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Trenton strategy tipped to British (WASHINGTON HAD SPY IN HIS CAMP)
The Washington Times ^
| July 3, 2003
| Associated Press
Posted on 07/03/2003 3:52:03 PM PDT by aristeides
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:05:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Through a spy, the British were tipped off that George Washington would be making his famous Christmas night crossing of the Delaware, but the information went unheeded, according to newly reviewed papers of the British commander.
The papers from the archive of Gen. James Grant were found in the tower of his Ballindalloch Castle, northwest of Aberdeen, Scotland.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: New Jersey; US: Pennsylvania; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 17761225; battleoftrenton; british; cornwallis; english; georgewashington; hessians; history; kinggeorgeiii; newjersey; nj; redcoats; revolution; revolutionarywar; spy; thegeneral; therevolution; trenton; washington
I wonder why the Hessians didn't act on this intelligence.
To: swarthyguy; Shermy; jamaksin
Anybody know whether Benedict Arnold was at Valley Forge?
To: aristeides
Yes he did. He spent the winter of 1777-1778 with the army at Valley Forge.
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posted on
07/03/2003 4:05:28 PM PDT
by
Dog
To: Dog
Hmmm. Thanks.
To: aristeides
Lowrie is to purchase Rum to the amount of twenty thousand Dollars at Philadelphia with Continental money & to store it there till the (money?) arrives."Someone could research this purchase I bet..
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posted on
07/03/2003 4:08:53 PM PDT
by
Dog
To: aristeides
All we would need to know is the names of Washington's staff...a purchase of $20,000.00 of Rum had to be recorded in the US Armies records...they even had bean counters back then.
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posted on
07/03/2003 4:11:47 PM PDT
by
Dog
To: Dog
I suppose a Wharton in Philadelphia would be related to whoever the Business School is named after.
To: aristeides
The intelligence was passed to Col. Rall in writing -- but in English. Rall only spoke German, and there was nobody there to translate.
Thanks to a Christmas party, the entire garrison was drunk on Jersey Lightning, as applejack was called in that time. Rall was playing cards when the paper was handed to him. Drunk and having higher priorities (his bet on this hand), Rall looked at the paper, saw it was in English and crumpled it up, putting it in his pocket.
When Rall, dying, was laid out in the church in Trenton, the paper was found in his pocket, obviously unread.
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posted on
07/03/2003 4:14:04 PM PDT
by
Publius
To: aristeides
Benedict Arnold was still a patriot then.
He saved the Revolution at Saratoga.
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posted on
07/03/2003 6:14:18 PM PDT
by
rmlew
("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
To: rmlew; Dog
I stand corrected. My chronology was confused. Washington was headquartered in Philadelphia the winter of 1776-77. Battle of Trenton was Dec. 26, 1776. Saratoga, as you point out, was Oct. 1777. Valley Forge winter was 1777-78. So we still don't know who the spy was. I wonder if there's any way to find out.
To: aristeides
Many a fine old colonial family kept a foot in both camps, with Tory and Patriot relatives operating simultaneously. Oddly enough, sometimes they were the same people.
The war lasted 14 years and was a fluid situation. Think Vietnam. Many of the ARVN officers had a brother in the Viet Cong, or a cousin in the NVA. Through networks upon networks, more often than not, we and the enemy received our orders, and sometimes their orders, at the same time. There were very few secret secrets.
A former VC, now resident in CA, said to me, "It was like pro football, we always knew exactly what play you were going to run, the only question was if we were good enough to stop it!"
To: Publius
This is what I was taught in my History classes, except Rall did find out what it said as he lay dying. DOH!!!!
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posted on
07/03/2003 11:06:48 PM PDT
by
neb52
To: aristeides
Yes, winter of 1777-78.
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posted on
07/04/2003 10:24:30 AM PDT
by
jamaksin
To: SAMWolf
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posted on
07/09/2003 7:01:43 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
To: Coleus
Thanks for the bump Coleus.
Imagine how history would have changed if the Hessians had acted on the tip.
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posted on
07/09/2003 7:09:17 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(Call out the vice squad! Someone's mounting a disk drive!)
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