[RosieCotton]

Per my friend, there are too many men interested in the frosting but not the cake.

Good way of putting it. Hard for the normal conservative types to get noticed.

On the other hand, I'm not that interested in the type that go after the frosting. So I guess I don't mind so much. ;)

[Valin]

There's an old movie "Shenandoah" where Jimmy Stewart is talking to a young man who wants to marry his daughter.
JS Do you like her?
YM Oh yes I'm maddly in love with her, there's nothing I wouldn't do for her, I can't live without her.
JS That's not the what I asked you, I want to know do you like her?