Justice Breyer: U. S. Constitution should be subordinated to international will

WorldNetDaily ^ | July 7, 2003

[aruanan]

In a rare appearance on a television news show, Supreme Court Justice Stephen G. Breyer questioned whether the U.S. Constitution, the oldest governing document in use in the world today, will continue to be relevant in an age of globalism.

Breyer has just shown himself to be irrelevant to the Constitution. It's time for him to go.

[lugsoul]

Okay - so in your mind free exercise requires a government sponsored right to lead others in a prayer of your faith. That's a start. And free exercise also requires the right to engage in political advocacy without being subject to the restrictions of other groups that engage in political advocacy.

Now we see the truth. Your "free exercise" is actually a right to government-sponsored advantage for your chosen faith.

[lugsoul]

Still didn't respond. What unenumerated rights do we have? Or do you believe that the 9th Amendment is completely meaningless?

[4CJ]

At the risk of having my account pulled or banned ...

Nah. If they let dims post, they won't suspend a conservative for stating the truth.

[jwalsh07]

I see you have found someone else with whom to chat about the law. LOL.

Well, the fact that one of my pals got a chuckle out of that lunacy shows that you can find something of value in most anything if you try hard enough. :-}

[jwalsh07]

Well, you're half right, that's a step in the RIGHT direction.

[Jim Noble]

You oughta look into Catholicism

Ohh man...

I've tried-I really have.

Can't get it done.

[ninenot]

Correct. YOU can't. But the Paraclete can.

Stay tuned for further developments.

[exmarine]

Okay - so in your mind free exercise requires a government sponsored right to lead others in a prayer of your faith. That's a start. And free exercise also requires the right to engage in political advocacy without being subject to the restrictions of other groups that engage in political advocacy.

You have it wrong. In my mind, free exercise requires that the govt STAY OUT OF MY FAITH ALTOGETHER! That means if I want to speak of Jesus Christ at my valedictorial speech, then I am free to do so; that means if I want to speak out against a horrible presidential candidate like Gore, I can do so without penalties; that means if my Christian community wants a creche on the grounds of City Hall, it can do so without being harrassed by one lone jerk protestor! Get it?

Now we see the truth. Your "free exercise" is actually a right to government-sponsored advantage for your chosen faith.

That's a laugh. You want to talk about "equal justice" under the law, let's talk about the Michigan decision which gave minorities MORE rights than caucasions! Do you call that equal justice? Again, the infernal SCOTUS has made a bad decision (one after another).

[exmarine]

Still didn't respond. What unenumerated rights do we have? Or do you believe that the 9th Amendment is completely meaningless?

Well, SCOTUS has made a mess of things haven't they? What about the 10th amendment? Does that have any meaning? Since there is no const. right to sodomy, the STATE OF TEXAS RULES under the 10th Amendment. A phantom right doesn't count! Anyone can come up with a phantom right of any kind at any time - you call that law? That, my friend, is LEGISLATION and that is the domain of CONGRESS! SCOTUS has overstepped its constitutional authority - ZERO doubt about it.

And besides, you didn't respond to my earlier: Well, how about if we widen the the option from SCOTUS to Federal Govt (including federal courts and the U.S. Congress)? How about restricting the speech of a valedictorian at graduation? How about the 9th Court decision on the Pledge of Allegiance? How about the 501(c)(3) which restricts pastors from speaking freely on political candidates? That isn't a restriction on free speech? I think it is - why hasn't the SCOTUS overturned that perversion?

I might also ask you why our national anthem hasn't been outlawed? Have you read the the more obscure second verse - it's purely Christian! Egad man! It has to go! Once again, this shows how schizoid this wall of separation crap is. Renquist himself said the "Wall of Separation" was bad history and worse law and should be abandoned. Only those six liberal oligarch tyrants (yes, TYRANTS) believe they can rule any way they want. The day is coming when Americans are going to DEFY that pathetic court. Then what? Hmm? Are they going to jail millions? I think not - the jails are already full.

