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2 of 3 Carolinas textile jobs may go in 3 years, study says
The Charlotte Observer ^ | Thursday, July 03, 2003 | TONY MECIA

Posted on 07/06/2003 5:43:12 PM PDT by Willie Green

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Unrestricted trade with China could cause the Carolinas to lose two of every three remaining textile jobs in the next three years, according to a study released Wednesday by the U.S. industry's leading trade group.

The American Textile Manufacturers Institute projects North Carolina will lose 85,000 textile and apparel jobs between 2004 and 2006 -- more than any other state. South Carolina would be the third-hardest hit, with 42,000 job losses, according to the report.

The study is part of a campaign by ATMI and other textile trade groups to persuade the U.S. government to re-impose quotas on certain categories of textile and apparel from China. Government limits on imports of some textile products were lifted last year, and the remaining textile quotas are scheduled to be eliminated in 2005, although tariffs will remain.

By examining the presence of Chinese-made textile products in Japan and Australia, which have no quotas, ATMI forecasts that China will control 71 percent of the U.S. textile and apparel import market by 2006, up from 20 percent this year.

That will cause an estimated 630,000 layoffs nationally in an industry that employs about 1 million, according to the report. Other countries, including those in Latin America and Africa, will also see their textile industries shrivel as China claims a growing share, ATMI said.

In an interview last week with China Daily, Chinese officials said the U.S. textile industry's efforts to limit shipments of Chinese textiles are "groundless" and an abuse of international trading rules.

Between 1998 and 2002, textile and apparel imports to the United States increased 47 percent, to 38.3 billion square meters. During that time, Chinese imports nearly tripled, to 5 billion square meters.

Erik Autor, vice president of the National Retail Federation, said he thinks trading patterns will continue to shift overseas.

"Irrespective of what might happen on quotas or even with respect to China, job losses in the apparel industry in the United States will continue, mainly because it just isn't economic to make commodity apparel in the United States," he said.

Tony Mecia: (704) 358-5069; tmecia@charlotteobserver.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: axisofeeyore; globalism; textiles; thebusheconomy
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To: Willie Green
America furniture manufacturing have been lost to China
41 posted on 07/06/2003 8:15:04 PM PDT by furnitureman
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To: billbears
Statement: "...maybe he can get the votes he loses in this state from across the border"

Response; He probably does. The professional Pols shoot for a few percent of each "Diverse" group. Since we are badly divided that few percent of "Diversity" bloc votes swings elections.

42 posted on 07/06/2003 8:16:21 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Willie Green
Good! Maybe they'll throw out the last of the damn welfare-sucking high-taxing Democrat legislators, councilmen, mayors, Senators, and Congressmen and put in some real job-creating Republicans for a change.
43 posted on 07/06/2003 8:27:14 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: freedomsnotfree
I do agree with you that it's going to happen anyway,.based on our elected sellouts. We ARE witnessing the destruction of the middle class and the freedoms of this country. If you are a middle aged man or younger, you will live to see the ruin of this country if things don't turn around. A country that is not self-sufficient will not remain a country or free, for long...those are the facts

I appreciate your assistance, but I don't need an economics lesson

You are quite mistaken.
You don't understand basic facts.

Your quoted paragraph illustrates that clearly.

44 posted on 07/06/2003 8:28:11 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: freedomsnotfree
You will NEVER hear me argue with tax cuts and less regulation.

Laws against trade are regulations.

45 posted on 07/06/2003 8:28:49 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: TommyDale
I didn't think there were any jobs left in Carolina. Any.

Jobs 1 to 50 of more than 5000

46 posted on 07/06/2003 8:31:25 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: FreedomCalls
Good! Maybe they'll throw out the last of the damn welfare-sucking high-taxing Democrat legislators, councilmen, mayors, Senators, and Congressmen and put in some real job-creating Republicans for a change.

Not many of them left, unless you think they can get Jesse Helms to come back out of retirement.

47 posted on 07/06/2003 8:33:10 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: freedomsnotfree
The stagecoach drivers, track layers, vacuum tube makers, blacksmiths, coopers, drovers, wooden shingle makers, daisy wheel printer repairmen all thank you. Just think of all the people that would be employed today if we would have protected those jobs.
48 posted on 07/06/2003 8:33:18 PM PDT by jayef
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To: squidly
What can we do about it besides bitch and moan on FR?

