God...not G-d

[grumple]

In light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking. Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayton asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the attacks on Sept. 11). Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?" In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school ... the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.

Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued (there's a big difference between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.). And we said OK. Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK. Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we said OK

Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.

Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female body. And we said OK. And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then further again by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK, they're entitled to free speech.

Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.

Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they WILL think of you for sending it. Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!

[safisoft]

My post explicitly spells out the three most common permutations. Including the IHVH version.

Those who read both Hebrew and English would offer only 2 variants: YHVH and YHWH. We are talking about representations of letters which convey a phonetic. The sound "JAY" is not present in Hebrew. The sound "YUH" is, and represented most accurately by the English letter "Y" since that is the English phonetic as well.

am also fully aware of the Yod/Yow/Yah-Hay/Haw-Vah/Vaw/Vow-Hay/Haw

If you say so. Still looking for the missing "J" and the word "Jehova". Also, debate about pronunciation is somewhat muted when cantillation can be traced to quite ancient times. We are talking about minor differences, not the introduction of major sounds like "JAY".

Don't be an imbecile. I wasn't trying to make any other point.

I believe you have made several points here in this thread. Some, most assuredly, you did not intend to make.

[mtbopfuyn]

Typing "G-d" looks to me more like it is a dirty word someone is trying to sneak past a language filter.

Exactly. Filters or beliefs, it still looks like a dirty word abbreviated like that. It's like in Harry Potter and the evil Voldemort is only spoken of in a whispered, "He who must not be mentioned" (it's interesting Rowling is supposed to be an Inkling) or one shouldn't say Beetlejuice three times. And what's abbreviated? There's still 3 characters. God. God. God. That's His name and I'm confident this post will go through proving I haven't been struck by lightening.

[mtbopfuyn]

Oh, and before someone gets all bent out of shape and jumps on me stating "that's His name" (big eye rolls) let me say we all know what I'm saying.

[Dave Elias]

The use of 'Jehova' doesn't make sense in English, but it does in some European languages, notably German. In German 'J' is often pronounced as a 'y' would be in English. Thus 'J' for them is a more accurate representation. Think of 'Jurgen', 'Jaeger' etc. I would hazard this is possibly where the practice originates.

[solitas]

That's not how God typically operates. His purpose is to bring people to salvation, regardless of how they spell His name. God doesn't lightning strike the vast majority of people who use his name in foul and derogatory ways. So why would you expect him to lightning strike someone who was trying to show him respect.

S-A-R-C-A-S-M :) (maybe I should've been more plain...my bad)

[solitas]

LOL - yeah, okay. I saw that article and should've addressed that one. :D

[Hoppean]

Why is it my "little G-D" tag?" I'm not Jewish. However, unlike you, I respect my friends who are Jewish and choose to to spell "God" as "G-d."

In that case, wouldn't it also make sense to follow suit by typing out "J-wish?"

[Catspaw]

It's too bad you missed the Kosher food thread.

[Hoppean]

Only if you call following a 3000 or so year old tradition "new age..."

"New Age" is actually "Old Age"--deriving its practices and beliefs from a number of pre-Christian faiths, such as Hindu spirituality, for example, and even from Jewish sources such as the Kabbalah. Just ask Madonna (the singer, not The Madonna). Or is that M-donna?

[Hoppean]

It's too bad you missed the Kosher food thread.

The subject of food often opens up an amusing can of worms. Have a link?

[Catspaw]

Naw, the thread was pulled. Too bad you missed it. It was a classic.