[exmarine]

There is no doubt that Kennedy in the majority opinion referred to foreign legal precedents in the Lawrence decision (i.e. Kennedy noted that the European Court of Human Rights and other foreign courts have affirmed the ''rights of homosexual adults to engage in intimate, consensual conduct.'') Tell me, now does that have any relevance at all to SCOTUS and the Constitution? Whether you like it or not, this is a precedent and a red flag to anyone concerned about the sovereignty of America and the Constitution. I think you should stop making excuses for these people. Are you their advocate or something? It seems you are one of those who will stand up for liberal judges no matter how bad their rulings are. There is no way you can spin this in order to justify this horrible reference to extra-national laws in the context of the Lawrence ruling.

[exmarine]

And free exercise also requires the right to engage in political advocacy without being subject to the restrictions of other groups that engage in political advocacy.

Are you referring to the 501(c)(3)? Are you going to sit there and tell me that this is not a restriction on free speech? I think you need to read a history of the revolutionary war as it related to preachers and the use of the pulpit for political causes, and I think you need to read teh free exercise clause again - it makes no exceptions for political candidates! In fact, it MAKES NO EXCEPTIONS AT ALL. That's the problem with you and all other constitutional darwinists - you think you can just mold the law of the land into anything you want it to be. I am here to tell you that I won't let you if I can stop it.

[donmeaker]

The problem with saying "all treaties are off in wartime" is many treaties are multinational affairs. The Hague Convention and Geneva Convention are specifically intended to be binding in war. I half believe it it the Hague convention that bans use of letters of marque and reprisal, but may be wrong, it seems to me that the treaty was of earlier date.

[donmeaker]

sola scriptura, and our rights come from G-d, then bow to me for I am the sole voice of G-d to you!

see the problem of getting instruction from G-d? Until G-d has an aol account, and probably after, there will be thousands of prophets (seeking profits) who will be willing to claim to represent G-d. If you want to see what that leads to, visit Iran.

[exmarine]

sola scriptura, and our rights come from G-d, then bow to me for I am the sole voice of G-d to you!

Yeah, right, and I'm Lawrence of Arabia.

see the problem of getting instruction from G-d? Until G-d has an aol account, and probably after, there will be thousands of prophets (seeking profits) who will be willing to claim to represent G-d. If you want to see what that leads to, visit Iran.

Iran has precisely nothing to do with the Holy Scriptures. Sola Scriptura refers to the bible and the bible only, and without the Reformation, there would be no United States, as it was founded by Calvinists fleeing persecution from England.

[donmeaker]

Some were Calvinists. Georgia had a number of Evangelical Brethern. Virginia was settled as a business venture. No one cared what the religion was of the imported slaves, or the many Irish wo came as indentured servants. Some were episcopalians. Florida, Texas, Louisiana and Maryland were settled by catholics. Quakers, rather famously, concentrated in Pennsylvania. I don't think the natives that were there were all that hot for Calvinism. The famous Handsome Lake of the Seneca developed his religion, after exposure to the Christian missionaries. Oh yes, a small number were even Jewish, and contributed mightily to the finance of the Revolution.

[savagesusie]

If Breyer really thinks it should soccumb to international will, Breyer should be impeached post haste.

My thoughts, exactly.

[timydnuc]

Here's an asshole that desparately needs impeaching!

[expatguy]

Why is nothing being done to remove this Judge without further delay.

[Mamie2010]

I thought the Constitution of the Iroquois Nations was the longest-going international constitution in the world. "The Great Law of Peace," whose principals the United States Constitution was partly based upon, was the 'oral' constitution of a federal union of five (later six) Indian nations: Mohawk, Onondagam Seneca, Oneida, Cayuga and the Tuscarora, adopted in 1715 -- was only put into writing in 1915 -- the American Indians were a people of honor and integrity and their word meant something -- that's why they always said the "white man speaks with forked tongue" -- translation -- the 'federal government' of the 'white man' speaks out of both sides of his mouth and couldn't be trusted. Under the 'federal government' of the Iroquois Nations equality and liberty extended to women as well as men -- they were advocates of equality, natural rights, freedom of religion, property rights, etc. The women of the Iroquois Nation owned the land and the status of their lineage. They owned all the possessions of their husbands after marriage, except their horse and rifle -- the men needed a way to go to work -- the women were in charge of the money, and were the tribe's educators and communicators of tradition. The Iroquois Nation whose principals were based on 'freedom' and principals this nation was founded on, became an enslaved people.


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