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American Indian group complains scientific review biased -2001 Klamath Basin irrigation shut-off
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Posted on 07/05/2003 10:19:43 PM PDT by chance33_98
American Indian group complains scientific review biased
GRANTS PASS - An American Indian rights group is complaining that the National Academy of Sciences committee that reviewed the 2001 Klamath Basin irrigation shut-off was biased in favor of the economic interests of farmers.
John Echohawk is executive director of the Native American Rights Fund in Boulder, Colorado. He is asking the academy to dissolve the committee that found no scientific justification for shutting off irrigation in favor of fish. Echohawk wants the academy to convene a new committee.
Echohawk says the Klamath Tribes once harvested tens of thousands of pounds of suckers. But he says the Indians have not been able to take more than two a year for ceremonial purposes the past 15 years.
Interior Secretary Gale Norton contracted the academy to review the decisions of federal scientists setting minimum water levels for endangered suckers.
When drought struck the basin in 2001, the U-S Bureau of Reclamation shut off irrigation to most of the 200-thousand acres of the Klamath Reclamation Project to meet the water levels for fish set under the Endangered Species Act.
Echohawk says the bureau used the interim report as the foundation of its ten-year plan for water allocations in the basin, and that after full irrigation deliveries were given farmers in 2002, thousands of salmon died in the lower Klamath River.
Scientists for the California Department of Fish and Game blame the fish kill on low water in the river.
TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: Idaho; US: Montana; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: environment; indians; klamath
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To: Darksheare
anyone have a better photo?
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posted on
07/07/2003 12:35:36 PM PDT
by
adam_az
To: adam_az
Nope.
But they are one ugly and largely inedible fish.
Give me a pike, pickerel, any bass, trout or sunny anyday..
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posted on
07/07/2003 1:23:16 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
("Here I come to ... Whatever" -Mighty Mouse on Prozac.)
To: countrydummy
I enjoy a good catfish too, the best I have had are the walking catfish in our pond back in Thailand, and another variety that has a marbled spotting on the skin. Had to teach the wife that fried is the best, even better than the local soups they usually make with fish
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posted on
07/07/2003 3:51:10 PM PDT
by
rontorr
(It's just my opinion, but I am RIGHT!)
To: Darksheare
in Thailand the local suckerfish are called airplane fish, you see them in a lot of tropical fish aquariams being called Algae Eaters, we were really hungry once and tried to eat some, cause they were the only thing we caught, and didn't have any food yet that day, hardly any meat, and tasted like mud. we through it out, and went out and found some leaves and wild beans to eat in the forest.
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posted on
07/07/2003 3:56:58 PM PDT
by
rontorr
(It's just my opinion, but I am RIGHT!)
To: rontorr
Yeah.
I'd eat mallow roots before tryin gto eat a suckerfish.
That, and I'd drink hemlock pine tea.
(Tastes disgusting, but high in vitamin c.)
They are nasty little fish, and all this whining they're doing out there in defense of this pest fish is insane.
Especially since they do hurt native trout populations in some places.
Like here in New York.
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:02:54 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
(The Borg, the IRS of Star Trek.)
To: rontorr
as well as no native Oregonian would even consider eating a catfish
Do West Coast catfish taste different than East Coast catfish or are they just considered too easy a catch?
To: Welsh Rabbit
not speaking for myself, but a lot of guys I know consider the trout and Salmon the only fish worth catching and eating. I myself prefer only one type of fish, the kind that swiim in the water :)
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:32:04 PM PDT
by
rontorr
(It's just my opinion, but I am RIGHT!)
To: rontorr
swim
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:33:09 PM PDT
by
rontorr
(It's just my opinion, but I am RIGHT!)
To: rontorr
I've encountered that attitude here (I somewhat recently moved to Northern Virginia). A couple of months ago, I went fishing for stripped bass in the Potomac for my first time. We were bringing in some of the biggest catfish I'd ever seen, but my friends, who were native to the area, wouldn't even consider keeping any of them.
When I was in my early teens I lived in Washington state and did some fishing. Now that I think about, I don't recall catfish ever being mentioned once.
To: farmfriend
To: furnitureman
Thanks for linking the history. A man who does not know history is bound to repeat it.
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posted on
07/07/2003 8:46:37 PM PDT
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: adam_az
I have a better photo but do not know how to post it
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posted on
07/08/2003 12:00:53 AM PDT
by
marsh2
To: chance33_98
Echohawk says the Klamath Tribes once harvested tens of thousands of pounds of suckers. But he says the Indians have not been able to take more than two a year for ceremonial purposes the past 15 years. Right, Chief. It's the farmers' fault you can't catch the fish. How long ago was the sucker fish put on the ESA protected list? What? Fifteen years? Whoa!!
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:43:38 AM PDT
by
hattend
To: marsh2
I have a better photo but do not know how to post it < IMG SRC ="URL for picture">
Do not put the space between < and IMG.
Simple.
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:48:02 AM PDT
by
hattend
To: hattend
not so simple. There is no URL for the picture. It resides on my computer. Thanks anyway
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posted on
07/08/2003 4:49:01 PM PDT
by
marsh2
To: marsh2
Go to
Fotki.com, create an account, upload your picture and then link to your fotki account. It's free!
Or send it to me and I'll post it to bump the thread again.
You have Freepmail. :-)
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posted on
07/08/2003 5:05:18 PM PDT
by
hattend
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