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'Luftwaffe' legend to be erased from Schroeder's plane -
The Sunday Telegraph - UK ^
| July 6, 2003
| Michael Leidig in Munich
Posted on 07/05/2003 9:27:31 PM PDT by UnklGene
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posted on
07/05/2003 9:27:31 PM PDT
by
UnklGene
To: UnklGene
Awwww...isn't this special? I feel so much better now.
Idiots.
To: UnklGene
The word "Luftwaffe", which means air force, How about "Luftheiss," for hot air?
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posted on
07/05/2003 9:34:36 PM PDT
by
UnklGene
To: UnklGene
Ha ha ha ha.
Yep. Changing the name will make it all better.
Idiots.
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posted on
07/05/2003 9:37:08 PM PDT
by
B Knotts
To: UnklGene
The German government moves at the same pace as ours.
Luftwaffe
To: UnklGene
Do you mean heisse Luft (hot air) or Lufthitze(air heat)?
To: UnklGene
The redesign and repainting operation will cost more than £5 million. That must be a heck of a paint job.
Earl Scheib will do it for $199.95.
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posted on
07/05/2003 9:50:58 PM PDT
by
B Knotts
To: B Knotts; All
Personally, I think this kind of stuff is ridiculous. My husband is into building model airplanes, especially combat aircraft, and these days it's hard to find models of WWII German aircraft with swastikas! I mean, it's HISTORY, for Pete's sake! Politically-correct censorship, aka rewriting and sanitizing history, is a disservice to everyone.
BMW built the engines for the fabled, feared, and respected Focke-Wulf 190 fighter plane, and Daimler-Benz built most of the engines for the equally legendary Messerschmitt 109, which was probably the most famous German figher of all. (Rolls-Royce built the Merlin engines that powered the lovely, incredible Spitfires, and Packard-built Merlins, licensed via RR, powered the great P-51 Musgangs). Heck, BMW started out as a builder of airplane motors -- to this day, its logo is of a rotating airplane propeller. For that matter, so is the logo of Mitsubishi, which built the engines that went into the Japanese Zeros. So what's the deal -- are BMW, Daimler-Benz, and Mitsubishi all supposed to pretend this didn't happen, and is the world supposed to pretend that the planes they helped power, especially the Me 109 and the FW 190, were anything other than great feats of engineering and design?
Furthermore, RR, BMW, and DB are among the companies that pushed the ol' piston engine to its ultimate limits, and the constant refining and improving they did on those old figher-plane engines has found its way to the cars we drive today, making them safer, faster, and more economical. We have all benefitted from it. The fact that BMW and DB engines went into Nazi planes, doesn't negate the facts that they were great engines to be proud of.
Denying history doesn't do anyone any good. Changing the name on a plane, removing swastikas from historical replicas, is stupid. Denial is destructive. Embrace the truth of the past, abhor what was evil in it, and celebrate and use for future good and the development of morale and national pride, the positive things that came out of it. That's my philosophy.
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posted on
07/05/2003 10:35:49 PM PDT
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, and success. Amen.)
To: UnklGene
Good God, what a bunch of pussys. We must have kicked their asses a little too hard.
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posted on
07/05/2003 10:56:13 PM PDT
by
Husker24
To: Finny
A hearty bump to you!
Comment #11 Removed by Moderator
To: knighthawk; rmlew; Yehuda
So, does this mean that Schröder will stop wearing Nazi uniforms? Will they finally stop singing Deutschland Uber Alles? Will they change to Kumbaya as their national anthem?
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posted on
07/05/2003 11:41:44 PM PDT
by
Cacique
To: StarfireIV
Ah but the world really misses Messerknifesmittedge
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posted on
07/06/2003 2:35:08 AM PDT
by
illumini
(AMERICA. Love her or leave her!)
To: Finny
Denying history doesn't do anyone any good. Changing the name on a plane, removing swastikas from historical replicas, is stupid. Denial is destructive...In more ways than one. Changing this and removing that only makes the (model) plane more valueable/desirable - after all, forbidden fruit is always the sweetest. If they had just left the plane as-is no one (no mentally healthy person, I mean) would have given it another thought.
After all, just try and get a copy of the chldren's book "Little Black Sambo". See how much they want for it, and are getting it! Tell you're husband to take care of his pre-PC, WWII German planes. He may have a little gold mine there.
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posted on
07/06/2003 6:04:34 AM PDT
by
yankeedame
("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
To: UnklGene
This is silly. Why not just rename the whole country?
To: Finny
And remember that huge numbers of American companies built war-related items and weaponry(including Singer Sewing Machine Machine Company...they built M-1 Garand rifles)during WW2.....The Germans are living in a terrible world where history right or wrong is being erased due to PC.
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posted on
07/06/2003 8:36:58 AM PDT
by
Gringo1
(It is raining again here in Georgia...please make it stop.)
To: UnklGene
Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister, was forced to express regret for remarks in which he compared a German MEP with a Nazi concentration camp guard (Sgt. Schultz), A FICTITIOUS Nazi concentration guard! He was talking about a television character!
(I'd like to know the exact quote anyway)
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posted on
07/06/2003 8:47:37 AM PDT
by
peteram
To: Gringo1
And remember that huge numbers of American companies built war-related items and weaponry(including Singer Sewing Machine Machine Company...they built M-1 Garand rifles)during WW2.....The Germans are living in a terrible world where history right or wrong is being erased due to PC. IBM built hundreds of thousands of M-1 carbines during the war, but that has been excised from their official history. But I have an as-built unmodified IBM carbine to show those who believe that IBM would never have actually built weapons.
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posted on
07/06/2003 9:07:46 AM PDT
by
300winmag
(All that is gold does not glitter.)
To: StarfireIV
Yes and yes.
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posted on
07/06/2003 10:40:19 AM PDT
by
UnklGene
To: Gringo1
And remember that huge numbers of American companies built war-related items and weaponry(including Singer Sewing Machine Machine Company...they built M-1 Garand rifles)during WW2.....The Germans are living in a terrible world where history right or wrong is being erased due to PC. I didn't know that about Singer Sewing Machines! Interesting! or would that be, "verrrry eeenterestink!"
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posted on
07/06/2003 10:41:59 AM PDT
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, and success. Amen.)
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