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Playboy and the (Homo) Sexual Revolution
savethemales.ca ^ | 3 June 2003 | Henry Makow Ph.D.

Posted on 07/01/2003 7:19:53 PM PDT by Lorianne

He is fastidious about his appearance, his home and his possessions. He wants as much sex as possible and chooses sexual partners mostly on the basis of appearance. He is self-absorbed and doesn't want emotional involvement or commitment. He thinks a woman would stifle him and children would be a burden.

Does this sound like many gays? It is also the masculine ideal purveyed by Playboy magazine to men since the 1950's.

The essence of manhood is to lead and support a family. But in 1972, 3 out of 4 male college students got their ideas about masculinity from Playboy, at an incalculable price to themselves, women, children and society.

The similarity between the Playboy and homosexual ideal is no coincidence. "The Kinsey Report" (1948) shaped current mainstream attitudes to sex. It championed unfettered sexual expression and became the manifesto of the counterculture. It inspired Hugh Hefner to start Playboy in 1953.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: henrymakow; kinsey; males; marriage; playboy; sex; sexualrevolution; skinheadsonfr
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Well for once he is not railing against "evil feminists". Nice change of pace Henry.
1 posted on 07/01/2003 7:19:53 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
He wants as much sex as possible and chooses sexual partners mostly on the basis of appearance. He is self-absorbed and doesn't want emotional involvement or commitment.

These men also tend to be predatory and liars. It takes experience and maturity to recognize them but those are painfully developed qualities. I wish these guys were the exception rather than the rule. (yes, yes, I know there are equally predatory women out there)

2 posted on 07/01/2003 7:36:59 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Lorianne
He is fastidious about his appearance, his home and his possessions. He wants as much sex as possible and chooses sexual partners mostly on the basis of appearance. He is self-absorbed and doesn't want emotional involvement or commitment. He thinks a woman would stifle him and children would be a burden.

Does this sound like many gays?


Actually, I don't know a lot of gay men like this. Most of the ones I know concentrate on their appearance only slightly more than heterosexuals, don't seem any different than heterosexuals regarding their homes and posessions, they're no more self-absorbed than my heterosexual acquantiences, they don't seek sex as much as possible (with some exceptions, just the same with my heterosexual acquantiences), and they don't think that women would be a "burden" -- they're just not attracted to women.
3 posted on 07/01/2003 7:38:23 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Lorianne
All I can think of with Playboy is the movie Beverly Hills Cop II when Axel Foley chases the bad guys to the mansion and they all get tossed out.

"Everybody! Party's over. Max "fouled" it up for everybody so let's just go home".

4 posted on 07/01/2003 7:41:05 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Liberals - "The suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked")
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To: Dimensio
Though sodomite's and normal people's parades seem to differ a bit...
5 posted on 07/01/2003 7:45:53 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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joesnuffy is a master of understatement. High fives!
6 posted on 07/01/2003 7:56:36 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Lorianne
I should have known it was you posting this drivel.

We are PROGRAMED to appreciate a woman's apperance, it does not make one self absorbed to prefer a healthy, pretty, woman, because it implies fertility.

The essence of manhood (real, not imposed by society) is to spread our seed as far and wide as possible. It takes a lot of cultural training to stifle that urge in men. Finally; taking pride in one's apperance is not a sign of a gay man. In the military culture that I am from, it is a sign of respect for others and one's self.

Women can blame men's new reluctance on marriage on Feminism and the cultural impact it has had on the Court system in America.

I know from your many anti-male posts that you probably will not agree, but facts are facts.

7 posted on 07/01/2003 8:03:53 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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Interesting comparison. Rings true.
8 posted on 07/01/2003 8:08:17 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Bush/Cheney in '04 and Tommy Daschole out the door)
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To: joesnuffy
Well, that's another thing. I don't know any gay people who have marched in parades of any kind.
9 posted on 07/01/2003 8:08:32 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Lorianne
He wants as much sex as possible and chooses sexual partners mostly on the basis of appearance. He is self-absorbed and doesn't want emotional involvement or commitment. He thinks a woman would stifle him and children would be a burden.

Does this sound like many gays? It is also the masculine ideal purveyed by Playboy magazine to men since the 1950's.

Oh, Crap.
It sounds like every mans ideal from the beginning of time until we all had to play "Alan Alda" sensitive in the '70s.
Heffner just happened to be the one who created a magazine to cash in on it, he invented nothing else.

So9

10 posted on 07/01/2003 8:17:43 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (The voices tell me to stay home and clean the guns.)
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Wouldn't men have to actually have read the articles in order to pick up these "ideals"?
11 posted on 07/01/2003 8:17:49 PM PDT by Randjuke
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No joke. Yesterday, I found out that somebody does read Playboy for just the articles. Somebody yesterday dumped a jacket and a Playboy in my trash can in front of my house.

I only knew it was Playboy, because the only printed text was the word Playboy and the bunny symbol, and the rest of the pages were white, and in braille. I don't know why somebody decided to dump their braille copies of playboy in my trash can, but there ya go. I almost wish I could read braille so I could figure out what is in there.

I.E... Debbie is 24, likes poetry, and you can't see her.

12 posted on 07/01/2003 8:20:17 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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the playboy empire abandoned men long ago. It is not about the "philosophy" espoused by hef. Its a PC wonderland for women. Its like beauty pagents which are reduced to "scholarship" competitions. NO THANKS. (not even the Man show is manly)
13 posted on 07/01/2003 8:21:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Lorianne
But in 1972, 3 out of 4 male college students got
 their ideas about masculinity from Playboy, at an
 incalculable price to themselves, women, children and society.


Oh, BS.  I may have got my fantasies from Playboy,
but reality and the luck of the draw are what you get
in real life.  This bit of blaming everyone else for
individual choice is just a immature step away from
blaming our parents for all of our flaws.  Grow up.
14 posted on 07/01/2003 8:25:40 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: dogbyte12
heh, heh. That's funny.
15 posted on 07/01/2003 8:27:59 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: dogbyte12
LOL
16 posted on 07/01/2003 8:32:04 PM PDT by wafflehouse (the hell you say!)
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To: Pukin Dog
I agree this is drivel. All of the good professor's rantings that I've read are. That is my point in posting it.

You are jumping to conclusions not in evidence.
17 posted on 07/01/2003 8:32:12 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Then I stand corrected. This time.
18 posted on 07/01/2003 8:38:23 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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Well for once he is not railing against "evil feminists". Nice change of pace Henry.

"evil feminists" - everyone knows they're evil. For varity, how'bout "Foul Feminists" or "Frightful Feminists", or "Lorianne" - now that's scary.

19 posted on 07/01/2003 8:40:53 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: Lorianne
How many gay men read Playboy?
20 posted on 07/01/2003 8:53:34 PM PDT by MattAMiller (Down with the Mullahs! Peace, freedom, and prosperity for Iran.)
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