[DPB101]

Rats claim it was all about idealism and fighting Nazis. But they got American troops killed. John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr, Chapter One: Venona and the Cold War:

William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft . . .

Perl was a City College graduate. As were Julius Rosenberg, Albert Weisbord and dozens, if not thousands, of other Soviet spies and supporters. Hillary's mentor, Communist Party lawyer Robert Treuhaft ,assumed he would attend City College but was surprised to win admission to Harvard. The public college provided the techinal knowledge needed for communists to get into a position to steal secrets. Harvard provided the legal talent to defend them and to propagandize without being indicted.

Btw...didn't Soviet pilots fly for North Korea? Think I saw something on the History Channel about it.

[HISSKGB]

City College in New York was a thriving nest of espionage agents. Their proficiency in stealing technology for the Soviets caused death and destruction in Korea and elsewhere.
They have no shame. Today their children spin the lie that they were harassed by a witch hunt and that those who tried to ferret these weasels out were hysterical paranoids

[Zeroisanumber]

Soviet pilots trained a number of NK pilots, but mostly they were instructors who stayed out of combat. It's very possible (and I think that there are a few documented cases), that from time to time they came into contact with US fighters.

[MEG33]

I atarted reading the Weisborg.org site.His prediction about the Peoples United States of Europe gave me pause.I think it was under the dissolution of NATO piece written in 1977.

[MEG33]

Yes .The top Russian ace in the Korean War shot down 21 planes.The US and USSR kept this secret according to an article I just googled.

[liberalnot]

no doubt that these some of these people were dedicated, communist party members, out to destroy the united states.

why the los angeles times still celebrates their deaths with long, pleasant obituaries is beyond me.

one of their recent obits had the fellow who died remark, to the effect, that the communist party members were the only ones for humanism. so he joined. the context was, well, it was just a light-hearted, normal thing to do.

[CyberAnt]

"didn't Soviet pilots fly for North Korea?"

I think you're right!

[mathluv]

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