opportunity and non-discrimination policies.

Wow. That's SO horrible.

I need to check outside and see if it's raining frogs. /sarcasm

3 posted on 07/07/2003 7:47:32 AM PDT by DAnconia55
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Wow. That's SO horrible.

What's your definition of "sexual orientation"?

4 posted on 07/07/2003 7:51:27 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: kattracks
I'm going to miss shopping there.
5 posted on 07/07/2003 7:57:13 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (My mind is aglow whirling with transient nodes of thought careening thru a cosmic vapor of invention)
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To: Colofornian
Why does sexual orientation have anything to do with "special treatment". Does me, being a hetero, give me special rights and priviledges? Or are these assumed priviledged granted to hetero - married couples, which is the NORM for most of us.
6 posted on 07/07/2003 7:57:31 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Why does sexual orientation have anything to do with "special treatment". Does me, being a hetero, give me special rights and priviledges?

Everyone has a sexual orientation (some have more than one). So, since it's left undefined, in one sense it means nothing because it applies to everyone. But the gay community has co-opted this term as a code phrase for their bandwagon. And now, seeing the success of such a bandwagon, guess who's tailing along? Pedophiles and anybody who wants to be deemed as a "sexual minority" group.

7 posted on 07/07/2003 8:09:12 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: kattracks
"Just as Neville Chamberlain gave in to Nazi Germany's outrageous demands, so Wal-Mart has capitulated to the radical homosexual agenda," Crampton [of the AFA] said.

Bzzzt. Automatic disqualification. Anyone who can't make their case without alluding to Nazism doesn't have a case to make. They're peddling hysteria.

8 posted on 07/07/2003 8:11:50 AM PDT by tdadams
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Ugh. "Until recently, homosexual activists have been tolerant of those who disagree with...their agenda." The minority imposes its will on the majority once again, and now Wal Mart employees have to be subjected to sensitivity training. I hate the fact that sexual preference is the new "skin color" in this country. It should be a non issue. The only group making it an issue are the gays themselves.
9 posted on 07/07/2003 8:18:29 AM PDT by ICX
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To: kattracks
Maxim, Stuff,Cosmos magazine are to racy for Walmarts family values but being a homosexual is ok.
10 posted on 07/07/2003 8:18:54 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Live from the ladies room here at Tubbys DriveIn.)
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To: tdadams
Anyone who can't make their case without alluding to Nazism doesn't have a case to make. They're peddling hysteria.

Translation: I, Grand Wizard of All Rhetoric (GWAR), Past & Future, hereby decree that ALL allusions, references, parallels, history lessons, character lessons, to Nazism are banned from public discourse (apriori), lest you incur my hype that you are a hypester.

But oh great GWAR One, isn't that a form of censorship--a form of encouraging prior restraint of certain expressions?

So be it. Let it be written. Let it be.

But oh great GWAR One, what if one said, "Anyone who can't make their case without alluding to 'peddling hysteria' doesn't have a case to make? They're peddling safism."

"Safism?" What is that oh noble one?

"Safism" is attempting to make the world safe for whatever protected class status you seek to shrink wrap. For some, it's homosexuals. For some it's atheists. For others, it's perpetrating the myth that there's no absolute evil. Therefore, they knee-jerk at comments like Reagan's reference to communism as "evil" and they strife at any linkages being made to the pathways of Nazism.

11 posted on 07/07/2003 8:23:57 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: kattracks
The "Equality Project" is a coalition of pro-homosexual investment groups that use their claimed $100 billion in capital to influence companies to give special employment status based on a worker's claimed homosexuality, just as federal law requires employers to do for immutable characteristics such as race, gender, age and disability.

Sounds like these folks have been taking lessons from Je$$e Jacka$$ and his Rainbow Coalition. Can you spell s-h-a-k-e-d-o-w-n?