Pay $30 for a T Shirt made by US union labor, when the market value of the good is $1 ?

Just tryin' to help :)

49 posted on 07/06/2003 8:33:19 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: TommyDale
I didn't think there were any jobs left in Carolina. Any.

Here are the export (as in out of the country) statistics for North Carolina. I don't know where you can find straight production statistics. Denim exports are still holding up. What's with the enriched U-235 exports?

50 posted on 07/06/2003 8:33:51 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Willie Green
Knowing the end is in sight, wouldn't an INTELLIGENT person start heading for a different occupation leveraging whatever skills he/she had? Others do this OUTSIDE the textile industry. Are textile workers above this or too stupid to do anything else? What's the problem? Just wanting to have people pity them over their stubborness in staying in a dying occupation?

You know ole Willie Green, you're becoming a pain in the arse with these repititve whiny postings blaming everyone else but the individual for their earning fate.

51 posted on 07/06/2003 8:35:02 PM PDT by nmh
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To: DraftAshcroft2004
When mill jobs or computer-programming jobs move to Asia, the dollars leave the American economy and tax base!

You should SEE all those Chinese houses made out of American Dollars. Green huts. Everywhere!
And Chinese peasants LOVE to heat their homes and cook their meals by burning good ol' American Greenbacks.


Yeah. I know the point is way lost on you. That's ok. You're in good company.
52 posted on 07/06/2003 8:35:49 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: FreedomCalls
What's with the enriched U-235 exports?

Not entirely sure . . . we do have a few nuke plants, two right near Charlotte I believe.

53 posted on 07/06/2003 8:36:30 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (I barbeque with Sweet Baby Ray's)
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To: nmh
Are textile workers above this or too stupid to do anything else?

They've got people telling 'em all the time, "I'm going to fight to save your job" yadda yadda yadda and most of 'em would like to believe it. It takes time for people to orient to a changing world. There are still tons of people who grow up thinking they can't afford to go to college! Shocking but true; anyone can afford to go to college these days if they're reasonably qualified, with so many colleges meeting full financial need.

54 posted on 07/06/2003 8:42:00 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (I barbeque with Sweet Baby Ray's)
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To: nmh
What's the problem?

If you are as familiar with my posts as you claim to be, you'd know that the Zoellick/Bush Administration's assault on American Middle Class prosperity extends far beyond just the textile industry.

55 posted on 07/06/2003 8:45:04 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
North Carolina is getting whacked hard. In addition to textiles, the furniture industry is getting knocked for a loop. I imagine their high-tech Research Triangle is taking it on the chin as well.

Sanjay and Apu say Research Triangle is doing just fine. Plenty of money to send home to Delhi. Thank you...come again.

56 posted on 07/06/2003 8:48:25 PM PDT by ctonious
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To: DAnconia55; DraftAshcroft2004
You should SEE all those Chinese houses made out of American Dollars. Green huts. Everywhere!
And Chinese peasants LOVE to heat their homes and cook their meals by burning good ol' American Greenbacks.

US net debtor gap grew to record $2.387 Trillion in '02

Foreign nations use the cash obtained from our Trade Defict to purchase U.S. Treasury bills issued to finance our budget deficit and National Debt.

For FY 2002, interest paid on the National Debt was $332 billion, or roughly 18% of federal revenue for that year.

"Think what you do when you run into debt;
you give another power over your liberty."

-- Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)


57 posted on 07/06/2003 8:52:28 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Didn't understand what you read, did ya?

And Ben was talking about Personal debt.

58 posted on 07/06/2003 8:55:05 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: squidly
It's not just low-wage textile workers in the Carolinas. It's also high-wage computer programmers in California seeing their jobs outsourced to Asia (India).

What jobs and what tax base will the U.S. have in 20 years if every kind of work from textile mills to programming goes to Asia?

59 posted on 07/06/2003 8:58:47 PM PDT by DraftAshcroft2004
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To: JohnnyZ
The economic downturn on the textile industry could be a hinderance for the NC GOP in its plans to oust both Gov. Easley and Sen. Edwards from public office next year. After all, aren't the textile mill towns along I-85 GOP strongholds?
60 posted on 07/06/2003 9:00:43 PM PDT by Kuksool (Help wage political genocide against the RATS)
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