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Is sugar making us fat?
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| July 1, 2003
| Lance Gay and Lee Bowman Scripps
Posted on 07/02/2003 4:56:13 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Congrats!
You have it right, and you are walking the walk!
I'm trying to do the same thing, but I can't get my wife on board, and she gets offended when I pick and choose what I will eat of the dinner she prepares.
Nevertheless, I will persevere and prevail, and in the end, she will be pleased.
61
posted on
07/03/2003 1:37:58 AM PDT
by
John Valentine
(Laid Back, paid back, off-line and out of the country....)
To: McCool
Whew, talk about oversimplification.....
62
posted on
07/03/2003 1:39:01 AM PDT
by
John Valentine
(Laid Back, paid back, off-line and out of the country....)
To: Ronin
On the other hand, from experience I can tell you that all dessert sweets served in New Zealand are too sweet for Americans to stomach.
I would have harldly thought it possible to increase the sugar in recepies from that used by the Americans, but the Kiwis have done it.
63
posted on
07/03/2003 1:41:12 AM PDT
by
John Valentine
(Laid Back, paid back, off-line and out of the country....)
To: John Valentine
I cringe just thinking about that....
64
posted on
07/03/2003 1:45:03 AM PDT
by
Ronin
To: John Valentine
I get the same treatment from my wife. She insists on fixing the same kind of foods that made me (and her) fat. Just last night, I grilled a turkey thigh and hot peppers while she threw frozen pizzas for herself and the kids in the oven. Most of our weekday meals are made from frozen, processed foods, loaded down with high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated trans-fats, and a list of ingredients you need a Phd in chemistry to pronounce properly. That's got to change and for me, it changed three months ago.
Ironically, my wife still thinks a plate of pasta is far healthier for you than a steak and that a stack of pancakes is much less fattening than eggs and bacon. Thus, we are going to be on each others nerves for a while longer. Once I lose the rest of the weight and keep it off, perhaps then, I'll convince her.
65
posted on
07/03/2003 6:31:06 AM PDT
by
SamAdams76
(Back in boot camp! 256 (-44))
To: SamAdams76
Nutrition experts have known for years that excess carbs are metabolized and stored as fat. Yet the American people were told that it is fat that makes us fat, not excessive carbohydrates. The people listened, and they got fatter. And the FDA is still blaming fat and McDonald's! Diabetics are given this information, then told to eat between 6 and 11 servings of complex carbohydrates per day in addition to the carbs in fruit and vegetables. Then the "experts" and your doctor have a hissy fit because you are overweight. I am thinking very seriously about cutting way back on my carb intake. Giving up ice cream is going to be harder than quiting a two pack a day cigarette habit. Then, I at least had a patch!
To: Dont Mention the War
Baloney.
To: caisson71
If you want to live in a fantasy world, go right ahead. I couldn't care less.
To: Dont Mention the War
Good. Fantasy comes in many misinformed "feelings".
To: kaktuskid
The three reasons why we are fat today...
1. Corn syrup in everything
2. Hydrogenated fats
3. White carbs...flour,white bread You got it. You could add #4, the government-recommended "food pyramid."
70
posted on
07/03/2003 10:44:02 AM PDT
by
Aquinasfan
(Low carb for life.)
To: Wiser now; Xenalyte
Nutrition experts have known for years that excess carbs are metabolized and stored as fat. Yet the American people were told that it is fat that makes us fat, not excessive carbohydrates. The people listened, and they got fatter.They still are. Look at posts 51 and 67-69.
It's amazing how people here will treat skeptically everything they read, hear and see from the "mainstream" media when it comes to politics, but consider these same known-liar reporters to be demigods on any non-political subject. "Well, duh, everything I've ever read about fats and carbs has said..." Yeah, you go right on listening to the 21-year-old "expert" with the big breasts on your local news, morons.
GOD, what is wrong with this world any more...
To: SamAdams76
Fifteen pounds lighter here due to cutting back on carbs. Especially the nasty ones like potatoes and pasta and white bread. Pilates has also helped.
And I love Michelob Ultra! 8 * )
72
posted on
07/03/2003 10:57:43 AM PDT
by
dubyagee
To: kaktuskid
Thank you! Right on target.
Toss in a extremely sedentary lifestyle and you have it...
I don't professionally support the Atkins diet...
Waaaay too many nutritional deficits...
and the fact that the nutritional research is still limited.
Personally I have seen bad things happen to patients (that no one has researched yet, but it is coming). Like more than one instance of malignant hypertension and rapidly growing tumors....lost a student last year...
Understand,
Remember, ANYONE can say, do and write what they want in the field of nutrition...
Even if they know next to nothing. While you would never ask a mechanic to do brain surgery, folks seem fine with having their diets written by folks of the same ilk.
73
posted on
07/03/2003 10:59:03 AM PDT
by
najida
(What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
To: Dont Mention the War
Fat is a necessary nutrient, but not in excess...
Excess fat will go the way of all excess calories, into storage...
Hydrogenated trans-fats will clog arteries, as well as make you fatter too.
74
posted on
07/03/2003 11:00:47 AM PDT
by
najida
(What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
To: nutmeg
read later bump
75
posted on
07/03/2003 11:01:37 AM PDT
by
nutmeg
To: Wiser now
As one of those nutrition professionals,
I have spent most of my life dealing with a public that couldn't understand "PORTION SIZE"....
Those 6-11 servings of complex carbs (we are talkin' high fiber here too) translated into 24-48, zero fiber in reality....
I have the diet histories to prove it....
76
posted on
07/03/2003 11:05:44 AM PDT
by
najida
(What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
To: najida; kaktuskid
Remember, ANYONE can say, do and write what they want in the field of nutrition... Even if they know next to nothing. While you would never ask a mechanic to do brain surgery, folks seem fine with having their diets written by folks of the same ilk.Are you actually attempting to imply that Robert Atkins was just some random guy off the street? He was a real physician with an MD from Cornell.
To: SamAdams76
There is a great article in Health this month that has "diet makeovers"....
Your wife sounds like the holdtheveges-vegetarian.
78
posted on
07/03/2003 11:09:02 AM PDT
by
najida
(What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
To: Dont Mention the War
Yep,
he was a 'medical doctor' whose field of experitize was in medicine...
He had, at Cornell, the basic nutrition course that all pre-med students get..
Probably taught by someone like me...
I am NOT implying he didn't do further research...
but it still doesn't make him a nutrition expert...
To the professionals, he is a joke...
Sorry folks.
79
posted on
07/03/2003 11:11:56 AM PDT
by
najida
(What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
To: Shooter 2.5
Anyone on the Atkin's diet should watch their cholestral. Watch bad cholesterol go down and good cholesterol go up, you mean?
Two studies from the New England Journal of Medicine here.
Next paradigm to shift: evolution.
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