Agency receives nearly comments on manatee protection (kids used as tools by leftist teachers)

Naples Daily News via SW Florida Sound Off ^ | Monday, July 7, 2003 | By JOEL ESKOVITZ

[AAABEST]

300 School projects, every single one in favor of this abomination and not a single one that supports the families and PEOPLE that are about to have their livelihoods ruined by this junk science scam job?

The author of this article conveniently leaves out a few facts such as the devestating affect that these speed zones will have on the City of Cape Coral, where a 40 minute boat ride to the gulf would be turned into a 3 hour excursion.

Not only that, the West Indies Manatee is an invasive species that devours enormous amounts of sea grass. It wouldn't even winter in the area they're talking about if the enviros didn't strike a deal with Florida Power and Light to keep pumping warm water into the river, enticing it to stay.

[Zavien Doombringer]

"I think you should slow down the speed limits because the manatees can't tell them to stop or tell that they are there," wrote Katy Kraft, an elementary school student in Powhatan, Va.

Why on earth is a Virginia Student worried about manatees?

I have lived in Portsmouth, VA for 25 years and only one Manatee has been found here, it swam the intracoastal waterway up to Hampton, where it was picked up and returned to Florida! If anything, this Intracoastal Waterway has caused more harm if the manatees are leaving thier natural habitat

[AAABEST]

Ping to the South Florida and property rights folks.

[Trust but Verify]

I don't have a problem with the school projects. What 10 year-old doesn't care about maiming and killing a manatee? Invasive species or not, they are God's creatures, do not pose a threat of any kind to humans, and reasonable precautions should be taken to protect them from boaters.

[randog]

Save the Cute Animals (eat the rest)!

Lemme guess--the enviros have human-ized the manatees and probably have a mascot named Manny the Manatee, or some such nonsense.

[DoughtyOne]

I'm found it surprising that an article written about manitee safety and the need for protection didn't include the current number of manitees and how that compares to historical norms. It did mention 95 deaths last year. It didn't mention how many births there were last year.

[AAABEST]

I don't have a problem with the school projects. What 10 year-old doesn't care about maiming and killing a manatee? Invasive species or not, they are God's creatures, do not pose a threat of any kind to humans, and reasonable precautions should be taken to protect them from boaters.

Typical know-nothing canned response.

First of all, this animal doesn't belong here and wouldn't be here if it weren't for humans manipulating God's work. Second we've taken every "reasonable precaution" known to man in regard to this pestilence. We spend more money per manatee around here than we do per child. The reason why they're getting hit by boats more is because the damn things are everywhere nowadays because we've been sucessful. IT'S NOT ENDANGERED.

You sure you're not a lefty type? They use the word "reasonable" every time they want to take unreasonable actions against others.

Of course you have no problem with with leftist teachers from Virginia using your tax dollars for political scam jobs. Given the fact that you just blurt out the first thing that comes to your mind without knowing one single thing about the issue at hand.

[AAABEST]

Lemme guess--the enviros have human-ized the manatees and probably have a mascot named Manny the Manatee, or some such nonsense.

It's worse, we have a "Save the Manatee" license plate, and thousands of ninnies buying them thinking they're saving the earth by doing so.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!!

[SpaceBar]

Blame for this lies squarely on the decision makers, who have failed to demonstrate that they have either the technical expertise or wisdom to recognise that a thousand people walking in the wrong direction is still the wrong direction. When a few hundred-thousandth of a percent of the population have a particular opinion and that opinion is made policy, then we ought to just scrap the Constitution and our representative form of government and just adopt a system where all policy is dictated by letters from schoolchildren. The children are without blame. They are being led and manipulated by dishonest adults who wish to circumvent the normal channels of implimentation of public policy.

[Trust but Verify]

Maybe those of us from other states (like Virginia) should just stay home instead of spending our hard-earned money on over-priced hotels, restaurants and attractions in Florida, since Floridians think of these attractions as a nuisance that should be killed.

The fact is, regardless of how the manatees got there, they're there. And most people actually think that's a good thing. And if a few boaters have to go around or slow down, I don't think it's going to kill anyone or anyone's livlihood.

And yes, I am a conservative, but I refuse to have a knee-jerk negative reaction to everything viewed as pro-environment.