12 posted on 07/07/2003 8:26:55 AM PDT by upchuck (Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
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To: Colofornian
If you like to bestow so much credulity to Nazi name callers, knock yourself out. Most sane people see it for the hysteria that it is.
13 posted on 07/07/2003 8:30:05 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: kattracks
I don't work at Walmart. But if I did, and was required to attend "sensativity training", I would probably quit. $6 an hour isn't worth it being exposed to the garbage.
15 posted on 07/07/2003 8:35:35 AM PDT by I still care
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To: kattracks
So far, all I can see in this is that Wal-Mart says that employees shouldn't be discriminated against regarding being hired or promoted based on their sexual orientation. I don't see where there's a big problem in that. And they're already conducting "sensitivity training" to tell people they shouldn't discriminate on the basis of race, religion, etc. in hiring or serving customers, etc.; they're just adding "sexual orientation" to that. It's not like they're creating this training out of whole cloth just for this one issue.
16 posted on 07/07/2003 8:42:31 AM PDT by RonF
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To: tdadams
If you like to bestow so much credulity to Nazi name callers, knock yourself out.

Hmm...If so many folks are hysteria-mongers as you claim, what does one do with one who is hyper about seeing hysterics behind every bush?

Most sane people see it for the hysteria that it is.

If you like to reduce all arguments by "automatic" judgments as to whether they're being made by sane folks or a hysteric, then I suppose all posters should be officially welcomed into your psychiatric couch.

Once again, we have folks who instead of preferring to deal with the issues, like to hit their automatic buzz button & root out some folks' comments with stereotypical labels.

It becomes an easier black & white world that way for them...instead of dealing with the comment, they can write off the messenger as being merely insane.

17 posted on 07/07/2003 8:43:18 AM PDT by Colofornian
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Pedophelia = a crime

Wasn't it THE CRASH that had a song lyric, "Wrong-o, boy-o"?

All pedophelia means is a sexual attraction to children. Since when is an inward attraction a crime? Or, are you a member of the liberal thought police?

Even when homosexuality has been held as criminally culpable in any given culture within history, homosexuals weren't arrested for being inwardly attracted to men.

Homosexuality = not a crime

Only a recent conclusion. Until SCOTUS ruled on sodomy case, technically homosexuality was a crime in well over a dozen states. Sodomy statutes were still on the books in almost 20 states through most of the 90s.

18 posted on 07/07/2003 8:48:45 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: RonF
shouldn't be discriminated against regarding being hired or promoted based on their sexual orientation.

Okay, wise one. I'm a Wal-Mart manager (let's say). How do I know about what a person does in the privacy of their home and how do I keep from "discriminating" against what is not as plain as someone's skin color? Do I now have to listen is to any village gossip lines in order to be such a savvy manager?

What about in urban areas where such gossip lines emit mere trickles? Do I "judge" someone's sexual orientation based upon the ankle bracelet they where? A tatoo? An ear ring in an certain ear? Do we do an employee "group hug" and I watch for certain folks who might be a little more "touchy feely" with members of the same sex?

Please clue us clueless ones in here.

Aren't folks assuming something here...something akin that someone's "sexual orientation" (whatever that is) is somehow broadcast up & down the county they live in!

In other words, what does one person's closet have anything to do with the workplace anyway and why are folks making their private issues into a public whipping boy?

Some folks should keep their right to privacy about what they do in the bedroom out of the lives of others who don't want to know...forcing them to be subjected to workplace-imposed re-education lessons about religion, gender, character, relationships, and marriage.

19 posted on 07/07/2003 9:02:59 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: RonF
they're already conducting "sensitivity training" ...they're just adding "sexual orientation" to that. It's not like they're creating this training out of whole cloth just for this one issue.

The "sensitivity training" in some companies is indeed cut out of new cloth...especially companies with gay activists within the human resources departments of those companies.

AT&T, for example, being a corporate leader in this regard in the 80s and 90s, would once upon a time bring in Brian McNaught or his video ON BEING GAY...which included excerpts like the following: "According to Dr. John Boswell from Yale University, the book of Levi (Leviticus) was probably the only source in both Old and New Testament that clearly talks about men having sex with men. Boswell doesn't believe (as do most Scripture scholars) that Genesis had anything to do with sexuality, nor does he believe that St. Paul in writing to Romans and Corinthians and Timothy (the letter of Timothy) really talk about homosexual sex."

There ya have it. Corporations like AT&T now teaching theology (re-ed version) under the umbrella of "diversity training."

When folks @ these sessions claim that being gay is just like being left-handed, you've got a worldview training session going on...not some mere harmless managerial review process about hiring and firing decisions.

20 posted on 07/07/2003 9:13:23 AM PDT by Colofornian
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