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To: Alamo-Girl
The problem of consciousness leads...not only to the last frontier, mostly unexplored, of science, but also to perhaps the most important frontier for mankind in the 21st century....

Oh, A-G, I do agree this is so (this statement from Kafatos & Draganescu). Either we get clear on the problem of consciousness in all its ramifications, or we can just kiss the "human project" good-bye.

The materialists out there -- who really do prefer absurdity to the clear, God-given light of reason any day of the week -- have already laid plans to reduce us/replace us with digital machines. [Lurkers please do try to envision this statement as metaphoric, not as evidence of paranoia.] Indeed, in terms of thinking and feeling, they have so far achieved considerable success in converting humans now alive into virtual machines.

And while they're at it, they also plan to deify Utility -- a project that seems to be achieving a certain critical mass in certain sectors of the West by now.

All of which to be conducted under the auspices of a tiny minority of "progressively committed" intellectuals with an ingrained "grudge" against nature and the general "unforgivingness" of Truth, against its seemingly intractible bias in one direction only: Upward, into the Light of God's grace and spirit. This is a special caste of self-selected and self-appointed "high priests" who desire to rule over the rest of us, "for our own good."

Are we -- the "rest of us" -- really prepared to accept life under such a regime? How's that for a little late-night "sci-fi," A-G!!!

Good night, and God bless!

694 posted on 07/15/2003 8:21:26 PM PDT by betty boop (We can have either human dignity or unfettered liberty, but not both. -- Dean Clancy)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for your excellent post! The points you raised got me interested in doing some research, and now I'm off on the memetics tangent (LOL!)

Are we -- the "rest of us" -- really prepared to accept life under such a regime? How's that for a little late-night "sci-fi," A-G!!!

I am certainly not willing to accept such a regime.

Sleep well and may God abundantly bless you! Hugs!!!

695 posted on 07/15/2003 9:26:19 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; cornelis; yall
...intractible bias in one direction only...

Exactly. Zealous macroevolutionists find themselves talking about the miraculous designs of evolution! The constraints of intention (including the dutiful but sly Mr. Parsimony) are there to behold, by theologians, philosophers, and scentists alike.

"Makes one go 'hmm....'"

(But, you don't suppose a plum is happy to be eaten by a good person, do you? Is that why it gushes?)

696 posted on 07/16/2003 3:10:34 PM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love." | No I don't look anything like her but I do like to hear "Unspun w/ AnnaZ")
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To: Alamo-Girl; unspun; Phaedrus; logos; Jeff Head
Hello!!!

Can someone please explain to me what's going on at FR tonight?

I logged in per usual, and was presented with a new User Agreement to ratify. Which I did without hesitation.

Then I found that I couldn't use my screen name anymore, because it's "already been taken" -- that is, betty boop, which I've used exclusively, consistently since March 1998. I had to provide a new screen name, just to get this far and talk to you: "metaxy."

I am really upset about this. Can anyone explain to me what purpose this serves? I have some unanswered FReeper correspondence in private mail that I can't get to anymore, that I'd hoped to reply to this evening.

Not to mention that there was a thriving thread on the subject of Judicial Activism, and I owed about a half-dozen replies there.

Even worse, I would hate to think that I could not contact you guys in the future, if FR has "gone Hollywood" on us....

Would you kindly share your private e-mail addie with me? Mine is: jdrew10535@aol.com.

God bless you all --

Jean
698 posted on 07/18/2003 5:55:50 PM PDT by metaxy
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