[mtbopfuyn]

Typical know-nothing canned response. First of all, this animal doesn't belong here and wouldn't be here if it weren't for humans manipulating God's work.

What a typical know-nothing canned response. Pray tell where You (capitalized as one would the all knowing God) think they belong? Hmm, kinda like You shouldn't be where ever You are if it weren't for humans manipulating God's work by trekking across Africa (or eating an apple in Eden - Your choice) to inhabit the entire world. The fact is the manatees are there. That is their home. They do not harm man. It is man who is harming them. They are on the endangered list. Slowing boaters down and having protective cages around propellers is very little to ask.

[joesnuffy]

Manatee Meat Cuts **** Manatee Recipes

[joesnuffy]

Hey I didnt steal it ...I wuz just borrowing it...

[corkoman]

The fact is, regardless of how the manatees got there, they're there. And most people actually think that's a good thing. And if a few boaters have to go around or slow down, I don't think it's going to kill anyone or anyone's livlihood.

Fire Ants - look there here. Dont fight them - invite them! Bring them into your home and embrace them.

Any other pearls for us Trust?

I say KILL EM AND GRILL EM!

[Carry_Okie]

While you are technically correct that the manatee is an alien to that stream, I am not sure that putting the word "invasive" on it will stick. It just doesn't fit the image of a sea cow. It might do more to discredit you than to get what you want. Try, "non-indigenous," "alien," or "stray population."

I am certain that there is a bucketload of environmentalist wailing about "thermal pollution' from proposed power plants elsewhere. It would certainly be entertaining to trot that out while reviling its complete lack in your area as evidence of a hidden aganda to sequester an isolated population of manatees contrary to their nature.

Then there are those species that depend upon that seagrass the manatees overgraze. Does Sean have any quantitative data on what the effects on those popoulations are? He could do counts in a similar estuary without a power plant and infer harm to those species where the manatees have taken up residence.

Accuse the environmentalists of holding the manatees hostage in a hostile environment that is incapable of sustaining the manatee population in its natural state. Demand that the power plant install the extra cooling towers (if they haven't already).

OR... compensate all the folks who have to slow their boats down and the business that depend upon them to the point where they don't bitch about it. That's the real price of a manatee refuge. Else it's a taking.

[TonyWojo]

May you be so lucky as to have an endangered species placed in your neighborhood (through the Grace of God). Even if the species is invasive. I wish on you an endangered species in your yard. to create havock in your life, and to give you the opportunity to pray your situation away. Environmental zealot

[AAABEST]

Maybe those of us from other states (like Virginia) should just stay home......

If you're an example of the type of people who want to come here, PLEASE DO stay home. You and your money is neither needed nor wanted.

And if a few boaters have to go around or slow down, I don't think it's going to kill anyone or anyone's livlihood.

I know you "don't think", neither do the gazillions of other people who hear platitudes such as "save the manatee" and come running when called, cash in hand, like hapless useful dopes. Buying license plate and enriching power hungry environmental orgs.

They've already harmed a great many people, and intend to harm a great many more.

FYI, Cape Coral is a marine city that depends on charter fishing, dock building, river and gulf tours etc. in order to SURVIVE. They're recieving a constant trashing by enviros and the FWS who've taken such measures as imposing idiotic dock building restrictions because somehow they've decided (with no scientific evidence) that docks hurt manatees. Yes, the dock builders and merchants who rely on water access are really being hurt badly, the property values of anyone living waterfront really does plummet.

Then to add insult to injury, we have uninformed dingbats come along and making comments like "I don't think it's going to kill anyone or anyone's livlihood."

Well you think wrong, your type of misplaced compassion is harmful. If you want to be warm, fuzzy and compassionate, start caring about the families and their children, not some fat assed sea cow who's main purpose in life is to make enviros wealthy. If nothing else, at least try to know what you're talking about before weighing in on such matters.

[AAABEST]

LOL!!!!!

You need to take some troll lessons from some others who've invaded this board. Lesson #1 is "Don't be an obvious troll by defending leftist ideals when you're a newb who just signed up".

[Trust but Verify]

I say KILL EM AND GRILL EM!

Any other pearls for us, Corky?